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Originally posted by network dude
excellent thread. I see you didn't even mention Stan Meyer, but his little world may well have been a hoax. I am a bit confused as to how Honda could make a CRX HF in 1986 that got 54 miles to the gallon, but now cannot do any better than 40MPG without battery assist.
I'm sorry... I assumed ALL of your answers in this thread were some kind of cutting avant garde sarcasm...
Oh, those were SERIOUS answers!
There are countless 'graduates' with all kinds of advanced degrees that graduate EVERY year.
What exactly is their contribution to the cause? Fairly close to nil.
Is that simple enough for you?
The discussion originated by the OP had to do with normally aspirated engines. Those engines are notoriously inefficent...
Let's focus on the real standard which would be extracting as much of the usable energy out of a gallon of gasoline as possible. Simple enough?
You somehow seem convinced that since most 'modern' engines now use fuel-injection systems that we have suddenly... automagically entered some new golden age (of engineering? ).
That's kind of funny.
The efficiencies that have been gained are marginal at best
Most of the observations made by your thread mates have dealt with attempts to increase the vaporization rate of the fuel, which is the major defect in these engines (including **cou fuel-injection gh*** )
Say... Isn't that why they 'invented' catalytic converters?
You know... Cuz the engines were dumping the raw unconsumed fuel out the exhaust system? You know eco-hazard and all that stuff... Even in the automagic 'fuel-injected' systems.
Originally posted by maestromason
The energy potential of gasoline is limited! As a fuel, gasoline is one of the dirtiest most inefficient fuels. The octanes available even with today's most "energy efficient" engines are no where close to giving anything near 100MPG.
Look at your fuel source which is refined oil cracked to different grades of hydro-carbons. The energy density of gasoline is no where near the energy density of most high energy density metals like Lithiu
Anyone with a mediocre knowledge -base of Chemistry knows this.
Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
I saw this title and thought about something dad said to me about this over 30 years ago.
He worked for general motors for 25 plus years.. and we talked cars often, I remember him
mentioning this carb that was developed that achieved that kind of mileage. The entire story
is a bit fuzy, but i do remember him saying the man that came up with the idea was kinda forced
sell his rights to the carb..funny how greed always works its way in..
Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by autowrenchI am a long time auto mechanic, spent 38 odd years under the hood. I remember cars that got 60 mpg out of the factory, I had a 1960 Plymouth Valiant with a slant 6 that did that.
Why do you lie so much?
It is clear the Valiant never got 60 mpg, not even close. I challenge you to find something that supports your ludicrous position...
But I know you won't, as you spend most of your time lying to people on ATS trying to convince them in something that doesn't exist; (HHO) as it were...