Hidden Cell Towers. The GWEN System, and Frequencies On Humans.

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posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 12:27 PM
I guess it starts when your a kid and you found a way to shock people by running on the carpet. Or by rubbing a balloon on your head, you can make your hair stand up. At some point even as kids we are aware they we have energy.

I haven't been in school for a while, so I cant really tell you if they are teaching this to kids today, but the curiosity is amazing when you first realize.

Now for many of us here on ATS, we know about ELF waves, cell phone dangers, and even frequency weapons that the military has, to control crowds, and if you dig a bit deeper, there are weapons such as voice to skull, and even weapons for assassination which can make you have a heart attack from a distance.

Ok, I just read the above, and realized that maybe this isn't so well know so I will add a little about each that I have mentioned.

ELF waves, here is a PDF That explains it pretty much.
Possible effects of Electromagnetic Fields (EMF) on Human Health

Voice to Skull.
Army Yanks ‘Voice-To-Skull Devices’ Site

The Army’s very strange webpage on "Voice-to-Skull" weapons has been removed. It was strange it was there, and it’s even stranger it’s gone. If you Google it, you’ll see the entry for "Voice-to-Skull device," but, if you click on the website, the link is dead. The entry, still available on the Federation of American Scientists‘ website reads: "Nonlethal weapon which includes (1) a neuro-electromagnetic device which uses microwave transmission of sound into the skull of persons or animals by way of pulse-modulated microwave radiation; and (2) a silent sound device which can transmit sound into the skull of person or animals."


Ok, now we are kind of caught up. There is a fear of what happens if you are living close by a cell tower, and its effects on your body. There are an massive amount of these towers all over the world. Many dont know that they are there because they have been camouflaged. To look like trees, or even in flag poles, or church steeples.

Here are a few examples of "hidden" towers.

Here is a link of many different types that are hidden, their locations, and latitude and longitude for them so you can see them yourself if you choose to check.

Lets say your thinking but NRE, I dont see anything like that in my area, how else can I check?
Here ya go! Here you can add your City, and Zip, and get the locations of all of them by you.

'Ok thats pretty weird that they would have to hide them. Well what is the GWEN system anyway?

The Ground-Wave Emergency Network (GWEN) System

The Ground-Wave Emergency Network (GWEN) is a communications system that the military is in the process of constructing as we speak. It operates in the very-low-frequency (VLF) range, with transmissions between 150 and 175 kHz. This range was selected because its signals travel by means of waves that have a tendency to hug the ground rather than by radiating into the atmosphere. This signal drops off sharply with distance - a single GWEN stations transmits in a 360 circle to a distance of 250 to 300 miles. The entire GWEN system consists of approximately 300 such stations spread across the United States, each with a tower 300-500 feet high. The stations are from 200 to 250 miles apart, so that a signal can go from coast to coast from one station to another. When the system is completed around 1993, the entire civilian population of the United States will be exposed to the GWEN Transmissions. Read Appendix 4 and then re-read this section.


Though there is no taking away the fact that these towers exist, whether you believe its so that our technology is advancing and we are in need of this. Or whether you believe that this is another way for TPTB to control our minds through frequency waves. Or even if you believe that HAARP has a part to play, hey we can even get into BlueBeam, knowing your surroundings and the things that can affect you down the road is always good to know.

Peace, NRE.

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 12:31 PM
Just saw a news report on BBC, that they can use an ultra sonic pulse to make you infertile.

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 12:43 PM
In southern CA I see a lot of towers like that. We had a few in Michigan but many more here.

I just assumed it was the environmentalist wackos at work...

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 12:46 PM
As I do work for a Wireless Telecom company, I can offer some input on the subject.

I am not an RF engineer, so I cannot comment about the health risks of living in close proximity to a cell site. However, from going to town hall meetings/zoning hearings etc. as a Site Acquisition Specialist, I can say that there are precautions to limit the amount of exposure. The only time you really risk any kind of dangerous exposure, is if you are standing in front of the antennae while they are powered up. If you are standing even 10 feet away, you are safe. A lot of crewmen have to wear RF detectors when working on an active site.

As far as the stealthing, this is more due to the town's requirements. A lot of citizens don't want to look at a lot of towers in their neighborhood. While that's fine and well, we need the towers to accommodate the need for the signals. Sometimes, the zoning board will not approve a design UNLESS it is either: Stealthable (monopines, church steeples/crosses/etc, rocks on gold courses, and sometimes faux chimneys.) or completely hidden. This isn't so much to HIDE it from the public in a sinister way, as it is meant to hide from visual eyesores
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Speaking of zoning boards, you also have to deal with Historic lands. Sometimes, your ideal location for a site, is in the middle of a historic district, or a zoning district that doesn't allow telecommunications equipment. For that reason, some carriers are forced to stealth install. This isn't the preferred method, as stealthing can be damn expensive. Even turning a monopole to a monopine can cost thousands and thousands of dollars.
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posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 12:52 PM
Cell towers are dressed up for aesthetic purposes. You don't really think they look like real trees do you?

The article about GWEN is incorrect.
First, 150 - 175 kHz is not VLF, it is low frequency.

Second, the GWEN system was decommissioned in 1999. Some of the stations and equipment have been repurposed as part of the DGPS navigation system. The transmitters operate at 300 khz. The transmitters are of quite low power.

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posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 12:53 PM
reply to post by Daemonicon

Speaking of zoning boards, you also have to deal with Historic lands. Sometimes, your ideal location for a site, is in the middle of a historic district, or a zoning district that doesn't allow telecommunications equipment. For that reason, some carriers are forced to stealth install. This isn't the preferred method, as stealthing can be damn expensive.

I understand this, but as you can see these hidden towers are not in heavily populated areas, these are in the middle of no where, but they still seem to be hidden, or disguised, and as you just mentioned costs thousands of dollars to do.

Why would a company or state committee need to pay extra camouflage for something not really seen anyway?

Peace, NRE.

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 12:55 PM
Op, these are not meant to be "hidden" "secret" towers. They lease the property and based on property owners concerns they make them look a bit less obvious. This is proof that there are people out there searching, striving to find a conspiracy in everything.

I don't know that I want to live on this planet anymore.

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 12:58 PM
The sheer number of cell towers I've seen thrown up in recent years far exceeds the number of new customers or the need for additional coverage areas. I've seen some that are less than a mile apart.

I fear no good will come of this either way: through excess EM radiation or through more nefarious uses that we can only dream of.
Given the sterling record of the Federal government I tend to think in terms of worst case scenarios when it comes to issues like this. They have proven themselves devious and untrustworthy time and again.
They're a blight on the landscape at a minimum and the means of our enslavement or capitulation on the other end of scale.
I would be interested to know more of the possibilities from someone more adept at science then myself.
S&F for you NRE

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 01:01 PM
reply to post by NoRegretsEver

Just because a place is 'off the beaten path' a bit, does not relieve itself from local zoning ordinances. It is the zoning boards ultimate decision. Of course, the landowner has input, and the landowner can say "I don't care what it looks like, I just want the extra income", and that's fine from a LL perspective, but not from a town/state perspective.

I'm not saying that there COULDN'T be a conspiracy here, I'm just saying that the reasoning for stealth installations are flawed in these explanations. As someone who works in the field, I know some of this information to be glaringly wrong. Again, my skillset does not allow me to comment much on the RF side of things, but rather the zoning side/LL side of the stealthing issue.

A town I did work with recently, Cumberland, Rhode Island, has this in their ordinances. This is probably one of the more relaxed ones, but it does mention stealthing when possible.

"(e) Development Standards

(1) Whether erected on an existing building or erected as a separate structure, the tower shall be integrated through location and design to be compatible with the existing characteristics of the site to the extent practical.

(4) Removal of on-site vegetation and changes to the existing topography shall be minimized

(6) Appropriate screening, including the use of trees and other vegetation, shall be installed at all tower sites to screen views from adjacent properties and streets

(7) Towers shall be neutral in appearance, and related structures shall blend in with the surrounding environment through the use of appropriate design, materials and colors."

Source: www.cumberlandri.org...
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posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 01:09 PM
Yes it is said that the GWEN systems were stopped in 1999, but they converted them to GPS instead.
New Life for Old Transmitters: Converting GWEN to NDGPS

The recent conversion of two Ground Wave Emergency Network (GWEN) sites in Annapolis and Hagerstown, Md., to Nationwide Differential Global Positioning System (NDGPS) broadcast stations is the latest chapter in the emerging NDGPS.
In a nutshell, this nationwide system of 300-foot- (91-meter-) high broadcast towers is being created to improve the accuracy of the positioning information obtained via radio signals emitted by the Global Positioning System (GPS) satellites traveling in orbit around the Earth.


There was no way that they built these places and just discontinued them to just let them rot.

Nationwide Differential GPS System (NDGPS)

NDGPS is a ground-based augmentation system that provides increased accuracy and integrity of GPS information to users on U.S. land and waterways. The system consists of the Maritime Differential GPS System operated by the U.S. Coast Guard and an inland component funded by the Department of Transportation. NDGPS is built to international standards, and similar systems have been implemented by 50 countries around the world. Modernization efforts include the High Accuracy NDGPS (HA-NDGPS) system, currently under development, to enhance the performance and provide 10-15 centimeter accuracy with integrity throughout the coverage area.


Peace, NRE.

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posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 01:11 PM
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Yes. I said that.
They transmit at around 300 kHz. That is not VLF.
The transmitters have less power than your local FM radio station.

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 02:24 PM
This thread wasn't solely about the hidden towers, but also about the fear and anxiety that many share about what they are there for, and their affects on our bodies, and mostly our minds.

So I did a bit more searching and here is what else I have found, and provided for those that are curious.

Evaluating Compliance with FCC Guidelines for Human Exposure to
Radiofrequency Electromagnetic Fields

Evaluating Compliance with FCC Guidelines for Human Exposure to Radiofrequency Electromagnetic Fields

And for those that smell something fishy about all of this. With the fear of RFID chips, and how they study the brain more efficiently.
What They Are and How They Are Used. Mediaeko Investigative Reporting Group 1996 Reprint Radio Implants and Remote-Controlled Humans.

Doctors in Sweden began placing brain transmitters in the heads of anesthetized patients without the persons’ knowledge in about 1960. The insertion was conducted through the nostrils and took only a couple of minutes to perform.
Implanted devices can remain in a person’s head for life. The energy to activate the implants is transmitted by way of radio waves. Professor José Delgado wrote about the technology in Physical Control of the Mind in 1969.


Seriously the amount of devices that are out there already and those that are being modified is something that we should all be aware of. Not because the boogey-man is coming, but knowing where technology lies today, and who and what corporations are trying to patent them should be of some concern for us.

Most of these patents came out 20 or more years ago. Even if some were not passed, its mind blowing to know what capabilities are out there. People that try to patent these things have creators, scientists, medical corporations etc,. helping to fund these.

Electronic surveillance and identification

An electronic article surveillance and identification system employing a transceiver (10,11) for broadcasting an interrogation signal into a zone to track the location and movement therein of inventory, merchandise, vehicles, animals, people and objects carrying passive (unpowered) transponder tags (12) adapted to receive the interrogation signal, process the signal in an encoded surface acoustic wave device (15) having a predetermined pattern of reflection groove or grating transducers (30-39, 40-72) and echo an encoded response signal to the transceiver.

There are literally hundreds of these patents out there, just scroll down.

BTW, I would like to add that many of these are out there already, and can be our GPS systems, newer cellular technology etc,. Though I am sure that large companies dont have the blueprints to their most valuable devices just easily looked up on the internet, and neither would the government, or military.

Peace, NRE.

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 02:31 PM
While looking up some of the terms that are used about some of this technology, I have bumped into a few here on ATS that I would like to share.

This one is actually by AboveTopSecret.com in 2004.

The report below was retrieved from NASA's on-line technical document archive. The information itself dates from the 1980s and details testing which was carried out using low-power microwave pulses on rats. The testing was intended to lead to a form of psychological warfare


Peace, NRE.

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 02:42 PM
wariscrime link
Some info on something called silent spread sound spectrum. There are many links to info about microchips, EMF weaponization, microchip implants, and GWEN towers. NRE has covered the GWEN towers very well, so no need for me to chime in.
I just posted this on another thread, but there was a suggestion before the holidays that there be a forum for mind control, and I, for one, second the idea. These threads pop up over and over, much of the same information being covered, Not, mind you, that I think this is a bad idea, as I believe it incredibly important that this information gets out there. I do not believe there is much to debunk here, either, as it has been admitted by the military, itself, that weaponized EMF was used in Iraq early on.

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 02:50 PM
Don't know if this will help in your determination on if these are hazardous, but here is the spec sheet for one of the more popular antennae in the New England area. Again, don't know if this adds anything, but figured it couldn't hurt.


APX16DWV-16DWVS Antenna

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 02:54 PM

EMF stands for Electromagnetic fields, which are often called EMFs, invisible electrical and magnetic
forces. EMFs are a type of radiation that takes the form of waves.
Natural EMFs - The earth produces an electromagnetic field (EMF), and so does the human body. In
fact, scientific research has demonstrated that every cell in your body may have its own EMF, helping
to regulate important functions and keep you healthy. Natural EMFs or ELF’s (extremely low
frequencies) are low in intensity; for example, a healthy human body resonates with the earth's
magnetic field at around 10 hertz. This connects us to the collective field of consciousness of the
planet itself , so that we are one with our planet, in fact there is no separation within the
consciousness field that the planet and humans share, when it is not disrupted.
Artificial EMFs - Human technologies – TV, cell phones, microwaves, high voltage wires, and phone
and communication masts, all create powerful EMFs. These strong EMFs have been shown to disturb
the human body’s natural energetic field. We are exposed to 100 million times greater artificial EMF
radiation than our grandparents were, and that exposure grows each year. This is creating an artificial
matrix or field of energy which humans are aligning with rather than the natural field of the planet, and
thus are not only damaging their overall health , they are disconnecting themselves from the natural
occurring reality on the earth. Is this why humans are feeling disconnected, and then are able to
destroy and harm the planet, as they do not feel a part of the consciousness field.


Dr Adey demonstrated how a 147-megahertz (MHz) field, which at tissue level had an intensity of 0.8 milliwatts per square centimetre, caused an efflux or release of calcium ions from the irradiated brain tissue. This response only occurred when the ELF modulation of the microwave carrier-wave had an amplitude modulated at 6-20 hertz (Hz). The maximum stimulation of the neurones took place at 16 Hz, but to either side of this frequency-range parameter there was no effect.8 [1996 Nexus] R

I think with research, Phage, you may find the energy output required for effect is fairly low....

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Your first link is broken but never mind, it reads pretty silly.

This connects us to the collective field of consciousness of the planet itself , so that we are one with our planet, in fact there is no separation within the consciousness field that the planet and humans share, when it is not disrupted.

May the force be with you.

With further research you may find that the power output is less than you may understand.
Your second link is talking about much higher frequencies than the DGPS system uses. If you had bothered to see the link I posted you would have found that the field density of the DGPS signal is many orders of magnitude less (thousands of times less) than 0.8 milliwatts, unless perhaps you are standing next to the tower. As I said, your local FM radio station puts out more power.
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posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Thank you Daemonicon! I, too, work as a site acq. specialist for a major telecommunications company - and while reading that I had to smile - it's not a covert conspiracy that they are "hidden"...it's due to keep a tower in compliance with aesthetics either according the the local municipality, county and/or SHPO.

posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 04:11 PM

Secondly, the police have been granted the exclusive use of the 450 MHz microwave frequency range. This is exactly the frequency used by Dr Ross Adey, the CIA mind control expert, in his experiments on behavioural modification. It seems the police have the exclusive use of this mind control frequency and a vast array of antennae to broadcast this frequency all over the country. Very useful for mass mind control in times of emergency. Adey found that by using 0.75mW/cm2 intensity of pulse modulated microwave at a frequency of 450 MHz, it was discovered that an ELF modulation could be used to control all aspects of human behaviour. The Sussex police headquarters is connected to CCTV, closed circuit television cameras throughout the town. Some of these cameras have microwave telemetry devices that could easily be used to broadcast this frequency. The large antennae that bracket the town could also be used. MICROWAVE MIND CONTROL by Tim Rifat

By use of my microwave detector, I have found that mobile phones of the newer type, give off a pulse modulated microwave signal of around 0.75mW/cm2 at the earpiece. This may be coincidence, but it is exactly the intensity required form behavioural control as found by Dr Ross Adey, the pioneer of microwave mind control. So in theory, an ELF signal could be added to the microwave network to feed a precise behavioural pattern into every mobile phone user in the UK. If their were widespread riots, the ability to broadcast behavioural stimuli to mollify all the mobile phone users in the country would prove useful. Since mobile phone users are generally middle class, it means authority has a useful method of controlling the behaviour of the key voters. Microwave carrier beams are perfect for transmitting the excitation potential of docility to the phone user to keep them servile in times of trouble. When no ELF signal is broadcast the phone acts in a completely different manner on behaviour in humans. In this case the microwave phones causes the neurones to release calcium ions which makes the user tired irritable and when stresses likely to emotional outbursts such as road rage. MICROWAVE MIND CONTROL by Tim Rifat

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yes, you are correct on the further research, thanks. However, there are methods of propogation, resonance, amplification and masers, to consider, as well. I wouldn't think to start an argument with you, as you far exceed my feeble intellect, as has already been qualified for me today by another. And I am not being sarcastic. I intended a complement.
As to my first source, and the quote you provided you found silly, I would only say that the applications of hard science perhaps have more metaphysical implications than you might consider. And because you find one element of something rather silly, to dismiss the whole can be short sighted. This is a matter of logic only.
Along the lines of the specific quote from my source you found silly, I am citing a thread here on the boards which I found excellently supports and illustrates what that particular quote is talking about and the science behind the metaphysics of it. Hope you give it a read. Enjoy.link ATS thread
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posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 07:43 PM
I wanted to give this an evening bump

Lots of good info.

Peace, NRE.

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