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Originally posted by theubermensch
I saw our Defence Minister Stephen Smith's press conference on Sky News today. It seemed to be about nothing. He was talking about a review of our Military's ability to "meet emerging strategic challenges". Seems they are getting the taxpayer ready to increase our military budget.
I think this has alot to do with the fact that Obama was here recently telling us how lucky we are that he will be sending US marines to our soil in record numbers and we are strengthening our military ties. So we are obviously defending against the threat of China.
China is the reason we got through the 'global financial crisis' unscathed. China is the reason for our resources boom. China is Australia's future. Why should we risk our prosperity and the lives of our people for a bankrupt and desperate failure of a nation like the United States?
We are only a target because of America. We should be strengthening our military ties with China. It makes sense. We are the two powers in this region. Australia, China beats South Korea and Japan every time. Asia/Austalasia would be sewn up in the event of world war. Australia tips the scale bigtime. So why are we going to waste a massive amount of taxpayer dollars helping the bankrupt United States?? Its insane.
Instead of Marines we should offer China some land in Darwin for a military base and make sure they know that we are their friend and neighbour.Chinese immigrants are a large part of our population,the Chinese use our universities, they support our tourism industry,they invest here, thet create jobs here through mining, drilling, tourism,,,,, What the heck does the United States do for us? They make us a target. Not much else. We have no problem with them but they should keep their marines.
edit on 30-1-2012 by theubermensch because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by daaskapital
The Brisbane Line
"The concept of the Brisbane Line were reportedly devised by Lieutenant General Sir Iven Giffard Mackay, General Officer Commanding in Charge, Home Forces of Australia from 1941 to 1942. In a letter to the Leader of the Opposition, Mr Fadden in May 1943, Prime Minister John Curtin advised that after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Lieutenant General Iven Mackay, who had been appointed by the Menzies government, submitted a defence plan to the present Minister for the Army, Mr Forde, which related to the defence of Australia. This plan concentrated on the defence of the vital parts of Australia, involving holding what is known as the "Brisbane Line". The Government rejected the submission and took steps to defend the whole of Australia. Included in these steps were the recall of Sir Thomas Blamey from overseas to take the post of Commander-in-Chief in Australia and the recall of A.I.F. Divisions abroad, the appointment of General Douglas MacArthur as Commander-in-Chief of the Southwest Pacific Area and representations for the despatch of naval, land, and air forces to the SWPA, together with aircraft and other supplies for the equipment and expansions of the Australian forces"
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Originally posted by beezzer
This is just food for thought here. . . . .
But since China already owns the US, isn't it already like China being there anyway?
The June media release by the Defence Minister avoids naming China as a threat, as well. Instead, it uses neutral language to discuss the issues covered by the review. Those issues include:
the rise of the Asia-Pacific as a region of global strategic significance the rise of the Indian Ocean rim as a region of global strategic significance the growth of military power projection capabilities of countries in the Asia-Pacific the growing need for the provision of humanitarian assistance and disaster relief following extreme events in the Asia-Pacific region energy security and security issues associated with expanding offshore resource exploitation in our North West and Northern approaches.
Originally posted by beezzer
This is just food for thought here. . . . .
But since China already owns the US, isn't it already like China being there anyway?
Originally posted by theubermensch
We have such a massive area to defend. Its impossible to defend the whole continent really. I see no real sense in over extending ourselves. I would say let them come. Use the top half of the continent as a battle ground. Chose our battle field. Id like to see China try to invade us. They could blow the crap out us but no Australian sit back and allow an invasion. We would be tougher than Afghanistan to occupy. Tougher than Korea. Tougher than Vietnam. I think there is sense in a Brisbane line.We are already concentrated..
Originally posted by daaskapital
, but as you stated no Australia would sit back and let it happen, not at all. We would fight to the end.
Originally posted by DevilsApprentice
Originally posted by daaskapital
, but as you stated no Australia would sit back and let it happen, not at all. We would fight to the end.
LoL .. what the heck are people going to do mate , throw rocks ?
No weapons , No training , 90% of the population would either run or surrender .Any one who did stand and fight would be over run.
Too funny .
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edit on 30-1-2012 by DevilsApprentice because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by theubermensch
I live in central western NSW. Kids know how to shoot guns out here. I would like to see the current Australian Military to try to Occupy here. There would be malitia everywhere. You are a defeatist. And are you Australian? You would just bow down to the Chinese? You insult Australians by suggesting we would just submit. No little Chinese bastards are gonna Occupy Australia.
Originally posted by daaskapital
reply to post by DevilsApprentice
Well, hey, i would fight, regardless of training. Anything is better than nothing.
Originally posted by DevilsApprentice
Originally posted by daaskapital
reply to post by DevilsApprentice
Well, hey, i would fight, regardless of training. Anything is better than nothing.
Fired an Austeyr before ? know how to reload both rifle and mags ? got any weapon of your own at all ? ( guess not , because the government took most of those ) Martial Arts training ? Have you done any shooting at all ?
Anything mate , please give me something .
Originally posted by DevilsApprentice
Originally posted by theubermensch
I live in central western NSW. Kids know how to shoot guns out here. I would like to see the current Australian Military to try to Occupy here. There would be malitia everywhere. You are a defeatist. And are you Australian? You would just bow down to the Chinese? You insult Australians by suggesting we would just submit. No little Chinese bastards are gonna Occupy Australia.
. Kids with what weapons ? what ammo supply ? what communications ? what support ?
Militia ? what a #### joke . Do you really expect me to believe that you'll last more 2 seconds against an armed , trained and supported Professional Soldier ? If you saw 20 of these guys comming down the road you'd #.
Might be better if ya dropped the keyboard warrior talk mate , I keep spilling beer and dropping popcorn.
Sweet dreams kid.
Originally posted by DevilsApprentice
Originally posted by theubermensch
I live in central western NSW. Kids know how to shoot guns out here. I would like to see the current Australian Military to try to Occupy here. There would be malitia everywhere. You are a defeatist. And are you Australian? You would just bow down to the Chinese? You insult Australians by suggesting we would just submit. No little Chinese bastards are gonna Occupy Australia.
. Kids with what weapons ? what ammo supply ? what communications ? what support ?
Militia ? what a #### joke . Do you really expect me to believe that you'll last more 2 seconds against an armed , trained and supported Professional Soldier ? If you saw 20 of these guys comming down the road you'd #.
Might be better if ya dropped the keyboard warrior talk mate , I keep spilling beer and dropping popcorn.
Sweet dreams kid.
Originally posted by beezzer
This is just food for thought here. . . . .
But since China already owns the US, isn't it already like China being there anyway?
Originally posted by DevilsApprentice
Ya get a star for honesty.
Bvegas based , so if ya close and TSHTF , we'll die together . It won't come to that though unless some letters guys (CIAASIO) get us into trouble. China would rather buy than fight . Americans won't be in any position to help us out .