reply to post by The X
I believe you do not understand the concept of altruism.
I understand the concept of altruism. The problem is that the concept does not beget the mechanics and/or the means thereof.
Basically - you can sit up there and preach "you should do things to help each other out" all you want to. It's no different than preaching that
we all need to seek to understand each other and get rid of prejudices.
None of that actually postulates how to go about doing it.
The good of Humanity is measured in how we treat each other and what is available for those who do not function very well in a monetary
economy, this is then for the greater good of humanity.
Those who don't function well in a monetary economy?
Function is function. Those who cannot function are of little value to the whole. That may come off as very cold and blunt - but it's the truth.
We have been dulled by the illusion of control we currently have due to the wonders of technology and society... but we are continually in a survival
situation - whether we realize it or not.
There are predators in any system. As a member of the military - I know all-too well of the abuses of non-monetary systems. The Military is a
perfect example of the benefits and hazards of "moneyless" communities. It doesn't matter whether you "work smart" or "work hard." It
doesn't matter if you get the job done in ten minutes, or four hours. It also doesn't matter if you do it, or someone else does (unless you are
specifically instructed to do something).
Because of this, there are quite a few people who simply cruise right along - doing just enough to require an act of congress to get them kicked out,
but never motivated to do anything of their own accord.
Now - the military has a few saving graces; those types often don't get promoted, or stall at certain ranks. They reach high-year tenure and are
ineligible for reenlistment - thus the military doesn't serve as a cradle-to-grave system for them to live off of (just a decade or more on the good
graces of tax payers).
And that's the reality. You have what you do because someone else made it and was willing to exchange it for money. You get money because you are
willing to contribute your skills, time, and efforts to some task.
Money is an altruistic concept - a way of accounting for how many people's backs you've scratched.
It's not perfect and has ways it can be exploited - but it remains far superior to mythological systems where we all simply do things "just
The "flaw" is operator-induced, not system-induced.
Not everything is dollars and cents.
No. But everything comes with a price. You sound like the type that would "never kill for money" - until you realize what you could do with that
I'm not ashamed to admit - there are things that I would trade a human life for. For someone I consider to be a hazard to others - the offer
wouldn't have to be much more than what I considered to be compensation for the risk of legal complications. For someone I cherish - it would have
to be something beyond what I can currently conceive (anyone that could offer me something so great would be preferable to kill over someone I love...
so the problem is self-prioritizing).
But all costs are relative to a person's needs and supplies. Even in a money-less system of altruism; you will be constantly evaluating how much
something is to you versus how much good your actions can do (or... will something do more good in another's hands? You only have so many you can
Altruistic tendencies create social good, in a myriad of ways, it is also what our political morons are lacking in, the cremation of care
ceremony is literally a burning of any sense of social responsibility and any feelings of care for the harm you cause.
The problem with this philosophy is that it attempts to establish polarity in a morally relative system. It attempts to establish a victim and/or
criminal. The problem is that there is no clear cut line in economic, social, or any other abstract of human relationships.
It's a realization I've come to after studying human behavior for a long time. People get upset and act irrationally when they feel hurt by the
actions of another. Which usually leads to another person feeling hurt or upset. It is rare for a person to genuinely be pathological in a
relationship (of any kind) that collapses - it's merely people failing to understand that another person does care (else they wouldn't get
It's the same in economics, business, etc. People do what they do and get frustrated when others don't seem to respect that.