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Originally posted by swampcricket
Also cn some of you actually show me where we will be aligned to the galactic center?
Originally posted by WeRpeons
reply to post by BBalazs
I agree with you. People have been claiming dates for the end of the world for centuries. These dates come and go. The amount of money being made off of the 2012 doomsday must be great for Hollywood, survival equipment and canned food industries.
You can change destiny. We're just here for the ride. No sense in living in fear, what will be, will be. All I know, if something should happen, I would want to be one of the first to parish. Trying to survive hell on earth is not my idea of fun.
Originally posted by Starchild23
Those of you who don't believe in it, where's your proof that everyone else is nuts?
Neither of you provides proof besides "Oh, well...I dunno lol" or maybe "Well, it just sounds ridiculous!" Look around you and think of how the Egyptians would have looked at you if you mentioned our televisions and computers and cars.
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by CaptainNemo
Yay another contestant for Xcalibur's 2012 Challenge. You have mentioned that a number of other cultures have prophecies that relate to this time period. Prove it. Provide me with said prophecies that refer specifically to the time we are currently living in. I don't want a list of the cultures that supposedly have these prophecies. I want the prophecies themselves.
Now on to the bulk of your post. The Sumerians never did not believe in a 10th planet. They didn't even know of any planets other than the ones that can be seen with the naked eye. The sole source for this claim of a 10th planet is Sitchin and his source is Cylinder Seal VA 243. The area that Sitchin refers to as a depiction of the solar system is merely an illustration of stars in the sky. We know what symbols the Sumerians used to depict the planets, None of these symbols appear on this seal. What does appear is the symbol used to depict stars. Furthermore, the Sumerians didn't even have the word nibiru. It didn't appear until the Akkadians, at which point it referred to a point of crossing such as at a river. It wasn't until the Babylonians that the word took on an astronomical meaning. To them it referred to the highest point of the ecliptic. Occasionally a planet would be in this position and at those times nibiru would also refer to the planet. The most common occurrences of this have nibiru referring to Jupiter or Mercury.
The Kolbrin is a hoax. There's nothing more to say about it. The only people who apparently have any knowledge in regards to is existence as an ancient text are those publishing it. In fact if you look into the story of the discovery of the Kolbrin many of the facts are verifiably wrong. It's also worth noting that the only "university" that supports the Kolbrin as a legitimate ancient document is owned by the same person that publishes the Kolbrin. There is absolutely no validity to any of its claims. It is merely another work of fiction that someone is trying to pass off as truth to the New Age crowd.
Your claims in regard to the 1983 article (the actual scientific paper was published in 1984) are also wrong. If you actually took the time to read the article you quote from you would realize that the object discovered could have been a number of things. While a planet was one of those possibilities another, among many, was a distant galaxy. It's also worth noting that in the newspaper article that you quoted from also says that the object is "not incoming mail," but the fearmongers always seem to miss this part. Now if we look at the actual 1984 paper we see that there would actually ten unidentified objects in the IRAS data. In 1985 a follow-up paper was published by the original team in which they identified nine of the objects as distant, young, ultra-luminous galaxies. In 1987 another follow-up paper was published by the original team. In this paper they identified the last object as an infrared cirrus. Of course the fearmongers don't bother to do any legitimate research. They would rather just skim an article from the Washington Post and then claim that no follow-up was done therefore the information is being suppressed.
As for your claims from 1982 you must remember one key fact, Voyager 2 had not done its flyby of Neptune at that point in time. When Voyager 2 passed the Neptunian system in 1989 any possibility of Planet X was thrown out the window. The reason why Planet X was hypothesized in the first place was due to perturbations in the orbits of the gas giants. With Voyager 2's flyby a number of new moons were discovered and as a result Neptune's mass had to be recalculated. With these new numbers the perturbations disappeared and 100+ year search for Planet X ended. Now the only ones claiming that Planet X is still out there waiting to kill us all are people like Nancy Lieder who cry wolf every time their bank account starts running low.
Originally posted by atotheb
No one will know the day or hour. Unless your not a christian, then your more than free to be blown about by the wind.
Originally posted by CaptainNemo
This is just another instance of western greek idealogy interpreting things the wrong way. The mayans believed in time as CYCLICAL; The greeks LINEAR. The world is not going to end in 2012. The world is going to be drastically changed in 2012.
In regards to previous end of the world predictions, can we all agree that those didn't have as much momentum behind them.? I still don't even understand Y2K. But we have multiple prophecies from multiple cultures all pointing towards the same time frame. The most prominent theory points to another planet that will wreak havoc upon it's approach, planet X. Supposebly it orbits a binary star system, companion to our sun. With this star being undetectable because of much less mass in comparison to the aforementioned. .?edit on 29-1-2012 by CaptainNemo because: (no reason given)