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I prolly shouldn't post this at 430AM in the US. One day I'll learn.
A little poll for registered US voters., page 1
reply posted on 29-1-2012 @ 05:41 AM by MrWendal
reply to post by captainnotsoobvious
May I ask what makes it "pretty clear"?
There have been what? 3 or 4 Primaries? Out of 50!!! Thats not even 10% so how is it "pretty clear"? Delegates for Iowa have not even voted yet and it is no secret that Ron Paul may very well win Iowa. Many publications put out articles about it. Just google, "Ron Paul may have secretly won Iowa" (which was the title of the articles which discussed it) to get an idea of what happened there with the delegates.
May I ask what makes it "pretty clear"?
There have been what? 3 or 4 Primaries? Out of 50!!! Thats not even 10% so how is it "pretty clear"? Delegates for Iowa have not even voted yet and it is no secret that Ron Paul may very well win Iowa. Many publications put out articles about it. Just google, "Ron Paul may have secretly won Iowa" (which was the title of the articles which discussed it) to get an idea of what happened there with the delegates.
reply posted on 29-1-2012 @ 05:44 AM by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by MrWendal
I... I could be rude here, but will try not to be...
The reality is that Paul has no chance... he doesn't poll well in any of the major states (he's not even trying in Florida for instance). He's even said he doesn't expect to win.
So, if that's not obvious to you, then... you're gonna be in for a series of pretty depressing events.
Sorry, man, it's ain't happening.
I... I could be rude here, but will try not to be...
The reality is that Paul has no chance... he doesn't poll well in any of the major states (he's not even trying in Florida for instance). He's even said he doesn't expect to win.
So, if that's not obvious to you, then... you're gonna be in for a series of pretty depressing events.
Sorry, man, it's ain't happening.
reply posted on 29-1-2012 @ 05:47 AM by MrWendal
reply to post by HangTheTraitors
Your so funny!!!
Maybe you are not aware of this, but allow me to point out that economic policy that is put into place usually shows no effects until after the sitting President leaves Office.
The things Obama has done, if he were to not get a second term, will actually be felt during the first term of the new President. I can not stand Obama, but not everything is his fault. A lot of what is happening are due to Bush Policies. The problem here however is that Obama literally continued those same Policies.
I may be wrong, I am sure there are members here MUCH more educated than me on economics, but that is the way it was explained to me many many years ago.
Your so funny!!!
Maybe you are not aware of this, but allow me to point out that economic policy that is put into place usually shows no effects until after the sitting President leaves Office.
The things Obama has done, if he were to not get a second term, will actually be felt during the first term of the new President. I can not stand Obama, but not everything is his fault. A lot of what is happening are due to Bush Policies. The problem here however is that Obama literally continued those same Policies.
I may be wrong, I am sure there are members here MUCH more educated than me on economics, but that is the way it was explained to me many many years ago.
reply posted on 29-1-2012 @ 05:48 AM by beezzer
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by beezzer
Well that's obviously not true.
You asked the question.
I provided an answer and an explanation.
So you refute my opinion on a thread where you asked for it?
reply posted on 29-1-2012 @ 05:50 AM by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by beezzer
If you read the OP closely you'll note I never asked for your opinion on Obama. And yeah, blanket statements are pretty easy to refute.
If you read the OP closely you'll note I never asked for your opinion on Obama. And yeah, blanket statements are pretty easy to refute.
reply posted on 29-1-2012 @ 05:54 AM by beezzer
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by beezzer
If you read the OP closely you'll note I never asked for your opinion on Obama. And yeah, blanket statements are pretty easy to refute.
Apologies. I only provided an explanation for my vote.
Didn't realize there was an underlying issue involved with this thread.
Good day.
reply posted on 29-1-2012 @ 05:58 AM by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by beezzer
No underlying issue. Just correcting you on your mischaracterization of my OP. Express other opinions if you must, but don't expect me to agree with them.
No underlying issue. Just correcting you on your mischaracterization of my OP. Express other opinions if you must, but don't expect me to agree with them.
reply posted on 29-1-2012 @ 06:30 AM by Open_Minded Skeptic
reply to post by captainnotsoobvious
I have never been affiliated with any political party; voting instead for the person. Over my voting life I have voted for Democrats, Republicans, even Green party...
Given the current, obvious philosophy of the GOP - to protect and further enrich the rich at any cost - there is no freaking way I will vote for one of the current GOP "candidates".
I'm not interested in repeating the policies of the Bush administration, which are largely responsible for the current mess (some reasons reach back to before W). To the current crop of GOP, "debt reduction" is to be done on the backs of the middle class, and no thanks, I've paid my share and then some.
"Strong national defense" means they plan on starting more wars, and I never hear any of the so-called "serious" GOP types talk about cutting spending on military adventurism. So no thanks there, either.
"Promoting jobs" is code for removing all restrictions on big business, so air, water and food quality will decline even further. No thanks.
And every ecomonic plan they come up with is clearly designed to further enrich themselves, at the cost of everybody else. No thanks.
Further, since Obama took, office, the GOP has conducted an obvious campaign of opposition to anything he does, without regard to whether what he wanted to do was in the interest for the country or not. That is obstructionism in its purest, most vile form, and that behavior has done nothing to improve the smell of the GOP.
Obama has not been as effective as I would have liked him to be, largely due to his attempts to actually work with the GOP, which was doomed to failure from the start.
Obama is a centrist, and all the frenzy raised by the GOP and its minions, 99.9% of which is pure BS has not helped the GOP either in my book.
So. Given that the policies of the GOP are directly traceable to our current economic mess, and given that said policies tend to start more wars and further drive up the debt and further degrade US position in the world, and given that the representatives of the GOP lie in practically everything they say, and given the current crowd of clowns posing as GOP presidential candidates, my vote will be going to Obama.
It is possible someone else will come along for whom I'll change my vote, but given the state of the country in general and the GOP in particular, I doubt it.
This country is headed for a crash, and it is due to the policies of Democrats and Republicans both.
Sad thing is, still stuck in the trap of voting for the least bad. There are plenty of things about Obama I do not like. But he is orders of magnitude better than anything else in sight at the moment.
I have never been affiliated with any political party; voting instead for the person. Over my voting life I have voted for Democrats, Republicans, even Green party...
Given the current, obvious philosophy of the GOP - to protect and further enrich the rich at any cost - there is no freaking way I will vote for one of the current GOP "candidates".
I'm not interested in repeating the policies of the Bush administration, which are largely responsible for the current mess (some reasons reach back to before W). To the current crop of GOP, "debt reduction" is to be done on the backs of the middle class, and no thanks, I've paid my share and then some.
"Strong national defense" means they plan on starting more wars, and I never hear any of the so-called "serious" GOP types talk about cutting spending on military adventurism. So no thanks there, either.
"Promoting jobs" is code for removing all restrictions on big business, so air, water and food quality will decline even further. No thanks.
And every ecomonic plan they come up with is clearly designed to further enrich themselves, at the cost of everybody else. No thanks.
Further, since Obama took, office, the GOP has conducted an obvious campaign of opposition to anything he does, without regard to whether what he wanted to do was in the interest for the country or not. That is obstructionism in its purest, most vile form, and that behavior has done nothing to improve the smell of the GOP.
Obama has not been as effective as I would have liked him to be, largely due to his attempts to actually work with the GOP, which was doomed to failure from the start.
Obama is a centrist, and all the frenzy raised by the GOP and its minions, 99.9% of which is pure BS has not helped the GOP either in my book.
So. Given that the policies of the GOP are directly traceable to our current economic mess, and given that said policies tend to start more wars and further drive up the debt and further degrade US position in the world, and given that the representatives of the GOP lie in practically everything they say, and given the current crowd of clowns posing as GOP presidential candidates, my vote will be going to Obama.
It is possible someone else will come along for whom I'll change my vote, but given the state of the country in general and the GOP in particular, I doubt it.
This country is headed for a crash, and it is due to the policies of Democrats and Republicans both.
Sad thing is, still stuck in the trap of voting for the least bad. There are plenty of things about Obama I do not like. But he is orders of magnitude better than anything else in sight at the moment.
reply posted on 29-1-2012 @ 06:42 AM by CoherentlyConfused
reply to post by captainnotsoobvious
Yes, and a frilly pink tutu isn't really his style.
But to answer your OP, I would be voting D, other. Write-in.
Yes, and a frilly pink tutu isn't really his style. But to answer your OP, I would be voting D, other. Write-in.
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