Australia's Military Alliance With United States Must End.

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posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by Observor
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But 95% of Australian Aborigines were not wiped out.

Now we are quibbling over percentages? I don't know what percentage were wiped out, but what exactly would be an "acceptable" percentage?

Look, The ordinary US citizen descends from the English as do us Australians. We come from the same motherland, who had a tendency to kill inhabitants of land.

I think the Americans have more diverse ancestry, as far as nationalities go, than Australians, but other than that I agree. And I am not an American.
I fail to see how America would have a more diverse ancestry. Please enlighten me. I am sure that both colonies had the colonists and convicts. Australia also had a massive influx of European settlers, namely Scots, Irish, English, French, Italian, Greek and much more.

However i feel that we are verging of the topic of this thread, as we should stick with the topic and try not to get embroiled in American and Australian ancestral history (The Americans won't accept it anyway, they believe they are descended from god, by the way in which they behave).




posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by Flighty
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Mate we all know America dropping the bomb is what made the Japs surrender.
You may call it sucking up, but I call it gratitude and giving credit where credit is due.



You have got to be #ing me? Are you joking?


Japan was going to surrender 2 days after the bomb was going to be dropped (from memory). The bombs did not need to be dropped, they were already defeated. Dropping the bombs was merely a way for America to flex it's muscles at the enemies. Look where that led the world - to the Cold War. Stop acting ignorant.



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by Flighty
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Mate we all know America dropping the bomb is what made the Japs surrender.
You may call it sucking up, but I call it gratitude and giving credit where credit is due.




Im sorry but just because the USA dropped a bomb and that it killed hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children doesnt make them our saviour. It just makes them mass murders.
So stick ya gratitude where the sun dont shine mate.

I bet you have a go at the nazis killing many jews, but when the USA commits genocide you accept it.
Talk about double standards.
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posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 08:11 AM
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I fail to see how America would have a more diverse ancestry. Please enlighten me. I am sure that both colonies had the colonists and convicts. Australia also had a massive influx of European settlers, namely Scots, Irish, English, French, Italian, Greek and much more.

However i feel that we are verging of the topic of this thread, as we should stick with the topic and try not to get embroiled in American and Australian ancestral history

Totally agree. May be we can take it up on a more relevant thread.

(The Americans won't accept it anyway, they believe they are descended from god, by the way in which they behave).

You mean, they have not descended from God?
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posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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You really do not know very much do you? You read snippets from the internet, then prop yourself up, fabricating intelligence.

The US is not, nor will be a "Greece"

There is such a staggering difference in the two, only a person completely ignorant of global finance could say something like that.

Australia was not invaded by Japan because......... Who cares why? We cant say for sure.. All we can say is, America was an ally that would have sent her men and women into harms way to protect your country!

All of you new age internet hippies drive me crazy. You have ZERO understanding of economics, yet you pick up flash words and opinion pieces, and call them facts...

You act as though America is the end all be all evil of the world. Don't you have elections? Politicians? They all make decisions based on your wants and needs? Do they always do exactly what you would like?

America is still economically strong.(in comparison) We only come across as weak because we set the bar so high for so long.



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 09:18 AM
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Are you kidding? Australia contributed less than 8K men to Vietnam... Are you confused, or simply making up facts as you go?



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 09:26 AM
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Japan never had any intentions of "conquering" Australia. They were already stretched to think to do that. They planed on securing new guinea, then using it as a staging point for air missions into Northern Australia.

BUT, if they weren't defeated by the US, who is to say that wouldn't have changed? If they were allowed to move troops and supplies freely, they would have eventually started working their way down Australia.



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by KillShotMi
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Are you kidding? Australia contributed less than 8K men to Vietnam... Are you confused, or simply making up facts as you go?

Why don't you pack your bags and go and get #ed you ungrateful bastard!


From the time of the arrival of the first members of the Team in 1962 almost 60,000 Australians, including ground troops and air force and navy personnel, served in Vietnam; 521 died as a result of the war and over 3,000 were wounded.


Quoted from the bloody Australian War Memorial!

www.awm.gov.au...



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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Awwww, I figured you out.. You just need a pat on the back. If you took all of your posts and put them in order and change the words "America" and "USA" for "Mommy" and "Daddy", it would all make sense.

Look, your past actions in these wars is appreciated by our Govt. Do you need more than that? 50% of Americans are too stupid to care about you or your country....



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 10:05 AM
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Still no reply for me...huh figures.



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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I wasn't at the end of the thread, checking to see if any of you "Go Australia" fan club had replied. I don't know you, or owe you anything. I was reading the thread and replying in fashion. The fact that you sit and expect a response in some sort of time frame, defines you...

I actually had Australia listed as a place I would love to visit... (except for all the animals and insects that can kill you) Seemed like a great place... a beautiful place.. Unfortunately a few ugly people, just made me decide against that. I don't want to go anywhere, where people hate me, just because of my Govt.s actions over the last 60 years.

Can you imagine? Such ignorance? Talking to individual folks, like they are the entire entity "America" ...

Rarely does something amaze me in this way.... Your country pride has spilith over and formed a puddle of moronic traits.

Oh, btw you were right.. It was 60K + by the end of the war... I was just quick to attempting to shoot down your ignorant pride, I sacrificed good fact checking to fill my pride. I can fix my problem...yet doubt yours is fixable.

Everyone is all over America for all of these wars... look at the big picture.. Look hard and open minded. MAYBE you'll see that it is all RELEVANT!!!

We took on the roll of a father figure. We helped where we could and started out trying to make the world a better place. NOBODY can deny this. Along the path, several different leaders and several different circumstances have put us in some pretty bad situations. Did the American people choose to go into Iraq? Not a single one of us voted on it. Have you ever tried to stop a 2K car rolling down a hill? The ball that is rolling is NOT IN OUR HANDS. we can do very little to stop this.


You can't get your population to stand up and stop the US base, yet you expect US to just "Stand up" and end all of this? I'll give you a hint... None of us can stop this. this is now a rolling freight train out of control! This is going to end in globalization or extinction.. period!



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by KillShotMi
reply to post by theubermensch
 


You really do not know very much do you? You read snippets from the internet, then prop yourself up, fabricating intelligence.

The US is not, nor will be a "Greece"

There is such a staggering difference in the two, only a person completely ignorant of global finance could say something like that.

Australia was not invaded by Japan because......... Who cares why? We cant say for sure.. All we can say is, America was an ally that would have sent her men and women into harms way to protect your country!

All of you new age internet hippies drive me crazy. You have ZERO understanding of economics, yet you pick up flash words and opinion pieces, and call them facts...

You act as though America is the end all be all evil of the world. Don't you have elections? Politicians? They all make decisions based on your wants and needs? Do they always do exactly what you would like?

America is still economically strong.(in comparison) We only come across as weak because we set the bar so high for so long.



Ha! You seem real intelligent.

So you dont see a problem with the fact that US National Debt exceeds your Gross Domestic Product??

You werent concerned when the US got slapped with the credit downgrade from Standards and Poors?

Australia has a better credit rating than the US and our dollar is worth more at US $1.0632.You like that?

You arent worried that your congress cannot agree on anything or even has any real ideas to fix your rising trillions National Debt?

You arent worried when you hear that US Post is pretty much Bankrupt?

What about the record numbers on food stamps? The unemployment figures?

And who is gonna save you? Your 'Super Commitee'?
Obama?
Romney?
Newt ?


Ignorance is bliss I guess but you should pay more attention.

articles.cnn.com...:OPINION

And you have alot in common with Greece. Like the whole fiscal gap thing. You really need to increase your gdp. Get to work.
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www.dailypaul.com...

www.cbc.ca...

www.tehrantimes.com...
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posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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Thank you for getting back to me


You were the ignorant one to post that Australia only had 8,000 soldiers over there. That my friend is clear ignorance.



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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Unfortunately a few ugly people, just made me decide against that. I don't want to go anywhere, where people hate me, just because of my Govt.s actions over the last 60 years.



Not the fault of Aussies.

You would not last here if you came because you need a thick skin.

Dont get personal.... ok?



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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you must understand that if you were not aligned with us and using our technology you would be reading this in Chinese



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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How about we watch how it all plays out. Lets see where we are a few years down the road, when someone reins in our spending. It will happen soon enough... We let the ship start leaking, I'll be damned if the American people will let it sink.

Don't let wishful thinking get you kiwi's all excited...

My uncle used to tell me stories about docking in Australia. The women would flock to the ports, basically begging American service men to have them. Apparently beating women was acceptable and a national past time for Aussies. He said the worst American man, treated women better than the Aussies.

I bet the 2500 boys and men at our new base will be very happy.

I figured I would admit my mistake and move on... Apparently admitting you were wrong, means nothing to an angry Aussie. I'm sorry you are so angry.. What ever you do, please don't take that anger out on your family.



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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Jesus Killshot, you sure spend a lot of time on the keyboard....

I'm Aussie and had the great chance to serve my nations Army, worked with you seppo bastards plenty of times. And from what I gathered most of em are just a bunch of thick gun bunnies, "can't spell "concrete" but can lift it for ya!".

Don't get me wrong, some of you blokes know your # when it comes to getting the job done in warfare, but perhaps the subtle approach our soldiers use towards the nations upon whom we occupy, is a little better than air-bombing potential targets from 4 clicks out, then high-fiving each other and doing the occasional yank "yahoo" or "get some!!!!"


Also, get your facts straight before you post them, my father served in Vietnam and worked with a lot of you blokes, had a lot of respect for some but none for many. Don't jump so far as to say we have no understanding of anything because we are Aussie, while you were sipping your mochafrappawhathe#achino and understanding your "economics" some of us here have planted our boots in places you could only dream of mate.

You seem to have a lot of animosity towards Australia mate, really, too much bubble wrap and cotton wool I reckon.



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by KillShotMi
reply to post by theubermensch
 


How about we watch how it all plays out. Lets see where we are a few years down the road, when someone reins in our spending. It will happen soon enough... We let the ship start leaking, I'll be damned if the American people will let it sink.

Don't let wishful thinking get you kiwi's all excited...

My uncle used to tell me stories about docking in Australia. The women would flock to the ports, basically begging American service men to have them. Apparently beating women was acceptable and a national past time for Aussies. He said the worst American man, treated women better than the Aussies.

I bet the 2500 boys and men at our new base will be very happy.

I figured I would admit my mistake and move on... Apparently admitting you were wrong, means nothing to an angry Aussie. I'm sorry you are so angry.. What ever you do, please don't take that anger out on your family.




www.youtube.com...

The Mexicans will start leaving soon. It wont be long.

What am I wrong about?

And dont believe everything you hear from your Uncle. We didnt make shows like The Honeymooners that made jokes about hitting women.

Ralph: "One of these days Alice...one of these days, bam, zoom, straight to the moon" Funny stuff. Beating women is all through you pop culture. .



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by KillShotMi
reply to post by theubermensch
 


How about we watch how it all plays out. Lets see where we are a few years down the road, when someone reins in our spending. It will happen soon enough... We let the ship start leaking, I'll be damned if the American people will let it sink.

Don't let wishful thinking get you kiwi's all excited...

My uncle used to tell me stories about docking in Australia. The women would flock to the ports, basically begging American service men to have them. Apparently beating women was acceptable and a national past time for Aussies. He said the worst American man, treated women better than the Aussies.

I bet the 2500 boys and men at our new base will be very happy.

I figured I would admit my mistake and move on... Apparently admitting you were wrong, means nothing to an angry Aussie. I'm sorry you are so angry.. What ever you do, please don't take that anger out on your family.




Yeah, all the lorrys and leftovers that swarm the yanks up at shoalwater bay, so funny seeing the young goofy lookin baby faced marine boys taking home some of the local slather.

Funny, considering last time you boys came over, most us Aussie digs stayed back and #ed the # out of your female officers


Also, good luck to the 2500 seppos, they have 1, 2 and 3RAR Aussie Infantry in the same place to keep their heads in line, and believe me mate, they will listen.

Oh, and last I looked, my missus doesn't get a belting from me, and I was bought up to respect women, so the whole beating women thing is just you being a dick.
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posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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Excellent, excellent observation





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