*Do you remember when contrails were contrails, and the sky never got tic tac toe'd?*

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posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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Chemtrails are real! I promise! Trust me!!!!! THEY ARE! THEY HAVE TO BE! OR ELSE I AM JUST PARANOID! IM NOT! I SWEAR!




posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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Spot the Difference..


Originally posted by Iwinder
Nobody can tell me what I am seeing now is what I saw 45 years ago laying in a field chewing on wild sweet grass.
Nobody.........Period.
Regards, Iwinder



Originally posted by Iwinder

ATS is about discussion and debate in a fair manner.





PS, I agree, the sky isn't the same, for reasons explained earlier.
edit on 31-1-2012 by waynos because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 07:15 PM
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Here is a good picture for you from a different perspective...



Don't see that view to often do you?



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 07:25 PM
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reply to post by tsurfer2000h
 


Or these:



(watch it, you'll like it).



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 07:29 PM
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Thanks for that.Yes you were right I did like it.


second



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 07:33 PM
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Thanks to both of you


My own pics are from much further away (vertically)


I never realised that Mirages also sprayed chemtrails



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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I see donut contrails being formed - this is the secret of Aurora!!


donut contrails, triangular aircraft - Sweeeeeeeet!
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posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 07:51 PM
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LOL
i mean, dude, how many times
are we gonna go over simple definitions?

enough is enough



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by pshea38
 


If one could at least get the phrase correct.....but, there is so much DIS- and MIS-information out there, and provided by the con-artists (and then accepted and swallowed by the gullible).....

.....Here.....the actual phrase is "Toe" the line

Read it and weep....for the death of knowledge, and the rise of ignorance........


that is merely your opinion, young man

still haven't read that link i see or the post itself:


Unsurprisingly, however, though, there are those who seek to oppose the assertions of those who contend that chemtrails are abnormal, and should be stopped. Apparently calculatedly, they term themselves "debunkers", to inculcate the perception that concern over chemtrails is, more than "misguided", an out-and-out hoax or fraud! Indeed, a number of them have used the term "hoax" in describing the concern over chemtrails - evidently suggesting that those who address the issue are actually pulling a prank on themselves - and even accused some who pursue the issue of doing it purely for personal profit.

As if someone choosing to try to make a profit off a situation suddenly makes that situation not exist.

Many have tried to hawk fake nostrums to eliminate the symptoms of the common cold, but that doesn't make the common cold nonexistent. Moreover, the "debunkers" regularly tout the software, Flight Explorer, to "identify" aircraft using routes where chemtrails form. Not only do they, apparently, wish to negate the existence of chemtrails by simply calling them contrails, they seem to want to convince the public that they arise from innocuous, harmless aircraft simply because unidentified, unverified information a piece of software displays on a screen says it does.

They try to "counsel" people against using the guidance of their eyes and their common sense in chemtrails; they, instead, apparently, want them to blindly obey "the official story".

Indeed, such faulty "reasoning", coupled with an attitude of guile and contempt, seems universally to characterize the chemtrail debunkers.




the death of knowledge, and the rise of ignorance, indeed



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 08:04 PM
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LOL from a station owned by GE
and which has been caught regularly covering up stuff related to GE's Nuclear power investments

why should i believe what a known propaganda outlet says?



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by Uncinus
 


LOL from a station owned by GE
and which has been caught regularly covering up stuff related to GE's Nuclear power investments

why should i believe what a known propaganda outlet says?


What does it say that is wrong, and how do you know it is wrong?



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by Uncinus
 


LOL from a station owned by GE
and which has been caught regularly covering up stuff related to GE's Nuclear power investments

why should i believe what a known propaganda outlet says?


What does it say that is wrong, and how do you know it is wrong?


www.youtube.com...

known since the 70's
but hey, continue to believe in everything you read in Le Monde

more nit picking and derailment

NEXT!



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by Uncinus
 


LOL from a station owned by GE
and which has been caught regularly covering up stuff related to GE's Nuclear power investments

why should i believe what a known propaganda outlet says?


But why would they be saying that in the 1980s?

Plus, the actual research on which the report was based was nothing controversial, and is consistent with all recorded science, everywhere.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 01:30 AM
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I remember this as well. It strikes a feeling of pain into my chest when I realize the conspiracy theorists are right and we are in serious trouble. Simply noticing chemtrails reminds me that there is a secret force at work that is shaping the environment and even the plantlife. Hope people wake up before it is too late.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by JRockABM
Still nobody has posted CHEMTRAIL photos of CHINA, RUSSIA, or IRAN.

Showing thin clouds is not enough!

I want to see the grid, tic-tac-toe patterns, the obvious THICK WHITE CLOUDY trais that we all are used to seeing here in the states!

Google image search, message random people on facebook and ask them, become little investigators that can TRULY debunk this!

I know you can't, because I've already tried! Both in person, and through reaching out to contacts I have all over the world.

This is the one factor that cannot be explained!

Oh well. I'll wait until another thread pops up...and keep asking this question until it REALLY ANSWERED!




No contrails over Iran (Seriously!), but Iran is 'spraying' Europe?

www.skystef.be...

It's a conspiracy, I tell you!


Seriously? You haven't searched very hard for Russia! I don't speak Russian, but even I can work out from internet searches the following.

'Himiotrassy' and 'Himtreyly'

See following videos and video links.

'Himtreyly in Orel'



'Himtreyly over St. Petersburg'



'Chemtrails spraying. January 29 2012. Moscow, Russia. 29.01.2012'



Links to the rest of the videos.

'Chemtrails and strange clouds. September 24 2011. The Moscow Region, Russia.'

www.youtube.com...

'Chemtrails. August 13 2011. The Moscow Region, Russia.'

www.youtube.com...

'Chemtrails go crazy in Moscow ( 18 october 2011)'

www.youtube.com...

'Chemtrail in Russia!'

www.youtube.com...

'Chemtrails May 24 2011 Moscow, Russia. Himiotrassy Moscow 24.05.2011'

www.youtube.com...

'Chelyabinsk Himtrassy 03/12/11'

www.youtube.com...

'Himtreyl of Samara'

www.youtube.com...

'Himtreyly over Moscow panoramic photo'

www.youtube.com...

'Himtreyly - 29.01.2012 (Moscow)'

www.youtube.com...

'Himtreyly in Rostov-on-Donu.mp4'

www.youtube.com...

'Chemtrails Nizhny Novgorod 26.01.2011 8h25m.flv'

www.youtube.com...

'Himtreyly in the country, near Serpukhov - 92km from Moscow'

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

'Chemtrails on Moscow, the May 2011'

www.youtube.com...

'Moscow is under attack (himiotrassy)'

www.youtube.com...

'CHEMTRAIL February 2011 (Part 1)'

www.youtube.com...

'Sochi himtreyly'

www.youtube.com...

Stop listening to nuts on the web that are spinning DVD and books for the gullible. Persistent contrails form in Russia, Iran and China exactly as they do in other parts of the world.





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