NSA Mind Control Technology and A.I. Revealed

Originally posted by King Seesar
I think somerandomuser did a great job of bringing this to the light i think we are just getting our signals crossed, the fact is part of this tech is a extension of a continued off shoot of MK-Ultra in terms of the study of the mind and mind control, now they did indeed went down a few different avenues to reach the point there at now.

Basing on what i read i would say that Microwave Auditory effect technology was the forerunner to electrical interface in terms of the advancement of mind manipulation, it seems what somerandomuser posted and is talking about is more advanced and more capable then the Microwave Auditory effect technology for certin purposes.

Anyway it's a good thread and i don't think it should be derailed the victims of these heinous weapons deserve better then that and the truth needs to get out there.

It seems to me that every avenue was explored, as each has its drawbacks. Radio is fine, but what if the frequencies are being monitored? A chemical, as in MKULTRA, may prove useful.

So, I'm of the opinion that multiple tracks were taken and each program delivered at least some useful material.

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A PHD would be providing you studies with abstracts, control groups, and results, not videos. Also, such a person would not reject all views other than his/her own.

This has become a didactic, non productive and frustrating exercise. My problem is I feel the OP is derailing his own, important info, how it progressed over the years, and what is truly happening. Also, as stated above, IMHO, the spreading of this disinfo about genetics and our being nothing but the sum of that is what will lead us increasingly into the justification, stated need, and use of this technology. In a backhanded way, OP is actually making an argument FOR it.

I have provided patents, information about laws against the use of, and scientific studies which are still very much a part of current science, only to be dismissed that our genetics are "hardware," that runs us, and I am engaged in disinformation and only providing "my beliefs," which are erroneous.

Just to show im a lovely guy. Why not check out the following. Perhaps on dvd or youtube.


Derren Brown: The Experiments (2011)
Derren Brown: The Experiments was announced on 4 October 2011 on his official blog. Described by Brown as a series of "ambitious sociological experiment, in which the unwitting subject is a single person, a crowd, or even an entire town". Brown mentions that 'Three of [the episodes] are relatively dark, looking into the darker side of human behaviour, and one of them is rather positive and jolly' on his blog.

The first episode, entitled "The Assassin", aired on 21 October at 9pm and consists of Brown successfully hypnotising an unwitting member of the public to 'assassinate' a celebrity revealed to be Stephen Fry. This technique was used as a comparison to theories regarding the assassination of Robert Kennedy by Sirhan Sirhan, who claims to have no memory of the event.

This is all very fascinating I'm sure, but it has nothing to do with this topic. This topic is a discussion on Deepthought's work, interfacing with the brain using ELF radio.

I found a good episode on Tesla. This is a scientific program, but there is a small section on ELF effecting the brain. Interestingly, this was broadcast in 1982:



I thought I should point out that the analysis of the Woodpecker signal as affecting the brain is disinformation.

Originally posted by somerandomuser

I thought I should point out that the analysis of the Woodpecker signal as affecting the brain is disinformation.

For those wondering where the disinformation occurs, its when the guy tells you that the signal is on brain wave frequencies and a simple jammer box will suppress it. Its just complete nonsense.

Woodpecker was broadcast on frequencies between 7-19MHz, with pulse repetition rates of 10Hz, 16Hz and 20Hz.

So, in the video the disinformation comes from noting the "pulse repetition rate", rather than the basic frequency of operation. The "pulse repetition rate" cannot effect the brain and it is on the wrong frequencies.

If the Woodpecker signal was broadcasting below 1KHz, then there would have been something to worry about.

No doubt, this episode's "specialist" was courtesy of UK Military Intelligence.

Originally posted by The X
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On the destruction of my soul, it happened.
The first place it experienced it i was living in a place called Tidworth in hampshire a large military base, some odd stuff has happened there with regards to the TR3-B and how military personnel react to it when it just appears from nowhere and stops in front of them.
A three man patrol, a corporal and two privates was told to do a B/S route march from tidworth to everleigh on salisbury plain, google for it i'm sure you could find it, and the TR3-B appeared and terrified them.
The fear response that is induced in one person is a feeling that the system has recorded in another person, the black government/system creating feelings of fear/terror/rage that it recorded and then re-induced in other people by means of this technology, is capable of recreating any mind state that it has recorded in anyone at anytime, it is used punitively, and i'm sure would be used to create a feeling of uneasiness or to make someone unsure of themselves, maybe even as a part of blue beam certain individuals will be targeted with the system to create panic reactions from seeing the screaming horrified people that are having an induced emotional moment, it feels real, some people are able to separate themselves from the feeling and they know it isnt them that is feeling this and can ignore it.
it can also be used to induce extraneous noise into your mind/body/system using microwaves and your skeleton as a transducer.

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it can also be used to induce extraneous noise into your mind/body/system using microwaves and your skeleton as a transducer.

Wrong technology completely. Such a system is not practical in an open air environment. It would need to keep a certain energy density at the target and anyone passing the beam would be fried.

So, its nonsense. The real technology is not a thermal effect, it is a radio interface using ELF.

Originally posted by tetra50
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Again, I find that comment revealing as to your perspective. I find it unfortunate you let no other scientific information in. We are not in the least, really, comparable to hardware. Hardware involves no complex chemical interactions. Did you read the link and info I provided for you, all based on hard science, about genetics and cellular structure--oversimplification in my description. Your perspective of hardware is much less science based, using words you have bandied about with me. Your comment strips nature of its complexity and wonderment, in the complexities of its workings which g way, way beyond straightforward hardware. If you were correct in your encapsulation of the role genetics play, every great artist and musician would have had children that achieved the same.

That's not entirely accurate. Offspring are the result of the union of two different genetic codes. Each introduces dominant and recessive genes to the mix. This complex interaction means that the base code for any child is substantially different from the parents. Furthermore, during development exposure to different things either strengthens or weakens particular synaptic connections. So much so, that the cerebral cortex thins in different ways, in different people.

In short, you lose the hardware you don't use very often at a very early age and your particular mix of genes dictates what circuits you do have.

Consciousness is not a software program. It is strictly hardware based and is limited by the hardware available to it. If you had watched one of the videos I posted, it shows a segment on Grand Master Chess players and shows that their brains are wired differently from birth.

Originally posted by tetra50
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And human behavior and solving conflicts would be as simple as running an update on hardware and configuring the appropriate software. Consciousness and sentience in an AI would have happened years before now...... I believe you have closed yourself to so much information that you begin to contradict your own presented viewpoint, as often happens to those who assume they now know all.

We already have sentient machines. But there is a difference between them and humans. You cannot "update" the human mind, as it is a product of neural circuitry. It is hardware only. We can of course learn new things, but certain efficient circuits (those that people are born with), do not exist in everyone.

We already have sentient machines.

Yes, I agreed to that long ago in this thread. I find no point to this, as I don't think you understand much of what I write, while telling me I understand nothing of what you write, or about this. Whatever. I think we have sentient computers long before you think we did. That is the obvious meaning of what I wrote that you have most recently responded to. The reason I am not happy about it, is that when you respond to what someone says in this way, it appears to keep putting that person in a position or mind-set that they are not really taking. A person in this thread actually thought I was disagreeing that this technology exists, that people suffer from it, that I was denying the information and didn't think it important. So, your responses to me misrepresent my position entirely, and you persist as though you have read nothing I wrote.

Originally posted by tetra50
I find no point to this, as I don't think you understand much of what I write, while telling me I understand nothing of what you write, or about this.

Instead of rant about it, why don't you take that time to explain your position better?

I think I will just leave it at what I have written and linked so far, which is a great deal. And I think I will let it stand with your assessment I have been ranting, because it is obviously not the case. I have written considered responses, linked information to support it, and remained quite civil. Your responses mischaracterize my stance, repeatedly. If you did not comprehend what I wrote, I can do nothing further. I have complemented your thread, your information, agreed with the topic, for the most part. If you think this was angry ranting, perhaps you should visit some more threads.

Originally posted by tetra50
Wow. I am not ranting...

Yet another rant...

Are you going to discuss the technology at all?

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I have. Thoroughly.
Second.

Originally posted by tetra50
reply to post by somerandomuser

 

I have. Thoroughly.
Second.

I just re-read your posts. You've talked a LOT around the subject, moving from technological singularity to topics of disinformation.

But you have not talked about Deepthought's work at all.

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There was nothing to talk about but to mostly agree with Deepthought, and you. Sad that you missed that. I then added more history, and other tech that was built upon to get us here. And disagreed only that it has been here longer, in use longer, and that more may be being done than you think. I provided some patent information to back that up. If such did not work, I doubt it would have been patented, much less then outlawed. I felt no need to discuss that which you characterized, and Deepthought, so very well.
I then went on to discuss consciousness, in a question you raised, yourself. I drew my own conclusions, and backed some of that with links and sources, as well. That's the overview. If you perceive what I've been saying as disinformation, lack of understanding and/or just not making sense, and then ranting.....well, I can do nothing more.

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When someone dismisses what you have provided a patent number for, that was then outlawed and calls it all disinformation, there is no point in further discussion. I sense you only want to show that you are righter, smarter, whatever, with someone who really basically agreed with you, but you did not agree with.
I am weary of the "disinformation," "ranting," characterizations you throw around easily. Very weary. Enjoy your thread and your time here. I feel bullied, and that isn't doing me or anyone else any good.

My last post is odd. I could swear i wrote something about the iDoser.

Is binaural technique used to record emotions/brainwaves, and then redistributed for comercial use?