Chemtrails spraying is making us sick

reply to post by ProudBird


it isn't a myth you ingrade, we have seen the documents and they've admitted theyre "testing geoengineering" however we know they've been doing it since the early 2000s at least, possibly since 1996. We've done soil and groundwater tests in hawaii and in the united states and have incredible findings. Watch the documentary "What In The World Are They Spraying?" Also feel free to use startpage or google and search geoengineering or chemtrails and you will find plenty of information to support that it is going on, whether you like it or not. pathetic attempt at debunking a known reality. Me: "The Sky is Blue!" You: "Lol Myth, proof plz?"

reply to post by smarterthanyou

Incredible findings. Actually, they are credible. But the thing is, they don't show anything unusual.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Volcanic soils (with which the Hawaiian Islands are entirely covered) are very high in aluminum levels. In an article published in 1959 (Aluminum in Some Hawaiian Plants, Pacific Science, Vol. XIII) the aluminum content of soil from various areas is given.

Haiku: 25-40%
Kapaa: 40-60%
Kukaiau: 20-35%
Honokaa: 15-30%
scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu...

There was at one time some research done as to the feasibility of bauxite mining in Hawaii.

Originally posted by killemall
reply to post by network dude

 

Just for you mr mason,


Who is behind this all?
SATAN and the pawns he uses to destroy mankind and pawns that ignore and cover up the whole issue.

How is this stuff delivered? (are there secret spray nozels or is it in the fuel?)
The planes have very large holding tanks inside and a little man tips it out cup by cup from the back door, he is really quite quick and sometime uses two cups and once.

Hope this helped you, if you need anything else please let me know I will help you,
Kind regards,
Your friend.

edit on 1-2-2012 by killemall because: Wanted to add some pictures of the little man but he is a little shy

He prefers to be called Lucifer. At least that is what some poster told me who claims to get visits from him on occasion. But of course that does make the most sense.

As does the little man theory. BTW, is that the same guy in my fridge who operates the light, or is it another person altogether?

Thanks for the answers.

Originally posted by smarterthanyou
reply to post by ProudBird

 

it isn't a myth you ingrade, we have seen the documents and they've admitted theyre "testing geoengineering"

Well, yes

www.bbc.co.uk...

www.bbc.co.uk...

Originally posted by smarterthanyou
reply to post by ProudBird

 

they've admitted theyre "testing geoengineering" however we know they've been doing it since the early 2000s at least, possibly since 1996.

How do we "know" that??

reply to post by Essan


My god! The diagram on the BBC article shows a tethered barrage balloon instead of half the BA fleet flying in formation. How could this be?

reply to post by smarterthanyou

it isn't a myth you ingrade.....

? What the heck is an "ingrade"? Did you mean "ingrate"? If so, that makes you smarter than me, I suppose.....

.... we have seen the documents and they've admitted theyre "testing geoengineering"....

Exactly what "testing" has been accomplished? Specific details.

Or, whe you say "we" have seen the documents, are you referring to the many, many studies being undertaken to "brainstorm" and "think tank" for possible geoengineering concepts.....concepts yet to be implemented in any way?

Those "admissions"? Because, each and every claim pointed to by the "chemtrail crowd" (is that where the "we" comes from?) has been shown to be merely the aforementioned studies and proposals.

Watch the documentary "What In The World Are They Spraying?"

Oh, that junkumentary piece of garbage? Factually incorrect, and blatantly lying propaganda piece for the "chemtrail" hucksters and hoax pushers?

Oh well aware of it. Anyone can make a film, post it on the Internet, and claim it as "fact" nowadays. Perhaps if you properly vetted and checked the many claims from that film, then the reality will set in that you were duped (along with a slew of others....you are not alone).

reply to post by smarterthanyou


It seems that the FAA and the UN are quite concerned about contrails affecting climate change.
globalchange.gov...

FAA conducts research to support Goal 2, leveraging research with other U.S. Government agencies to reduce uncertainties surrounding aviation emissions and their effect on climate change. For example, FAA research through the Partnership for Air Transportation Noise and Emissions Reduction (PARTNER) Center of Excellence addresses the impact of aircraft contrails on climate change. FAA also participates heavily in the work program of the International Civil Aviation Organization's Committee on Aviation Environmental Protection, and provides technical expertise and date to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC).

So, even if they aren't using the word "chemtrails", it appears that these persisting contrails are affecting the climate as was discussed earlier in relation to how the government is interested in creating clouds to offset global warming.

Maybe we're using the wrong argument. Maybe if we tackled contrails head on, this would take care of the issue of whatever they're spraying in the skies?

Since they are so scared of using the word chemtrails, let's play their game and start insisting that they clean up their act before they cause havoc on the environment making us all sick.

reply to post by Afterthought

Right. No more air travel.
Or air travel only at low enough altitudes to prevent the formation of contrails. Who cares if it is inefficient to do so? Who cares if it would dump more exhaust gasses (including CO2) into the atmosphere.

Good idea!

Originally posted by Essan

Originally posted by smarterthanyou
reply to post by ProudBird

 

it isn't a myth you ingrade, we have seen the documents and they've admitted theyre "testing geoengineering"

Well, yes

www.bbc.co.uk...

www.bbc.co.uk...

Well, not exactly. That test has not been done yet.

It's also not a test of geoengineering exactly, it's a test of the equipment needed to do geoengineering. The first tests will not alter the climate at all. It's to pave the way for later tests, which actually will (if they can ever get the political agreement to do it)

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Afterthought

 

Right. No more air travel.
Or air travel only at low enough altitudes to prevent the formation of contrails. Who cares if it is inefficient to do so? Who cares if it would dump more exhaust gasses (including CO2) into the atmosphere.

And also more water vapour........

Good idea!

Unless you like cheap air travel, or minimizing pollution.

Originally posted by Afterthought
reply to post by smarterthanyou

So, even if they aren't using the word "chemtrails", it appears that these persisting contrails are affecting the climate as was discussed earlier in relation to how the government is interested in creating clouds to offset global warming.

Contrails may well affect climate - there is research going on into whether that is true or not.

Maybe we're using the wrong argument. Maybe if we tackled contrails head on, this would take care of the issue of whatever they're spraying in the skies?

Addressing contrails would address 99.9% of the visible trails in the sky - the other 0.1% being the sometimes barely visible soot trails from some a/c.

Since they are so scared of using the word chemtrails, let's play their game and start insisting that they clean up their act before they cause havoc on the environment making us all sick.

How do contrails make you sick?

reply to post by Phage


Why don't you enlighten me as to the reason for antimisting fuel and what types of aircraft it can be used in.

Here's some more info on how CONtrails harm the environment and, most likely, us, too.
www.scribd.com...

Aircraft operating at high altitudes near the tropopause can also release chemicals that interact with greenhouse gases at those altitudes, particularly nitrogen compounds, which interact with ozone, increasing ozone concentrations.

Most light piston aircraft burn avgas, which contain stetra-ethyl lead (TEL), a highly-toxic substance that can cause soil contamination at airports. Some lower-compression piston engines can operate on unleaded mogas, and turbine engines and diesel engines ² neither of which requires lead -- are appearing on some new lighter aircraft.

Originally posted by Afterthought
reply to post by Phage

 

Why don't you enlighten me as to the reason for antimisting fuel and what types of aircraft it can be used in.

The reason for anti misting fuel was to try to reduce the impact of post crash fires by reducing the tendency of the fuel to form a fine mist with air after a crash. Such a mist is extremely flammable and easy to ignite - by preventing it from forming it was hoped to delay the onset of fire and improve survivability.

The trial concluded that there was little actual benefit and there were better benefits to be gained by improving the fire characteristics of cabin fittings.

So the additive was not approved,and is not used on any civil aircraft today - the specifications for Jet A1 are contained in this document, which lists all approved additives - there is no approved anti-misting additive included.

reply to post by Afterthought


Indeed - as debunkers have always said - contails are pollution.

In fact jet exhaust is pollution whether you can see it or not!

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


Thanks for explaining that for Phage. I'm glad to hear they aren't still using that type of fuel. Hydrogen would probably be a cleaner substitute, but it's still highly combustable.

Here's some more info I found:
www.brighthub.com...

Contrails are also known to cause global dimming by blocking the sunrays from reaching the surface of the earth. The aerosols present in the contrails are known to deflect the sunrays from their path preventing heat and light energy from entering the atmosphere of the earth.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


So, you concur. Whether you call them contrails or chemtrails, they are making the environment and us ill.

reply to post by Afterthought


AFAIK contrails are not making us ill.

Car exhaust - now THAT might be making you ill - since there is 7-8 times as much of it and it is actually at the same level as you are.

reply to post by Afterthought


So are cars, trucks, buses, trains, factories, mines, construction equipment, wood fired heater and ovens, pulp mills, power plants, generators....etc etc....

The difference is, all of those and more are releasing their stuff close to the ground.

Planes make up a small fraction of the pollutants released and are doing it 30,000 feet away.

You will breath in more toxins standing near a running car for 2 minutes than you would standing under a busy cruise altitude flight path in...I dunno...a year.