Originally posted by dondrews
reply to post by anthonygillespie2012
Try E-bay or craig's list. Used books are also an economical remedy for your situation(and mine too). If you are really seeking the truth and want to learn; you will find a way. 'Nuff said...
Originally posted by apushforenlightment
Originally posted by Tangled2011
I don't want to sound ignorant, but why does all that make you think 2012 is so important? If it has already started happening why wasn't 2011 the big year?
I'm actually very open-minded about the 2012 date, and I honestly believing their could be some shocks if/when something eventually happens this year, but I personally don't see how 2012 ties into what you've spoke of.edit on 29-1-2012 by Tangled2011 because: (no reason given)
2011 was the big year for me since I went on the ride in February . It would be nice if it was this year but I am not sure. Unfortunatly it might be that this is a maraton run and we might have a long way left. But every soul helps. I can't say I am learning so much anymore as I was last year. Now it's more about looking where the synchronicity guide me and see what action I want to do. Namaste
Originally posted by quietlearner
If you take hallucinogens you get hallucinations, basically your brain going haywire
for true awakening I would think such substances are not needed
and you would think those shamans in south america with all their "enlightenment substance help" would be more than jungle people by now.
Another point about true enlightenment (which I don't claim I am) is that if you study famous and widely accepted to be enlightened persons (Jesus, Buddha, etc) you will see that none of them claimed to be enlightened but people begun to accept their enlightenment from their teachings and actions. Whenever a hard question was given to them they responded with such clarity and truth that they awed their questioners. Too bad I don't see much of this in the "I'm enlightened" posts here is ATS. I still have to come into one of these posts and truly feel like the person saying it has has achieved any form of enlightenment other than wishful thinking.
Originally posted by angellicview
reply to post by OleMB
Wow! I must say I've never had an experience like that! I have heard other people, though, say that they have.
I feel that I know who we are, where we came from, and where we are going. So in that sense I feel like I am "awakened". But to have an experience such as that one, I suppose I lack whatever it is one needs to have it. Perhaps it has to do with my diet, or the fact that I consume large amounts of fluoride, or that I am addicted to pharmaceuticals (antidepressants, which are very addicting).
What do you think?
Originally posted by trust_no_one
reply to post by OleMB
well hey there buddy i have just read through the pages of this thread and i intend to U2U/ PM you soon
i have always been a fan of terrance mckenna from his time wave zero theory that originally enticed me towards him to his stoned ape theory that just made me enjoy him more
a friend of mine has recently awoken as you put it, and i understand as u just explained the term seems a little demeaning to those who are unaware of the experience tho i cant think of any more politically correct terms. Anywho i always felt somewhat in tune with things, my mom referred to me as an 'indigo' child but as i said my friend just awakened in the summer and described a very similar experience as you, literally feeling their head crack open with information and such.
i find people who recently awake quite interesting... in a way they know more than those who have been awakened for longer periods of time because they're still freshly awakened, questioning everything, a beginners luck sort of idea tho not luck as much as insight.
if your familiar with jim carry's speech on enlightenment at one point he says something like "and one day i found it and everything was so clear... and ever since ive been trying to get back to that same spot/thought"
another member posted a reply saying this 'awakening' thing happens every 50 years or so but maybe that could be relevant to mckenna's time wave zero theory in a way?
anywho i look forward to hearing your theory and further insights from PM