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posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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Early on when this story first broke I wasn't shy at voicing my opinion that vaccines may be the cause but I always made it quite clear that it could be something else so your portrayal of my stance on the situation is unjust and pointless. It seems I may have upset you by pointing out your obvious agenda while you misrepresent facts. I'm able to admit my mistakes are you?

I have been following this story since the beginning but you keep mentioning things I have not heard of. Where did you find out that half these girls didn't get the shot? This tidbit information is new to me, perhaps I could have missed the announcement.

As I said, I'm open to possibilities but if you're going to claim things in the intention of proving me "wrong" at least back it up with some links. This could be something environmental from the school, but all the evidence so far goes against this theory.

If you're going to resort to using statements of mine from previous threads, at least portray them accurately otherwise you're just proving yourself to not have any credibility as I previously mentioned.




posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by antonia
 


Early on when this story first broke I wasn't shy at voicing my opinion that vaccines may be the cause but I always made it quite clear that it could be something else so your portrayal of my stance on the situation is unjust and pointless. It seems I may have upset you by pointing out your obvious agenda while you misrepresent facts. I'm able to admit my mistakes are you?

I have been following this story since the beginning but you keep mentioning things I have not heard of. Where did you find out that half these girls didn't get the shot? This tidbit information is new to me, perhaps I could have missed the announcement.

As I said, I'm open to possibilities but if you're going to claim things in the intention of proving me "wrong" at least back it up with some links. This could be something environmental from the school, but all the evidence so far goes against this theory.

If you're going to resort to using statements of mine from previous threads, at least portray them accurately otherwise you're just proving yourself to not have any credibility as I previously mentioned.


You are the one who came in the thread and proclaimed it was a distraction from Gardsial. Do I need to quote it for you?

www.huffingtonpost.com...


CNN reported that Gardasil has been ruled out as a cause for the mystery illness, as not all the girls have received the vaccine.


www.huffingtonpost.com...

I don't push shots and I don't care if you take them.
edit on 29-1-2012 by antonia because: opps


www.whec.com...
More kids are coming down with it and there is a boy included in the subset.
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posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 01:53 PM
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I haven't seen that CNN report that says the girls never received the vaccine until now so thanks for bringing it to my attention. I wonder if this came from state officials or the actual parents. I thought HIPPA wouldn't allow this type of information. Perhaps since it didn't name any of the girls individually they were allowed to release this information.

If it were some type of contaminant from the school grounds the possibilities could be endless, something would have had to cause this exposure. The accident that happened near the school decades ago would have made people sick before now unless something exposed this stuff from it's hiding area.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 01:55 PM
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I think it's more likely it's Strep. Certain forms of Strep can cause these symptoms and they do go away with antibiotic treatment. Lyme disease also causes these kinds of symptoms.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships




Additionally, One news article commented on the fact that Gas companies had
recently "fracked" in the close vicininty, just prior to the onset of the
illness.



I hadn't thought of this, but to me, this seems like the most plausible explanation...Thanks for the background check into the EPA report..A post not wasted.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 02:07 PM
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Whatever it is, I hope they get to the bottom of it. With 15 people sick there's a chance more students will start to show symptoms. Too bad they can't find the common denominator that connects all these kids. This story is very interesting and should be monitored.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 02:09 PM
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do any std's(new or old) present symptoms like that in those affected by them perhaps some new std has been created it is kinda weird that they are being soo clandestine about it but that might just be hippa



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 02:15 PM
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Latest news is claiming that Brockovich was ordered off the school grounds.



Representatives of environmental crusader Erin Brockovich and an accompanying group of reporters were ordered off the grounds of Le Roy Junior-Senior High School on Saturday in an episode connected to a cluster of students there with unusual neurological symptoms.

www.usatoday.com... eed%3A+usatoday-NewsTopStories+%28News+-+Top+Stories%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo

Originally, she and her team were to be allowed on the school grounds, but no testing was allowed...

Now they're saying that her being there with all the media attention was to disrupting to some
school band function...



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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thanks.

Objective investigation would require that development to be a possible factor.
It may or may not be the "catalyst" however true fact finding could not overlook it.

I could not help but notice that the article is from .au...which is Australia,
and no mention of that in the U.S. media. Conincidence?

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posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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The EPA Report provided on page 1 indicates the site may be contaminated with Cyanide and TCE.

The site was never effectively remediated. The soil was flushed with water sending the bulk of cyanide and TCE into the groundwater. The EPA has been addressing the groundwater contamination but has neglected the residual contamination remaining in the soil. They have addressed the TCE source, but they will never clean it up. TCE is a sinker and sinks into cracks and crevices in the bedrock.

*****The residual cyanide and TCE in the soil can cause the itching like bugs are crawling on them.

*****Chronic exposure causes neurological disorders.

Here is the MSDS for sodium cyanide.
www.sciencelab.com...

Toxicity to Animals:
Acute oral toxicity (LD50): 6.44 mg/kg [Rat]. Acute dermal toxicity (LD50): 10.4 mg/kg [Rabbit]. Chronic Effects on Humans: May cause damage to the following organs: skin, eyes, central nervous system (CNS).

Here is the MSDS for TCE
www.phy.duke.edu...

Chronic Effects on Humans:
CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: Classified + (PROVEN) by OSHA. Classified A5 (Not suspected for human.) by ACGIH. The substance is toxic to kidneys, the nervous system, liver, heart, upper respiratory tract.
Other Toxic Effects on Humans: Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant, permeator), of ingestion, of inhalation.

Here is a report that shows all the cyanide compounds. The gaseous compounds are very problematic.

www.atsdr.cdc.gov...
Hydraulic fracking is the process of injecting sand and water under extreme pressure into a shale formation to provide pathways for the gas to migrate to the well. The extreme pressure can also follow natural fractures to the surface where the increase in pressure can mobilize compounds in the vadose zone under the school. This pushes the contamination into preferential pathways such as building footings, porous sand filled utility trenches, old root cavities and any other porous pathways. Then the vapors seep through cracks in the foundation and floor where children can be exposed. In additional, any uncovered soil in the area such as a grass covered yard are also sources for vapor impact and dermal contact and exposure.

THESE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN POISONED BY THE GOVERNMENT AND THE SCHOOL IS COVERING IT UP.

These children should be tested for traces of cyanide and TCE and all their degradation compounds, and if found, the EPA and the agency allowing the fracking in the area should be held accountable.

I've been doing remediation of soil and groundwater contaminated with this stuff for 30 years. It's nasty.

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edit on 29-1-2012 by consciousgod because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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Good for them. Why would a radical activist be helpful anyway. All they want is attention and control to feed their personal narcissism.

You can't have fanatics on school grounds around children scaring them and spreading hate and propaganda.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
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Good for them. Why would a radical activist be helpful anyway. All they want is attention and control to feed their personal narcissism.

You can't have fanatics on school grounds around children scaring them and spreading hate and propaganda.



You do realize that Martin Luther King was considered a "radical activist" don't you?



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by COconspiracyguy
 


Good for them. Why would a radical activist be helpful anyway. All they want is attention and control to feed their personal narcissism.

You can't have fanatics on school grounds around children scaring them and spreading hate and propaganda.



This is exactly what is wrong with the world. People like you making accusations of hate and propaganda to derail the truth. Go ahead, shoot the messenger. It does not change the truth, just delays it and cost everybody money and lives, but go ahead, it is your right to be a stupid idiot making stupid accusations about stuff you know nothing about.

Maybe you should run for President of the USA. You seem to have a lot in common.
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posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by COconspiracyguy

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by COconspiracyguy
 


Good for them. Why would a radical activist be helpful anyway. All they want is attention and control to feed their personal narcissism.

You can't have fanatics on school grounds around children scaring them and spreading hate and propaganda.



You do realize that Martin Luther King was considered a "radical activist" don't you?


To compare the two is grossly dishonest.

People like Brokovich don't help with anything. She got what she wanted out of this. She's at the top of the Google searches. Causing more chaos at the school won't help anyone but her. She is an attention whore.

Nothing wrong with investigating the cause at all however. That school does not need a bunch of attention seekers around looking for cameras. I think I'm reasonable and I would not want a media circus around my child if I had one there.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 06:51 PM
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Please stop misrepresenting what I said and read the second post further explaining.

How exactly do you think it would be helpful to the kids at the school or even help solve the mystery by having a media whore around looking for publicity and in particular one not qualified to even do the research? It would not be helpful.

The kids are the most important consideration, not which celebrity gets on TV.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by consciousgod
The EPA Report provided on page 1 indicates the site may be contaminated with Cyanide and TCE.

The site was never effectively remediated. The soil was flushed with water sending the bulk of cyanide and TCE into the groundwater. The EPA has been addressing the groundwater contamination but has neglected the residual contamination remaining in the soil. They have addressed the TCE source, but they will never clean it up. TCE is a sinker and sinks into cracks and crevices in the bedrock.

*****The residual cyanide and TCE in the soil can cause the itching like bugs are crawling on them.

*****Chronic exposure causes neurological disorders.

Here is the MSDS for sodium cyanide.
www.sciencelab.com...

Toxicity to Animals:
Acute oral toxicity (LD50): 6.44 mg/kg [Rat]. Acute dermal toxicity (LD50): 10.4 mg/kg [Rabbit]. Chronic Effects on Humans: May cause damage to the following organs: skin, eyes, central nervous system (CNS).

Here is the MSDS for TCE
www.phy.duke.edu...

Chronic Effects on Humans:
CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: Classified + (PROVEN) by OSHA. Classified A5 (Not suspected for human.) by ACGIH. The substance is toxic to kidneys, the nervous system, liver, heart, upper respiratory tract.
Other Toxic Effects on Humans: Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant, permeator), of ingestion, of inhalation.

Here is a report that shows all the cyanide compounds. The gaseous compounds are very problematic.

www.atsdr.cdc.gov...
Hydraulic fracking is the process of injecting sand and water under extreme pressure into a shale formation to provide pathways for the gas to migrate to the well. The extreme pressure can also follow natural fractures to the surface where the increase in pressure can mobilize compounds in the vadose zone under the school. This pushes the contamination into preferential pathways such as building footings, porous sand filled utility trenches, old root cavities and any other porous pathways. Then the vapors seep through cracks in the foundation and floor where children can be exposed. In additional, any uncovered soil in the area such as a grass covered yard are also sources for vapor impact and dermal contact and exposure.

THESE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN POISONED BY THE GOVERNMENT AND THE SCHOOL IS COVERING IT UP.

These children should be tested for traces of cyanide and TCE and all their degradation compounds, and if found, the EPA and the agency allowing the fracking in the area should be held accountable.

I've been doing remediation of soil and groundwater contaminated with this stuff for 30 years. It's nasty.

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edit on 29-1-2012 by consciousgod because: (no reason given)


I think you've hit the nail on the head here. Of course, no one will take notice of the one person making sense.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 06:52 PM
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I have always felt that this, and similar medical stories carried on the MSM, coupled with the ramant number of zombie flicks created in the past decade alone are prepping us mentally for the next 'plague', like epidemic, as it were. From Resident Evil 1 through X, Walking Dead and the B movie mega choices on Netflix, there seems to be a conscience effort to plug undead/soulless/canibals into our psyche. These zombies are always created out of some illness/virus/bacteria that is always contagious, and have an explainable scientific background attributed to them.

On top of that, there are many of these movies that show TV reports during the movie or a flashback, that are relatable to the average person. It is my opinion, that these TV reports are a prelude to what is possibly to come. Which bring me full circle to this and many illnesses reported by the MSM. Anyone remember the classroooms full of children having possession like symptoms? I'm just sayin'......



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by consciousgod
 


Please stop misrepresenting what I said and read the second post further explaining.

How exactly do you think it would be helpful to the kids at the school or even help solve the mystery by having a media whore around looking for publicity and in particular one not qualified to even do the research? It would not be helpful.

The kids are the most important consideration, not which celebrity gets on TV.


She is not a media whore. She gets results. That's why they made a movie about her.

If the kids are so important to you, why don't you want these samples taken yesterday. Go ahead stick you foot in your mouth again.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 06:57 PM
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posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 07:01 PM
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this seems to me a likely standard first response of a school district's legal advisory team. whether the school knows or doesn't know what has caused this, its probably the default setting for situations like this.

i work in healthcare and have had a bit of experience with what they're calling 'conversion disorder', and it is actually a real thing. in my experience, patients that have displayed symptoms of hysteria are disproportionately females in their early teens. not sure why that is. however, usually these kids look and act scared, and i've often wondered if they may be victims of some kind of abuse. the girl in the one video i did watch did not seem to have that affect and also didn't appear to be faking imo.

this would make an awesome episode of House.





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