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Originally posted by Starchild23
reply to post by Annee
Do you really expect this child to understand that? You're talking physics now. I'm sure that would be so much better...explain in a way that the child can't understand.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by jerryznv
What should you quote when giving insperational points (anything but the Bible)?
Why is a counselor giving religious inspirational anything?
That is a violation of Church and State.
How about this. "There is no god - - we are all connected by energy. What we think creates. One must be aware of there thoughts and how it affects the energy whole."
I'm sure that is perfectly acceptable for a counselor to say. Don't you agree?
New International Version (©1984) So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
New Living Translation (©2007) "Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you.
New American Standard Bible (©1995) "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) Everything whatsoever you desire that people should do for you, do likewise for them, for this is the Law and The Prophets.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003) Therefore all things whatsoever you would that men should do to you, do you even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Originally posted by daryllyn
reply to post by Starchild23
[color=dodgerblue]You sure about that?
New International Version (©1984) So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
New Living Translation (©2007) "Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you.
New American Standard Bible (©1995) "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) Everything whatsoever you desire that people should do for you, do likewise for them, for this is the Law and The Prophets.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003) Therefore all things whatsoever you would that men should do to you, do you even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by Starchild23
reply to post by Annee
Do you really expect this child to understand that? You're talking physics now. I'm sure that would be so much better...explain in a way that the child can't understand.
I am not talking physics.
That is a Spiritual belief. You obviously object - - - with the excuse a child won't understand.
Originally posted by jerryznv
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by jerryznv
What should you quote when giving insperational points (anything but the Bible)?
Why is a counselor giving religious inspirational anything?
That is a violation of Church and State.
How about this. "There is no god - - we are all connected by energy. What we think creates. One must be aware of there thoughts and how it affects the energy whole."
I'm sure that is perfectly acceptable for a counselor to say. Don't you agree?
Poor kid...wait until he goes to college and is required to study intro to religion for his degree!
What is energy?
Originally posted by Annee
I would be LIVID!
I am a major proponent of separation of church and state.
I would at least inform the principle - - just for the purpose of it being on record in case there are other complaints.
It also comes from before the Bible was ever written.
What do you mean poor kid.
Originally posted by MaximinusThrax
reply to post by IrishCream
its a strange situation but exposing a person (your kid) to other beliefs is a good idea instead of keeping them in the dark or bashing what they might not understand ,it will make them a wiser and rounded person , enough so to make his own choices.
im curious do you celebrate christmas and easter and such?
Please do not assume (ass~u~me) that I don't expose my children to other beliefs! In fact, all of my children went to bible schools over the summer, they have attended services in Catholic churches, Evangelical churches and two of them have been to numerous Mormon services! Not to mention we celebrate, not just Christmas, but Chanukah and Kwanza! We diversify grately what our children are exposed to and are very adimant about their individuality as human beings, thank you!
However, the point is much more about the seperation of Church and State, also the possibility of offending other children and their family's beliefs!
that would be very contradictingedit on 28-1-2012 by MaximinusThrax because: edit
Originally posted by jerryznv
reply to post by Starchild23
It also comes from before the Bible was ever written.
Really? When was the bible written?
Probably long before Wikipedia...by the way...notice the A.D....that mean after the death of Christ...roughly 2012 years ago!
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by jerryznv
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by jerryznv
What should you quote when giving insperational points (anything but the Bible)?
Why is a counselor giving religious inspirational anything?
That is a violation of Church and State.
How about this. "There is no god - - we are all connected by energy. What we think creates. One must be aware of there thoughts and how it affects the energy whole."
I'm sure that is perfectly acceptable for a counselor to say. Don't you agree?
Poor kid...wait until he goes to college and is required to study intro to religion for his degree!
What is energy?
What do you mean poor kid.
That is a Spiritual belief. A child raised in that Spiritual belief - - would be very confused by someone reading bible verses to them.
It could be very harmful to a child raised with this Spiritual belief - - - to be disciplined with bible verses.
Reading bible verses is forcing a religion on a child - - - who may have a completely different concept of God.
It is wrong and harmful - - - and in violation of Church and State.
Originally posted by Starchild23
So if I were to quote Einstein's theory of relativity to you, you would be forced to adhere to that principle? The kid couldn't even remember the whole thing, let alone adopt Christianity.
Your argument is weak. [/quote
Using an Agnostic scientist and socialist as an argument against using religious text in public school.
Good one.
NO religious text belongs in public school.
Originally posted by intrepid
I don't see a beef here. If good advice is available I don't care if it comes from the bible, Playboy or Dr. Phil. Though you are probably going to get better advice from the first 2. This is not a case of religion being forced on someone. It advice being given from a religious text, which is probably universal.