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Bankers requesting that Greece become their debt slaves

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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 04:18 AM
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The bankers/globalists who own the EU are behind this. And guess what, Greece is only the FIRST COUNTRY to be taken TOTALLY OVER by the bankers. It's coming to EVERYONE, INCLUDING Germany... or will they put the blame on Germany once more for WW3 in the future? Who knows...

The Silent Anschluss: Germany Formally Requests That Greece Hand Over Its Fiscal Independence

According to a Reuters exclusive, "Germany is pushing for Greece to relinquish control over its budget policy to European institutions [ZH: read ze Germans] as part of discussions over a second rescue package, a European source told Reuters on Friday." Reuters add: "There are internal discussions within the Euro group and proposals, one of which comes from Germany, on how to constructively treat country aid programs that are continuously off track, whether this can simply be ignored or whether we say that's enough," the source said.'

At that point Goldman will merely appoint one of its retired partners as Greek president and Greece will become the first 21st century German, pardon, European colony. But at least it will have its precious euro. We can't wait until Greek citizens find out about this quiet coup.


The declaration :

A budget commissioner has to be appointed by the Eurogroup with the task of ensuring budgetary control. He must have the power a) to implement a centralized reporting and surveillance system covering all major blocks of expenditure in the Greek budget, b) to veto decisions not in line with the budgetary targets set by the Troika and c) will be tasked to ensure compliance with the above mentioned rule to prioritize debt service.

The new surveillance and institutional approach should be formulated in the MoU as follows: “In the case of non-compliance, confirmed by the ECB, IMF and EU COM, a new budget commissioner appointed by the Eurogroup would help implementing reforms. The commissioner will have broad surveillance competences over public expenditure and a veto right against budget decisions not in line with the set budgetary targets and the rule giving priority to debt service.” Greece has to ensure that the new surveillance mechanism is fully enshrined in national law, preferably through constitutional amendment.

Let me say it again :

RULE GIVING PRIORITY TO DEBT SERVICE

Aka, YOU PAY THE BANKERS FIRST. This is DEBT SLAVERY. Greece CANNOT pay their debts. EVER. It's debt slavery FOR ETERNITY... (until revolution that is)


Update 2: the first local headlines are coming in now, from Spiegel: Griechenland soll Kontrolle über Haushalt abgeben (loosely Greece must give up domestic control), and Kathimerini: Germany proposes Greece relinquish some fiscal powers, sources say


And if you think this won't happen because Greece ``won't default`` think again :
Endgame Begins - UK "Foreign Office Sources Say Merkel Now Thinks Greece Will Default"

The Greek military must overthrow the Greek government and arrest them for high treason if the government accepts this crap. Then Greece must get the hell out of the EU and arrest the bankers who screwed Greece then send them to jail or execute them for high treason.

Enough is enough.
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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 04:37 AM
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Ah world war 3 might have justed kicked off and the Germanys behind it? Of course there won't be tanks or missiles or any boots on the ground. No sir, todays modern wars are fought with the all mighty dollar. Germany takes Greece, not with a military but with a credit card. Same might Happen to America.

However it might just end right here right now, It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out. America pretty get our Economy together or would could be subjected to a Hostile take-over or even a merger!



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 05:25 AM
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This is no different to an insolvent company handing over monetery control to an administrator or receiver, or a bankrupt individual handing over control to a trustee in bankruptcy.

Standard protocol in most countries.

Individuals who are bankrupt can eventually gain credit quite quickly.

Be careful not to read anything in to this that is not already standard protocol in insolvency laws around the world.


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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 05:40 AM
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Oh yes it is. It's a country. Not a company. Not a person. You don't become slaves because your government are a bunch of corrupt bastards.

Greece should hang their treasonous leaders and treasonous bankers. And whoever doesn't like it can go lick the boots of the bankers in Brussels.

And all the retards who invested in Greek bonds, guess what, you made a bad investment, YOU LOSE YOUR MONEY, PERIOD.
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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 06:33 AM
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Greece and every other nation in the EU is losing its political power as the larger regional EU entity grows. With the common currency of the Euro, whoever owns the printing presses is top dog. Greece will be able to maintain some sovereignty, similar to the relationship between a state or province and a nation. It is going to take a lot of support from all the EU countries to challenge the ideas that come down the EU pipeline. Short of withdrawing from the EU, getting some quality and realistic consideration on what is proposed is a win as it will take some time and debate to clearly define the roles between the EU and its members.

By focusing this issue on Greece it does look like a divide and conquer campaign to get the legislation through, then apply to all its members with a precedent set. With Greece's and the other members capability to control their own economy diminishing some form of EU economic management is going to be needed to keep the Euro stable.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 09:07 AM
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Maybe its time for the Greeks to gather up all the traitors and line them up one by one and a bullet betwwen the eyes, blindfolded. Let one banker and government traitor go so he can spread the word



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 10:00 AM
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This is preposterous. Greece must default. It must write all the debt off and leave the EURO.

You only get this kind of insanity when EU dogma prevents the obvious only workable solution from being followed.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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Well Greece can't have it both ways.

It can't keep spending money it doesn't have then expect everyone else in the Eurozone to pay for it all. Their politicians have shown themselves completely incapable of running their own finances.

So the decision for them is very simple. Concentrate your minds, act responsibly and pay your own debts. If you can't handle that ... yet still want to stay in the Euro ... then voluntarily relinquish control of your nation's finances to those who can put it back in order (that's the very same people you expect to bail you out).

And if you can't do that ... get the hell out of the Euro. Because the convoy's leaving the stragglers behind.

As to what you say about advocating a coup, stringing people up from lamp posts etc ... get a grip.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 10:24 AM
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The kind of money that Greece earns a year is not enough to pay off even the debt installments, more so in these hard times, even if greeks are taxed to the hilt.

What will greeks live on? Education cut down, healthcare limited, military trimmed, etc. Nothing grews in the end, so much that it may end up the EU AND the World may have to give aid to fellow humans in Greece, the way it is happening now in Africa.

If the EU thinks it will have productive slaves, think again. The young will flee once the auterity drives deepens, leaving the old whom may not be able to lift even stones and will be in dire need of medical care.

Will Greece be partitioned up and sold in pieces to richer nations such as China, Russia, Turkey, Arabia, Asian states? Probably, as the bankers are in dire need to balance their bank sheets or fall.

Only thing for certain is, it will only pass on that day of Greece Independence tragedy to the buyers, whom will face the brunt of bloody uprisings when the greek dispora returns. But then, the bankers will be laughing away, enjoying their foie gras and Louis 13 in the French Rivera.

There is a solution to all these problems. Debts must be paid and can be paid, if only more time for the greek economy to grow first, rather than pay debts first. You dont kill the golden geese that lays the eggs, chaining it to a post with little or no feed. Let it expand, roam free, grow a bit more fatter and live longer, so that the eggs will continue to be laid.

But I doubt if anyone cares. Bloodshed and chaos in the name of greed rules this age.....



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by LeBombDiggity
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Well Greece can't have it both ways.

It can't keep spending money it doesn't have then expect everyone else in the Eurozone to pay for it all. Their politicians have shown themselves completely incapable of running their own finances.

So the decision for them is very simple. Concentrate your minds, act responsibly and pay your own debts. If you can't handle that ... yet still want to stay in the Euro ... then voluntarily relinquish control of your nation's finances to those who can put it back in order (that's the very same people you expect to bail you out).

And if you can't do that ... get the hell out of the Euro. Because the convoy's leaving the stragglers behind.

As to what you say about advocating a coup, stringing people up from lamp posts etc ... get a grip.


They should leave. The politicians won't allow it. The bailout has nothing to do with helping the citizens of greece and all about protecting those external debt holders who made bad investments and should lose out.

Rather than admit Euro failure and let them leave they are going to put the entire nation into debt bondage.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 12:10 PM
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Greece gov said that this proposal is "out of the question".



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by Recollector
Greece gov said that this proposal is "out of the question".

Well they lie.

Just wait till Greece actually defaults or is near default in March and see what happens.

Greece Politely Declines German Annexation Demands

GREEK GOVERNMENT SPOKESMAN DECLARES THAT THE BUDGET IS SOLELY ITS RESPONSIBILITY - DJ

Till the situation is ``so bad we have to do it even if most people are against it``...
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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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As to what you say about advocating a coup, stringing people up from lamp posts etc ... get a grip.

Oh really? What do you think the Greek should do once their corrupt government sign them off as slaves? Take it like good little sheep?? You think elections are gonna fix this? You think protests are gonna fix this?

Find me one REALISTIC PEACEFUL solution to this? I would say country wide strikes till the government goes down for good and the country is out of the euro and the debt thrown out... but guess it's not very likely to happen.

When people want to make you SLAVES, you don't bow down to them, you arrest them and put them to death like they ought to be for being the worst kind of human beings.

These are ENSLAVERS, just like Hitler, Stalin and Mao were. They deserve a bullet in the head.

Greece, and every country for that matter, needs to go into unlimited strike until an ``Iceland`` is pulled and the bankers and their puppets are arrested and put to jail forever.
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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 05:10 PM
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It is not different at all, like I said its a standard procedure around the world regardless of the entity involved.

So you are saying that the EU is going to make slaves of the Greek people? The EU is going to make the Greek people work for no wages? You really think this is going to happen?

And as for the traitorous Greek politicians they put their country in to insolvency by spending all the borrowed money on the Greek people themselves ie retirement pensions at age 54. Hardly sounds traitorous......
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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by Krusty the Klown
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So you are saying that the EU is going to make slaves of the Greek people? The EU is going to make the Greek people work for no wages? You really think this is going to happen?



Not in so stark terms no. But they will be forced to service an untenable debt for the foreseeable future leading to a total impoverishment of the nation and decades of misery. The assets of the nation will be sold.

They should say '&^%$ off' and walk away from the debt. Re-adopt the drachma at a massive devaluation and grow their way out.

Iceland shows the way.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 07:59 PM
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Says you "Debts must be paid. Debts have to be paid." I say shove it up your butt. Let Goldman Sachs eat skata (thats Greek for you know what, malaka).

Greece was chosen by the cabal because they gave the finger to Israel and were one of the first to recognize Arafat as the state representative of Palestine. They've had a target on their backs for decades. That's why ridiculous amounts of money were lent to them.

The bankers knew exactly what they were doing when they lent the money. The Greek way of life is to live for today tomorrow will take care of itself. Thats why prior to the disease of usury washing over its shores like a bloom of deadly red algae, personal credit was unheard of in Greece everybody paid cash for cars, houses and property

Those filthy, greedy satanists from Goldman Sach have already chosen their private islands and think its game over. They've got a little surprise in store for them. Nothing is worse than a mad Greek. Just ask the German vets of WW2.

A takeover that should have taken the Italians a couple of weeks, dragged on for months. By the time the Germans had to interrupt the invasion of stallingrad, the Greeks were rushing armored platoons with daggers hoping to sink a blade into the face of the enemy before being shot in front of their families.

This ain't over. Not even close. The media can try to "soften them up" with all the neuro linguistic BS they got. When it dawns on the Greeks the bill is due, they will form Limited Exchange of Merchandise and Services (LEMS) and start sharpening their daggers.

The first bloated banker won't knew what hit him when he mistakes the bitterness of strychnine for retsina wine.

There must be a better way?



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 02:14 AM
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Not in so stark terms no. But they will be forced to service an untenable debt for the foreseeable future

Not the foreseeable future. Forever.

They want this to be put into the CONSTITUTION as an amendment.

Debt slavery to the banks FOREVER into the constitution.

So if it passes, it's SLAVERY TO THE BANKERS UNTIL REVOLUTION.

Simple as that.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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It's Official: German Economy Minister Demands Surrender Of Greek Budget Policy, Says It Is First Of Many Such Sovereign "Requests"

Philipp Roesler became the first German cabinet member to openly endorse a proposal for Greece to surrender budget control after Reuters quoted a European source on Friday as saying Berlin wants Athens to give up budget control."

A government source in Berlin said Germany's proposal was aimed not just at Greece but also at other struggling euro zone members that receive aid and are unable to make good on their obligations.

All hail the Fourth Reich!

Germany needs some financial Lebensraum!
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posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 03:26 AM
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Philipp Rösler is a joke. He's the Federal Chairman of the FDP, our liberal party, which currently polls around 3% and probably won't even make it back into the Bundestag in 2013. He is trying to make his mark by saying extreme things like that.

I'm getting tired of the anti-German rhetoric when it comes to the €uro Zone.
You've said it yourself in the OP: "The bankers/globalists who own the EU are behind this."
Our current government does not correctly represent the German public on this topic.

Don't believe me? Maybe Mr. Nigel Farage's word has more weight than mine. A good interview overall.


(The part about Germany starts around 6:10)


"... or will they put the blame on Germany once more..."
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posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 03:35 AM
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It seems they already have i am watching CNN and BNN.



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