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Originally posted by chr0naut
reply to post by VoidHawk
That is amazing. To think that the ancient Egyptians measured in meters!
Actually, according to Wikipedia, the size of the base The Great Pyramid (Khufu's Horizon) averages 204.4 meters (note that this is approximate because the base of the Great Pyramid isn't even square).
This means that the diagonal size is 325.8 meters.
Subtracting 204.4 from 325.8 gives 95.4 which is NOWHERE NEAR the speed of light.
Also tried it in "Pyramid Inches" just in case there was a conversion issue going on:
Base = 217, diagonal therefore 306.88. so diagonal diameter minus base size diameter = 179.77
Still nowhere near the speed of light in meters!
I think this particular "factlet" is fully debunked.
Originally posted by Osito
good job on trying to debunk bro, I am as same as you.
I still don't know where OP got all the measurements from... the crop circles also, how does he know what are the measurements of all this?
I am no mathematician, but someone should help debunking this one.
Originally posted by unknownfairy
Originally posted by looofo
If you play around with m, foots, miles, pi and then subtract arbitrary dimensions from other dimensions then yes at the end you will find some coincidences (like how the speed of light was calculated, in m which the Egyptian of course didn't know).
I'm not too sure if you were referring to the calcuation I did above or not.
For what I did above, I was using basic geometry with the OP's claim to show if mathematically it was accurate or not. These were not "arbitrary dimensions" - it was using the formulas for pythagrous's theorem (a^2 + b^2 = h^2) and the circumference of a circle, (C=2*diameter). This doesn't work with just any randomly drawn square. As well, even though the result is in m/s, you can convert it to feet/s and still get the speed of light. This isn't "playing" with the numbers as it's simply converting one dimension to its equivalent value in another dimension 299.8 m/s * (1/0.3048)ft/m = 983.652 ft/s.....the speed of light in ft/s is 983,571,056. In other words, even if the Egyptians used a different unit of measurement, the relationship stays the same because of unit conversions and would still give the speed of light. This conversion isn't playing with the numbers any more than the statement that 1 foot equals 12 inches.
Moreover, I do also agree that "playing with" various dimensions can yield the result you want, depending on how it's done. For instance, take any 3 points not in a straight line and you will have a tirangle. This type of "playing" has been done time and time again when referring to the signifance of several structures on the face of the earth, such as the pyramids themselves. BUT, when you apply a mathematical prinicple to it, such as pythagrous (if it's a right angled triangle) or conversley the cosine law (if it's not a right angle triangle), then this gives you the relationship for the length of the sides to the angles within the triangle itself. This isn't quite the same as "playing" with it since one would be applying basic principles - these are the same type of principles that have given us the technology that we love and use today. I say principles because they will always work, and do not require you to "play" with them (such as, for example, the unit conversion shown above).
Originally posted by galactix
Take any circle, divide the diameter into four equal circles (as shown). Place the new smaller circles into a square pattern such that their edges touch the original circle (again, as shown). Draw a square between the centers of the small circles.
The perimeter of this new square = the circumference of the first big circle: "squaring the circle".
Originally posted by UFOOWNER
reply to post by Tsurugi
I think that your questionizationing has reached its infinitesimaly small vanishing point. lol!
"We believe in the possibility of a theory which will give a complete description of reality the laws of which establish relationships between the things themselves and not merely between their probabilities." Albert Einstein 1879-1955
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Originally posted by unknownfairy
Originally posted by chr0naut
reply to post by VoidHawk
That is amazing. To think that the ancient Egyptians measured in meters!
Actually, according to Wikipedia, the size of the base The Great Pyramid (Khufu's Horizon) averages 204.4 meters (note that this is approximate because the base of the Great Pyramid isn't even square).
This means that the diagonal size is 325.8 meters.
Subtracting 204.4 from 325.8 gives 95.4 which is NOWHERE NEAR the speed of light.
Also tried it in "Pyramid Inches" just in case there was a conversion issue going on:
Base = 217, diagonal therefore 306.88. so diagonal diameter minus base size diameter = 179.77
Still nowhere near the speed of light in meters!
I think this particular "factlet" is fully debunked.
Originally posted by Osito
good job on trying to debunk bro, I am as same as you.
I still don't know where OP got all the measurements from... the crop circles also, how does he know what are the measurements of all this?
I am no mathematician, but someone should help debunking this one.
Double check your math! Circumference of a circle is pi*diameter....take you diameter (95.4) and multiply it by PI (3.14).... you will get the speed of light. An no, this is not arbitrary, it is based on the OP's claim that the DIFFERENCE IN CIRCUMFERNCE yields the speed of light, NOT the difference in diameter. It'll also work for inches.
Originally posted by Tsurugi
Originally posted by UFOOWNER
reply to post by Tsurugi
I think that your questionizationing process has reached its infinitesimaly small vanishing point. lol!
....huh? because you are nit picking at a point until it's meaning vanishes!
"We believe in the possibility of a theory which will give a complete description of reality the laws of which establish relationships between the things themselves and not merely between their probabilities." Albert Einstein 1879-1955
Is that a quote of Einstein talking about Unified Field theory? "Does the grass bend when the wind blows upon it?" Confucius What does that have to do with what you said, or with what I said in my earlier post?What does einstein want from the quote an explanation what do you want an explanation Because of what you are talking about the questions you are asking are pointless just like probabilities are pointless. the point to your questioning is point less.
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...and why so many edits?? Because I don't think of it all at once and am trying to make what I say sound better to suit my purposes
that of squaring the circle, with just a compass, a ruler, and a pencil
Originally posted by COconspiracyguy
Interesting, thought provoking thread.
I would just like to add, that if you look at the Earth with the moon rotating around it,
It's the exact atomic structure of hydrogen, the most abundant resource on our planet, and
a fundamental component of life.
Coincidence?
Originally posted by unknownfairy
a = the side of a rectangle, say the width
b=the other side of a rectangle, say the length
h = the length of a hypotaneous (ie, the diagonal line connecting the corners of a rectangle)
Now, for a right-angled triangle, a^2+b^2=h^2. This is called pythagrous's theroem, a very well known property for a right-angled triangle, in which the hypotanous, h, is directly opposite the 90 degree-ed angle. If you don't believe me on this, go and talk to a math teacher, or google it.
So, a GENERAL expression for the differnce in circumferences = pi*a*0.4142
where a = the length of the side of the square (NOT the diagonal).
For the Khufu's pyramid at Giza, the lenght a = 230.4 m. (from Wikipedia, not 203.4m as earlier stated. Double check if you'd like)
This gives the difference in circumference = pi*230.4*0.4142
so, now it's 3.14*95266=299.28696, the speed of light in m/s off by a few magnitudes.