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Chemtrails spraying is making us sick

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posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
reply to post by Drew99GT
 

Like the lead they use to add to gas to lube the valve guides on car engines?
What size and temperature does lead have to be to be run threw a car filter?
Hey Gaul did they ever add lead to aircraft fuel?





The lead used in fuel is soluble. That's why it doesn't clog filters. Same with motor oil. Oils have all kinds of metallic additives in them. They're SOLUBLE.




posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 09:52 PM
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Good to know I will take my wheel weights off and throw them in my gas tank.
Or should I throw the whole car battery in there and see how long it takes to dissolve.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 09:52 PM
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You do realize the military uses a completely different network of radar and satellites than the NWS, right?



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 09:57 PM
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Hey Sheep .. if you are brave enough watch the documentary "What in the World Are They Spraying?"

Then come back here ... if not, then dont bother contributing here with a broken weapon of knowledge.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by killemall
Chemtrails everywhere around here recently just before the rain came along and all of a sudden we are all having flu like symptoms and it summer, go figure that one out.
We have sore throats, coughs, .aches and tiredness. We have seen a large increase in cold sores amongst the everyday people (IMMUNE SYSTEMS DROPPING) and no one seems to have any energy.

Chemtrails were sprayed heavily a few weeks back every day for weeks and most likely the entire time we have had rain they've been spraying above the rain.
Have you rain water tested (I recommend by 2 or 3 independent labs). You will be surprised what results come back.


Federal government is not acting because they are part of the operation. One reason why so many people are irritable (I believe) are the chemtrails affected parts of the brain. Resist it, don't succumb to the serpent's offspring trails. The New World Order has work to do to make sure the population of the world is reduced by a certain number. Chemtrails factor in to this I am sure.

A coming enslavement for everyone, the FEMA camps and the chemtrails, and 2012 scare. Mandatory barcodes soon for a H5N1 (bird flu) pandemic. Mainstream news worldwide is shutting their mouths.
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posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 10:02 PM
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The woman who has done a lot of work at this level is Dr. Staninger -
Dr. Staninger
This is just a small bit of her research.


I read the PDF. Did you?

Do you understand the implications and specifics of Dr. Staninger's report? The spraying for WNV for example. In Anaheim, and other locations in California.

Insecticide spraying is well know, is not secret, is conducted for the benefit of the larger population...and most importantly, NOT carried out by large transport category jets from altitudes above 30,000 feet!


This is the cognitive disconnect that occurs constantly in these so-called "chemtrail" claims. When completely unrelated incidents, such as this sort of spraying, is compared to what are typically termed "contrails" by those ill-informed as to the actual science, and nature, of normal contrails.

The report by Dr. Staninger is interesting in its own right, and provides valuable information as to the efficacy and "wisdom" of such spraying, as for the WNV-carrying mosquito problem --- but, it has absolutely nothing to do with contrails, nor high-altitude air traffic....and certainly nothing to do with the standard misidentified "chemtrail" and those claims.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 10:05 PM
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And you do realize that water is a chemical and is part of contrails as you call it.
When I say this then,
the new debunkers come and explain what chemtrail believe is,
not the facts of what is in a contrail with water in which could be called a chemtrail.
The new debunkers have spend months trying to convince me water is not a chemical.
The contrail believers have talk me into believing there is chemtrails with all the facts they provide.
Look up water
Look up stealth
look up exhaust emission aircraft
look up fuel additives to prevent fuel freeze on aircraft
I am waiting for someone to prove there is a plane exhaust with no chemicals in it.
and yes I know my car has the same effects.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by COconspiracyguy
 


I am please to see you now realise that there is no evidence for chemtrails.

but there is n real need to prove that jet engine exhaust is pollution - there's no actual argument about that.


Sophomoric imbeciles, you should poison everything. Make their jobs easy. These whip toppin fools can't see it like the people who jumped off of buildings to their death during the Great Depression, it had to hit them that hard.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by nuttin4U
Well, they are out now...spraying away. I counted 6 planes just in the past few minutes. I'm intrigued with this 'chemtrail' thing...only because they seem to spray. in the same EXACT locations, right outside my bedroom door.

I should also state, i live no where close to an airport...and even if i did, i can't see this many people flying, where i'm at. Where are all these people going, or coming from? Also, how can people AFFORD to fly, during these times? There has been an awful lot of activity in the skies over the past 3 weeks. Too much, IMHO!


The continuation of a Greek tragic story, the "Gods" in the planes are loosing chemicals on people whereas we are not supposed to be like the Gods. We bound to earth we cannot be inventors or something with creativity that challenges the status quo.

Drugs and opium from Afghanistan are probably financing the Aerosol spraying, funded exclusively by the cartels and banks. Public health is the objective of public health and our government is speeding up our demise. The pesticides and pollutants and bad chemicals in our food.
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posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by Drew99GT

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
reply to post by Drew99GT
 

Like the lead they use to add to gas to lube the valve guides on car engines?
What size and temperature does lead have to be to be run threw a car filter?
Hey Gaul did they ever add lead to aircraft fuel?





The lead used in fuel is soluble. That's why it doesn't clog filters. Same with motor oil. Oils have all kinds of metallic additives in them. They're SOLUBLE.


So what chemical do you add to lead to make it dissolve?

More chemicals more trails from planes, trains and automobiles.
But don't you dare believe there is some chemical trail back to some chemical manufacture,
or I will come and ridicule you for not worshiping the chemical gods!



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by ProudBird
Well then, in the video of Sofia Smallwood and her PowerPoint presentation, care to locate the time reference for the above?

Because, as I clearly indicated, the first 6 minutes showed her lack of knowledge, and therefore impugned her very credibility from the outset.

Is there any shred of proof or evidence in the rest, specifically the parts you mentioned, about synthetic biology?

Also, in that same vein, is there any sort of proof of "spraying" of this "synthetic biology? Or is it just an hour's worth of more unwarranted and unsubstantiated claims?

And keeping in mind this particular thread's topic --- does anything in the video go to that? This "synthetic biology" making anyone "sick"?


You're wait'in for a coffin? Maybe coffins are equipped with remotes for powerpoint, but if you are dead how much fun would a presentation be?

You don't believe that people don't like you and me (high places) we are a threat to the idea of a New World where none of us are there putting out our "carbon footprint." Maybe research a powerpoint instead of elite's plan for depopulation and the unconstitutional Federal reserve. Don't put more garbage in there, if you can't see who is running the show.
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posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by spinkyboo
 



The woman who has done a lot of work at this level is Dr. Staninger -
Dr. Staninger
This is just a small bit of her research.


I read the PDF. Did you?

Do you understand the implications and specifics of Dr. Staninger's report? The spraying for WNV for example. In Anaheim, and other locations in California.

Insecticide spraying is well know, is not secret, is conducted for the benefit of the larger population...and most importantly, NOT carried out by large transport category jets from altitudes above 30,000 feet!


This is the cognitive disconnect that occurs constantly in these so-called "chemtrail" claims. When completely unrelated incidents, such as this sort of spraying, is compared to what are typically termed "contrails" by those ill-informed as to the actual science, and nature, of normal contrails.

The report by Dr. Staninger is interesting in its own right, and provides valuable information as to the efficacy and "wisdom" of such spraying, as for the WNV-carrying mosquito problem --- but, it has absolutely nothing to do with contrails, nor high-altitude air traffic....and certainly nothing to do with the standard misidentified "chemtrail" and those claims.


Did you go to her nanotech page?
Google her name + chemtrails and you'll get all the info that
she discusses regarding her take on nanotech
and trails as a possible delivery system.

I'm not here to convince you of anything.
You don't need to fight with me.
The film that I posted from chemtrails to pseudo-life
in my opinion describes what our species is truly up against.
It's smart and it's relevant.
I don't expect you to agree.
I don't need for you to agree.
I need for you to be just who you are, believing what you do.
The world needs both of us here.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by STEADFast
Hey Sheep .. if you are brave enough watch the documentary "What in the World Are They Spraying?"

Then come back here ... if not, then dont bother contributing here with a broken weapon of knowledge.


Hey victim- are you brave enough to read how that movie has conned you?

Sorry about this.....

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And not only that, but one of the authors has recanted in the idea that contrails do not persist, and now says that you cannot actually tell the difference between a contrail and a chemtrail except by a chemical test - which AFAIK no-one has ever done.


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posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 10:58 PM
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These days...with so much information...the truth is hard to come by. The people that say they're just 'contrails' haven't seen what i've seen, over the past 2 years. I know the difference between 'contrail' and a 'chemtrail'. Unless, a 'contrail' is really a 'chemtrail' and a 'chemtrail' is really a 'contrail'...and we just got the names confused. But, whatever you want to call them..they're UNDENIABLE. It's hard to see how a little bit of exhaust can cause a DRAMATIC change in weather. You can see the streak GROW, throughout the day. It starts like a LOOOOOOOOOOONG line, then starts to expand and get puffy; you can even see the 'clouds' drifting. And guess where they're drifting into: the Pacific Ocean. And you want me to believe it's a 'contrail' that caused it? Hmm, maybe it is.


Ok then, let's let the people decide.

Is this a contrail?


What is this, then?


And how about this?


Or this?


What about this?


So, this is normal?


And this?


Ewwww, that's purty.


Wow, niiiiiiice


I'm loving the way it drifts INTO the ocean.


These pics are old pics...the ones i had available online. I have MUCH better ones, than this. I took some of today's activity...but...why bother loading them...they look the same as these. The only difference today, was the fact that the planes were flying relatively close to each other. A little too close, to be passenger planes. That's for SURE!
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posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 10:59 PM
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The stuff they put up there isn't making you sick - your life style and diet are.

I have seen the chem trail jets along side normal 'regular' jets in the sky - contrails and chemtrails are a very noticeable distinction. I have seen aircraft start and stop then start again spraying - all along side a regular contrail producing jet.

If you think what they put up there is making you sick - your diet, just like mine, is the main cause. Not to mention your water supply. Prepare your own foods and get exercise regularly - just like your parents and grand parents did. Eat hearty (full of natural fats/carbs/protein) food, but do not eat food products (anyone with WIC can tell you the difference). Learn to prepare foods from 'scratch' just like your grandmother did.

Don't use aluminium cookware also. Use good old fashion iron skillets and such. Stay away from non stick cookware. Avoid plastics. Get rid of your microwave (food heated inside plastic containers are harmful).

That, in my opinion, is what is making most of us sick. Whether or not the chemicals/particles they are seeding in the air are also a cause is beyond me. I do know our current lifestyle is causing much harm to our bodies.

But your judgement could be rock-on. These are just my opinions and I do not mean to say you are wrong. I do mean to say that we need to live like our families did long ago...I have even gone to sleeping in long underwear to keep my body temp up in the night. I also wear long sleeves all day long. I never shy away from manual labor. I only eat what my body needs and not just because everyone else is eating (I don't need breakfast and eat a very tiny, 200 cal, lunch but eat a normal fat/veggie filled supper). (I am a mechanic and do not have an office job - I would probably cut out lunch if I had an office job). I also take a natural laxative when I feel sick. I drink fluids when I am sick - no temp reduction drugs for me.

Hope you feel better.

But I am sure these comment will go overlooked by the mongers.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 11:00 PM
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Hey man, keep up the research and don't let the guys like ProudBird and Gaul drown out your speculation and theories with the same few talking points they always use, no matter what other information and personal experiences you attempt to convey. I firsthand know the chemtrails are tied into autoimmune and respiratory illnesses, as well as emerging cases of strange skin diseases. I can't provide definitive proof that this is the case, such as samples of the chemtrail itself as is so often demanded by the debunkers. Well, I'm not a scientist nor do I have the lab funding of one, so I find it quite trite that the debunkers act like it would just be easy as pie to do something like this on one's own. I can only submit that I personally suffer from what others have come to term 'Morgellons', and there is quite alot of information supporting the theory that COconspiracyguy posited, that being that there is a disturbing amount of correlation between the rise of chemtrail activity, and the declining health of previously healthy individuals. This is not to mention my personal experiences, but I shan't get into them here as the mods have a tendency to delete my long, well-thought out posts. The video already provided with Sofia Smallstorm is a great place to start to pick up alot of useful information, and there's plenty of evidence that can be gleaned from other sources online. There's always more going on than meets the eye.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
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And not only that, but one of the authors has recanted in the idea that contrails do not persist, and now says that you cannot actually tell the difference between a contrail and a chemtrail except by a chemical test - which AFAIK no-one has ever done.


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When they evacuate the cities and people get hauled to FEMA camps wont be a way to test many things. You can't connect dots, the NDAA and Congress detainment law. Something fishy in the midst you can't see how dots are formed?

People owned by business organizations, they are going to plow the field with yours ignorance.
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posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by TheBassistant
reply to post by COconspiracyguy
 


Hey man, keep up the research.....


What research has he actually done??!!



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 11:03 PM
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I will tell you this Gaul, my mother in-law thinks contrails are pretty.
I don't think she knows that they are created from planes, and I won't tell her if you don't.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by MarkScheppy


When they evacuate the cities and people get hauled to FEMA camps wont be a way to test many things. You can't connect dots, the NDAA and Congress detainment law. Something fishy in the midst you can't see how dots are formed?


What a shame you edited out the bit about testing HAARP - it would be a great example of how conspiracy believers end up swallowing everything going without pause for critical thinking and rational thought!




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