It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Taking the Crowd Out of Firing 155mm Artillery.

page: 1
4
<<   2 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 01:31 PM
link   
Traditionally an artillery crew requires anywhere from eight to twelve men per artillery piece, depending on the size to the weapon.

A two man crew fires up to ten 155mm artillery shells per minute, to a distance of 31 miles?

In any weather? Even 35 below zero? And neither man has to get out of the cab?

Impossible, you say!

Say again...and meet the Archer.

And now you can see why our technically advanced military requires less personel to do more of a job.

www.youtube.com...

A wheeled, self-propelled 155 mm L52 automatic howitzer has been developed, based on the successful towed FH77 B.The new FH 77 BW L52 howitzer will have state-of-the-art tactical and technical performance




posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 01:39 PM
link   
reply to post by tonycliffs
 


Here you go.




posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 01:44 PM
link   
reply to post by tonycliffs
 


Great..


Now all you need is some-one to fire it at.

Cosmic..



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 01:44 PM
link   
Yep.. We've come a long way since I was in the Army in 92. (13B10)
OoooSHAhhhh!



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 01:45 PM
link   
reply to post by tonycliffs
 

They use the same "less personnel" argument to justify the drones. Was it not for the fact that those drones cost between several and several hundred million to buy and then require sometimes a 16 man team to operate effectively....well, it's all just pointless, destructive, expensive hardware making cruddy corps like BAE richer by the minute. We don't need more, we need less!



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 02:22 PM
link   

Originally posted by Cosmic4life
reply to post by tonycliffs
 


Great..


Now all you need is some-one to fire it at.

Cosmic..


The Archer is being tested in the Scandanavian snow countries in very, very cold climates.

Ostensibly the Archer can (and will) be used in the Antartic.

Neither soldier has to get out of the warm cab. This baby drives through some very formidable terrain.

Takes 30 seconds to set up. Fires about eight round a minute. Takes 30 seconds to take down and drive to another location.



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 02:24 PM
link   

Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by tonycliffs
 

They use the same "less personnel" argument to justify the drones. Was it not for the fact that those drones cost between several and several hundred million to buy and then require sometimes a 16 man team to operate effectively....well, it's all just pointless, destructive, expensive hardware making cruddy corps like BAE richer by the minute. We don't need more, we need less!


The unmanned X-47B is designed to replace the B-2 Bomber in the future.



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 02:25 PM
link   

Originally posted by theRhenn
Yep.. We've come a long way since I was in the Army in 92. (13B10)
OoooSHAhhhh!


Today's infantryman carries a personal defense weapon that can convert in minutes from 5.56 to 6.8 to .50 in a matter of minutes.



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 02:26 PM
link   

Originally posted by DrumsRfun
reply to post by tonycliffs
 


Here you go.



These babies are impressive and nearly as portable as a .30 caliber machine gun....with a lot more kick.

I will really be impressed if private security firms have these Archers.
edit on 30-1-2012 by tonycliffs because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 03:17 PM
link   

Originally posted by tonycliffs

Originally posted by theRhenn
Yep.. We've come a long way since I was in the Army in 92. (13B10)
OoooSHAhhhh!


Today's infantryman carries a personal defense weapon that can convert in minutes from 5.56 to 6.8 to .50 in a matter of minutes.


We carried .50cals on a tripod which we usually dropped in the front and off to the side of the howetzer. We used to joke about the size of the rounds.. "If we run out of artillary shells and our .50cal jams.. Just pick up a round and stab the s.o.b.!"

Fun times!



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 03:52 PM
link   

Originally posted by theRhenn

Originally posted by tonycliffs

Originally posted by theRhenn
Yep.. We've come a long way since I was in the Army in 92. (13B10)
OoooSHAhhhh!


Today's infantryman carries a personal defense weapon that can convert in minutes from 5.56 to 6.8 to .50 in a matter of minutes.


We carried .50cals on a tripod which we usually dropped in the front and off to the side of the howetzer. We used to joke about the size of the rounds.. "If we run out of artillary shells and our .50cal jams.. Just pick up a round and stab the s.o.b.!"

Fun times!



Makes one wonder how a bunch of uneducated insurgents so effectively figured out how to use artillery shells without the canons (IEDs), and we're too bloody civilized to stoop to their level?

Anyway, what could be more frightening than mounting a bayonet onto a Ma Deuce, and do a bayonet charge with rounds blazing? Something like out of 'Full Metal Jacket.'

That scene would make an insurgent say, "Those Americans are too crazy for me to mess with." Which would be a good attitude to intill into those who would otherwise think ill of us.



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 03:55 PM
link   
Orrrrr....put a bayonet on a six round grenade launcher to have some real fun.


olive-drab.com...



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 04:51 PM
link   
reply to post by tonycliffs
 


I must say, that scenerio gets a chuckle from me every time I think of it.



Good thread brother! Brings back some old memories of being out in the field for 30 days at a time, looking for anything and everything to humor yourself to pass the time. Yet, I always though.. Ya know.. That could really happen. Imagine the hero stories then! lol

No matter what our government makes us do, I still love the hell out of our millitary men and women. There is still a strong pride within. "Ma Deuce" and "Deuce and a half" haven't heard that one in a loooong time.



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 05:05 PM
link   

Originally posted by tonycliffs

Originally posted by Cosmic4life
reply to post by tonycliffs
 


Great..


Now all you need is some-one to fire it at.

Cosmic..


The Archer is being tested in the Scandanavian snow countries in very, very cold climates.

Ostensibly the Archer can (and will) be used in the Antartic.

Neither soldier has to get out of the warm cab. This baby drives through some very formidable terrain.

Takes 30 seconds to set up. Fires about eight round a minute. Takes 30 seconds to take down and drive to another location.


I'm sure the Penguins have petitioned the UN for a cease fire...


Cosmic..



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 06:18 PM
link   

Originally posted by theRhenn
reply to post by tonycliffs
 


I must say, that scenerio gets a chuckle from me every time I think of it.



Good thread brother! Brings back some old memories of being out in the field for 30 days at a time, looking for anything and everything to humor yourself to pass the time. Yet, I always though.. Ya know.. That could really happen. Imagine the hero stories then! lol

No matter what our government makes us do, I still love the hell out of our millitary men and women. There is still a strong pride within. "Ma Deuce" and "Deuce and a half" haven't heard that one in a loooong time.



Simply put: What's the spirit of the bayonet!! To kill!!

Not long ago I went to a birthday party attended by a motorcycle club comprised of ex-Marines. We had more fun drinking beer while insulting each other with ribald military style...ah...insults.

People at the party who did not understand, just stood there watching us jaws agap, thinking that at any moment a brawl was going to break out between us. They couldn't understand that the more we insulted each other, the more it was like participating in a sacred brotherhood.

Anyway, it's unique to see how far technology has gone for our troops. You just sit in a cab like you're at a drive-in movie, push a button or two and another 155 mm round goes screaming out to say 'hello' to the enemy.



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 06:20 PM
link   

Originally posted by Cosmic4life

Originally posted by tonycliffs

Originally posted by Cosmic4life
reply to post by tonycliffs
 



I'm sure the Penguins have petitioned the UN for a cease fire...


Cosmic..




You must be referring to the penguins in the movie 'Happy Feet.'



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 11:08 AM
link   
I think this is a technological masterwork, and very impressive for all that. But only if you are prepared to meet a man on his own turf face to face, and hand to hand. All this long distance stuff is just going to make us fat and lazy as a species. If we want to really gain something as a species from all our warmongering, we ought to revert to axes, spears, swords and sheilds, rather than PRETENDING to be men.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 09:34 PM
link   

Originally posted by TrueBrit
I think this is a technological masterwork, and very impressive for all that. But only if you are prepared to meet a man on his own turf face to face, and hand to hand. All this long distance stuff is just going to make us fat and lazy as a species. If we want to really gain something as a species from all our warmongering, we ought to revert to axes, spears, swords and sheilds, rather than PRETENDING to be men.


Perchance, have you been watching the Starz cable series of 'Spartacus?'

If you haven't, you should.

It's just starting its third season: Spartacus 'Vengeance.'

The first season was: Spartacus "Sand and Blood.'

After which the lead actor, Andy Whitfield, died young and rather unexpectedly..

The second season was: Spartacus 'Gods of the Arena.' A prequel while they searched for a new lead actor to play Spartacus.

Heck oif a historical rendition.
edit on 1-2-2012 by tonycliffs because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 11:49 PM
link   
I take your FH 77 BW L52 and raise to a panzerhaubittze 2000





posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 02:27 AM
link   
reply to post by tonycliffs
 


I heard it was some dreadful cancer that did for him. The whole time he was filming for Blood and Sand, the directors were like cramming him with muscle ripping chems because he was getting so thin from the cancer, that without them, he just couldnt maintain the "warrior" physique for the cameras.

I just think that as interesting as this warmachine is, the industry that builds these things is supporting a divergance away from our roots as the most dangerous animals on the face of our planet, and replacing that history, that legacy, with techniques and wartech which do all the real work for us!



new topics

top topics



 
4
<<   2 >>

log in

join