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Obama says 'I don’t put people on food stamps'

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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 04:35 AM
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Obama said in an interview that the prior Bush administration made the Food Stamp eligibility easier.

But apparently, it was the 2009 Stimulus that did it,
and legislation that Bush vetoed twice and was overridden by Congress anyway.

What about job losses and unemployment ?


Clever with the wording

"First of all, I don't put people on food stamps," Obama said. "People become eligible for food stamps. Second of all, the initial expansion of food-stamp eligibility happened under my Republican predecessor, not under me. No. 3, when you have a disastrous economic crash that results in 8 million people losing their jobs, more people are going to need more support from government."



One major change in food stamp rules — in the direction of more generosity — occurred with the 2009 “stimulus” law, which has President Obama’s signature, not Bush’s.




Another major change in food stamp rules — in the direction of more generosity — occurred with the 2008 Farm Bill. We all know that Bush was president in 2008. But what Obama hopes you do not know is that Bush never signed it. Here’s wikipedia’s narrative:

On May 15, the House and Senate passed the bill, but President Bush issued a veto on May 21. The House voted to overturn the president’s veto shortly thereafter, and with the margins by which the bill was passed, a Senate override also occurred; so the Congress overrode the president’s veto, passing the bill into law (Public Law 110-234, the Food and Energy Security Act of 2007). However, the veto override was moot, as a 34-page section of the bill was omitted in the version sent to the White House. In effect, the President vetoed a bill Congress never considered. The bill had to be re-passed by Congress.

The House passed the Farm Bill again on May 22, and the Senate shortly thereafter. President Bush again vetoed the measure, but this veto was overridden in both Houses on June 18, so the Farm Bill in its entirety became law.

In summary, Bush vetoed that law twice.



And the Best Part

Meanwhile, Obama was a U.S. Senator in 2008. Senator Obama had THREE chances to vote against it, but he never did (he abstained all three times).....



Well Mr. POTUS ??

Which Is It ??


President and Senator Obama not Straight on Food Stamp Eligibility


Obama: Bush Is the Food Stamp President, Not Me




How Accurate Is All This ??




posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 04:44 AM
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Obama "I didn't do don't look at me, it was the other guy!"

Sad thing is if Obama gets 4 more years, then the next guy is just going to blame him instead of getting anything done. Its going to be an endless cycle of blame, with nobody taking any responsibility or action.
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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 04:50 AM
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Der xuenchen,

I am confused, I don't trust any politicians, there are not enough jobs, how many should starve? I can feed some and I do, we run a food pantry for the poor. I can only feed so many, how many should starve in a nation with an abundance of food? During the depression ranchers felt that they did not get enough for their milk so they poured it down the storm drains while people starved. The current choice is not between working or not, it is between having others help you or starve. I pay for many to not starve. How can anyone buy a Mercedes and let people starve, I sold mine, it was a 230 slk and sweet. Peace.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 04:54 AM
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Originally posted by AQuestion
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Der xuenchen,

I am confused, I don't trust any politicians, there are not enough jobs, how many should starve? I can feed some and I do, we run a food pantry for the poor. I can only feed so many, how many should starve in a nation with an abundance of food? During the depression ranchers felt that they did not get enough for their milk so they poured it down the storm drains while people starved. The current choice is not between working or not, it is between having others help you or starve. I pay for many to not starve. How can anyone buy a Mercedes and let people starve, I sold mine, it was a 230 slk and sweet. Peace.


No one should.

The politicians use this as a tool.

They may not actually care one way or the other.

It's the blaming and lying that are the problem.

Congress does very very little for the majority of citizens.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 04:55 AM
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Dear xuenchen,



It's the blaming and lying that are the problem. Congress does very very little for the majority of citizens.


Agreed. Peace.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 04:58 AM
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This year, more than 46 million (15% of all Americans) will get food stamps. … That’s 45% higher than when Obama took office, and twice as high as the average for the previous 40 years.


Welfare, food stamp rolls soar under Obama


According to the Census Bureau 49% now live in homes where at least one person gets a federal benefit — Social Security, workers comp, unemployment, subsidized housing, and the like. … That’s up from 44% the year before Obama took office, and way up from 1983, when fewer than a third were government beneficiaries.



Congress had the chance to fix these problems in 2009/2010 (111th Congress).

The committees were all under Dem control.

The majority suffered record losses from the legislation.

The politicians have let the corporations ship the jobs overseas.

There may not be a way out of this.





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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen

This year, more than 46 million (15% of all Americans) will get food stamps. … That’s 45% higher than when Obama took office, and twice as high as the average for the previous 40 years.


Welfare, food stamp rolls soar under Obama


According to the Census Bureau 49% now live in homes where at least one person gets a federal benefit — Social Security, workers comp, unemployment, subsidized housing, and the like. … That’s up from 44% the year before Obama took office, and way up from 1983, when fewer than a third were government beneficiaries.



Congress had the chance to fix these problems in 2009/2010 (111th Congress).

The committees were all under Dem control.

The majority suffered record losses from the legislation.

The politicians have let the corporations ship the jobs overseas.

There may not be a way out of this.





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Newt is right. Obama is the food stamp president.

He has added more people to the food stamp program than any other president in

the history of the United States.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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It stuns me that people make an issue of the number of people on foodstamps during the current administration. What did you people THINK was going to happen? We had historic job losses running up to January 2009 and then a huge increase in the length of time people remained unemployed. The vast majority of those people were clearly going to need assistance meeting their basic needs. People don't understand this or is this just another specious political argument?

job losses



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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Obama lost my support back in 2006 when he said he wasn't going to run. This was right after he did his speech for the Democratic National Convention. I admired him as a Senator in my state. He had potential, but then he went back on his word and made a power grab and ran. That told me right there he could not be trusted. He lacked the experience then and he lacks it now. He is the most ineffective president I have ever witnessed.

His relationship with congress is poor and he doesn't hide that fact. He isolates himself from congress leadership that really can make a good difference. They are far and few in between but they exist.

With all of that said, he has not surrounded himself with competent and capable people within the administration he resides in.

With the fact of all the mess he had to deal with that was left over from the Bush administration of 8 years and the coming financial devastation that the US encountered. He continues to do no good, whether it's his fault or those who oppose him.

It's my opinion that the man will remain in office for 4 more years and continue to be ineffective throughout the entire process.

With the GOP and Republican candidates available right now. I think the end result would remain the same.

Too much damn finger pointing instead of taking responsibility and being personally accountable and responsible for taking drastic steps to improve our Nation is a failure broadly sweeping the entire leadership of the federal government.
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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 09:59 AM
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and here are some "qualifications" for SNAP

Eligibility


They look at:

Resources

Income

Deductions

Employment Requirements

Special Rules for Elderly or Disabled

Immigrant Eligibility


It looks like a house is not considered as a resource.

own one and you still may qualify.

low income seems to be the factor.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by jtma508
It stuns me that people make an issue of the number of people on foodstamps during the current administration. What did you people THINK was going to happen? We had historic job losses running up to January 2009 and then a huge increase in the length of time people remained unemployed. The vast majority of those people were clearly going to need assistance meeting their basic needs. People don't understand this or is this just another specious political argument?

job losses



IF Obama would have grown the economy at 5% instead of 2% then there would be

more jobs and people would NOT require food stamps.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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You appear to be having a reading comprehension issue.

Obama said he doesn't put people on food stamps, they just become elgible. FACT.

Obama said the INITIAL expansion was under Bush. FACT.

Obama never said he hasn't also expanded the food stamp program. FACT.


Words mean things...but you have to have some comprehension to understand what they mean when combined together.
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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
You appear to be having a reading comprehension issue.

Obama said he doesn't put people on food stamps, they just become elgible. FACT.

Obama said the INITIAL expansion was under Bush. FACT.

Obama never said he hasn't also expanded the food stamp program. FACT.


Words mean things...but you have to have some comprehension to understand what they mean when combined together.
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Stay with the numbers.

Bush added 14.7 million people to the food stamp program over 8 years.

Obama has added over 15 million people in just 3 years!


Obama has added more Americans to the food stamp program than any other president
in the history of the United States. Obama is a disgrace.

Americans prefer independence.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
You appear to be having a reading comprehension issue.

Obama said he doesn't put people on food stamps, they just become elgible. FACT.

Obama said the INITIAL expansion was under Bush. FACT.

Obama never said he hasn't also expanded the food stamp program. FACT.


Food stamps increased under Bush 63%. FACT.

The economic collapse began in 2007-2008, that is the single greatest contributing factor to the increase in food stamp recipients under Obama. By late 2009 we were in a full blown recession bordering on a depression. We're still not out of the woods.

Now I wonder how many of those congressional Republicans who are calling Obama a "food stamp president" also voted for the Farm Bill that made eligibility easier?



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Bush added 14.7 million people to the food stamp program over 8 years.

Obama has added over 15 million people in just 3 years!


Obama has added more Americans to the food stamp program than any other president
in the history of the United States. Obama is a disgrace.


What part of "poverty" do you not understand? People are on food stamps because there is a recession, not because some president filled out an application for them. This is all a direct effect of the recession, the housing collapse, and the tripling of the deficit in the last ten years.



Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Americans prefer independence.


Yes, many impoverished single-parent families and out of work households prefer independence over food. I mean, shallow pride is way more important than feeding your toddler, am I right?



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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And if you really want to look for a root cause - 30 years of trickle-down economics and free trade agreements that wiped out manufacturing in the US. No jobs = more poverty.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Bush added 14.7 million people to the food stamp program over 8 years.

Obama has added over 15 million people in just 3 years!


Obama has added more Americans to the food stamp program than any other president
in the history of the United States. Obama is a disgrace.


What part of "poverty" do you not understand? People are on food stamps because there is a recession, not because some president filled out an application for them. This is all a direct effect of the recession, the housing collapse, and the tripling of the deficit in the last ten years.



Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Americans prefer independence.


Yes, many impoverished single-parent families and out of work households prefer independence over food. I mean, shallow pride is way more important than feeding your toddler, am I right?


We would soar out of this recession faster if Obama would stop attacking capitalism
everyday with suffocating regulations. Obama HATES capitalism.

It would also be a great idea if California lead the way out of this recession.
Unfortunately, the lunatics have taken over the asylum out there.
Socialism gone wild.

Not to worry. I see a solution for California.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
And if you really want to look for a root cause - 30 years of trickle-down economics and free trade agreements that wiped out manufacturing in the US. No jobs = more poverty.


I thought the jobs problem started when the bank/housing crash happened.

Prior to that, the free trade crap was lowering wages more than eliminating jobs as a whole IMO.

The Congress gave the money away and *Gulp*

They do need to get the industry back here.

Only Congress can do that. Where have they been ?



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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hey...have you people been locked up in a box for the last 4 years?....you are upset because people recieved food stamps?....please, all of you, go live in another country where all the people are rich, and the poor just die in the streets....maybe you'll be happy there.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyx
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hey...have you people been locked up in a box for the last 4 years?....you are upset because people recieved food stamps?....please, all of you, go live in another country where all the people are rich, and the poor just die in the streets....maybe you'll be happy there.


HEY.

I'm concerned about the reasons.

What might those be ?

Plus THAT, I am addressing the way the POTUS is (not) addressing the problem.
A fumbling stammering flimsy blame bush excuse does nothing for the taxpayers now does it ?

The national debt has been "boxed" in for 3 years now.....at record levels.

When will Obama & Congress address THAT ? Next decade or something ?

Get the Country Out of Debt !!




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