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reply posted on 28-1-2012 @ 02:24 AM by halfoldman
reply to post by blamethegreys


Well cultures in SA are very mixed, so while an argument regarding SA as a monolithic "culture" may be well intentioned, this view is in reality over-simplistic.

Besides, the main agitators against the adult right to view purchased porn were from a US inspired "Family Institute".

They are modeled on, and connected to American Fundamentalist Christians.

We have very vocal groups on this issue, but they may not represent a silent majority.
I think in this case some feminists joined with our religious right.

But this may not remain the case.


reply posted on 28-1-2012 @ 02:42 AM by halfoldman
The most vociferous organized "popular voice" came from followers of Pastor Errol Naidoo of the Family Policy Institute. They represent people from a vast network of churches, ministries and evangelists in SA.
However, many of their followers may also practice African spirituality - something that is referred to generally as "witchcraft"- but they largely ignore this.

So I guess this is our official culture now?

www.joymag.co.za...
www.joymag.co.za...

So moral - one could swear we were the holiest people on earth.
Clearly that's how they must act to get some funds, which clashes with our human rights culture, but it is fair to say that mega-churches are now a part of the "shadow government".

Zuma reportedly said on the weekend that to vote for the ANC was to choose heaven, while a vote for the opposition amounted to choosing "hell".


mg.co.za...

And so I see people corrupted, without any moral benefit, or any real voice.
Lesbian women are raped in "corrective rapes" in epidemic proportions; women are harassed for wearing pants and short dresses (from cultures that still went virtually naked in the rural areas a decade or so back).
There is a shadow reality coupled with a fake morality.

This is a judgement in a context of vice without boundaries.
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reply posted on 28-1-2012 @ 03:17 AM by halfoldman
reply to post by Lucifersjester


On the other hand, I can remember SA pre-1994, and porn was banned.

The cops could raid your house for porn.

Yet porn was freely available - although it was a copy of a copy, with hippie women and yucky, greasy hair.

Where does restriction stop?
Would you like to see your kid with a criminal record for porn possession?

Most of these religious groups have already said they want an Internet filter to stop all porn in SA. That's probably not feasible, but that's what these people demand.


reply posted on 28-1-2012 @ 05:13 AM by halfoldman
reply to post by Mcupobob


Well. we have a great constitution (it was even often called the most advanced and liberal in the world), and we should have total freedom of speech outside direct hate speech.

Yet, we've actually witnessed significant double-standards regarding free speech, and hate speech.

There was never a race war in SA, although there were sporadic ethnic clashes (mainly between African tribes and parties).

There is a concern that a race war may come in future, but ultimately there are 4 million whites and 50 million blacks.
A proportion of those blacks are immigrants and refugees from other African countries.

One concern is that the ruling ANC were Marxist terrorists (who performed a big publicity stunt amongst Western liberals centered on Mandela), and that they are clamping down slowly but surely on free speech.
Their support for the Zimbabwean dictator Robert Mugabe is short of gushing.
We already have the dreaded info bill in the pipeline.

There are already threads on some of those issues on ATS, but for me a conflation of religion, politics and censorship is not a good sign.

PS. Right2Know protest in Cape Town against the ANC "Secrecy Bill" (October 2011), including dissent from some of their own stalwarts:


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