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How Hard Is It, Understand MONEY ?

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posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 08:28 PM
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HOW hard is it to understand ?
Issuing money with debt attached can only lead to misery !
The debt can NEVER be repaid !
PLEASE people of the world WAKE THE FECK UP !
Please think !
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posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 08:41 PM
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If my government (UK) was printing the Pounds (instead of the Bank of England) they would let me borrow at the same rate ! IE. 'can I borrow 10pounds' yes ! How much do I pay back ? '10pounds' ! Thats how it works !
The bank of England and the Federal Reserve works like this ! 'Can I borrow 10pounds ?' Yes, but we want 10 pounds and 10pence in return ! ????? Where the feck do I or anyone get that 10p from when the only ones issuing the money is the Bank of England or the Federal Reserve ????? WAKE UP !

How hard is it ?

Peace



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 08:54 PM
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3 stars and no comments wot the frick ?
It is THE route of the EVERY problem in the World !
THINK ?


Peace !



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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Okay no=one can even join the dots ?
I give up ! ATS is fooked !


My confidence broken ! Night night !

Someone once said 'money is the route of all evil' !

They were right !
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posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by ProRipp
Mods if you want to move this fair enough ?

HOW hard is it to understand ?
Issuing money with debt attached can only lead to misery !
The debt can NEVER be repaid !
PLEASE people of the world WAKE THE FECK UP !
Please think !
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I see what you mean ! Who issues the money and what is it that backs up that money? Not so long ago $1 was backed up by the government having $1 in gold stashed away. Today that gold is nowhere to be seen and doesn't need to be held by the government because $1 in paper currency is not backed up by $1 worth of gold anymore. So when the Federal Reserve issues $1 or $1,000,000 in currency to the US government or the banks, just what is it that allows then to do so? On what strength of what material or liquid or whatever Is that money created. What secures the issuance of that money?

Guess it's secured by the interest (debt) that will be collected from the government or banks. The banks which in turn receive interest from consumers unless the Federal Reserve is charging the government and banks more interest than the banksters can collect from us which I'm guessing is not the case. The banksters are collecting more interest on the money borrowed from the Federal Reserve than the Federal Reserve is collecting from the banks.

But that still doesn't answer the question of what secures the issuance Of the money in the first place.

So the "I see what you mean" now becomes "what do you mean" when you say "Issuing money with debt attached can only lead to misery ! The debt can NEVER be repaid !"?



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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Yes thank you for reply ! The only reserve now is the labour ! US, WE the people !
Money is issued as debt now simply to ENSLAVE us !


Peace



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:20 PM
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posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by ProRipp
3 stars and no comments wot the frick ?
It is THE route of the EVERY problem in the World !
THINK ?


Peace !


No! it comes in a close third behind religion and famine



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:26 PM
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I think not ? Famine ?
Research !
Famine could be eradicated EASILY !

But thank you for your input !

Peace



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:34 PM
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If you watch this substitute Fed Reserve for Bank of England ?



They make it up as they want !
10% today 14% tomorrow !
WAKE UP !

Peace



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:58 PM
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Pro

Good thread .
Unfortunately ;
People on the whole are not that into truth about money creation process and it's implications .



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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Thank you mate ! I'm beginning to see now that everyone is happy !
Being a SLAVE !

I could weep for the world !
No, I DO weep for the world !

Peace



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by ProRipp
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I think not ? Famine ?
Research !
Famine could be eradicated EASILY !

But thank you for your input !

Peace


Oh YOU think not.. just as well its only YOU.
While your on your crusade to save the world from lending a dollar you may as well also tell that to the starving that YOU know how to eradicate their hunger problems "EASILY"

You must also be able to resolve DROUGHT on your passing by..

Here is some RESEARCH for YOU


Did you know POVERTY is the main contributor of Famine. If you have poverty guess what you have little or no income = MONEY if these people had MONEY or items to trade they would not be in such a predicament.

besides all this here are some links for you to contact,they will be pleased that you know how to end famine "EASILY"

Action Against Hunger (AAH)
www.aah-usa.org...

CARE
www.careusa.org...

Caritas Internationalis
www.caritas.org...

Food For The Hungry International (FHI)
www.fh.org...

Oxfam
www.oxfam.org...

you can get a full list here
www.globalcorps.com...

Cheers





posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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So, I guess what your trying to say here is
You don't understand MONEY and the way it is distributed ?


Peace !



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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Right it's very very late , gone 4am in UK so I will leave you with this !
Money issued as debt , can NEVER be repaid !
Work it out ?

If I am the bank. The ONLY bank, and I say heres 10 pounds/dollars but I want 10 pounds and 10p back !
Where are you gonna get that 10p from ?

It can NEVER be paid back !

Simples !

Peace and goodnight !



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 12:52 AM
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I understand it, its dark side inequality and scarsity. I don't support hellzones and pyramid systems.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 03:06 AM
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The bank of England and the Federal Reserve works like this ! 'Can I borrow 10pounds ?' Yes, but we want 10 pounds and 10pence in return ! ????? Where the feck do I or anyone get that 10p from when the only ones issuing the money is the Bank of England or the Federal Reserve ????? WAKE UP !


This is only one aspect of the economy, if you want 10 pounds get a job and you don't have to pay anyone back.

I do agree with parts of your ideas though and like Shari Law with how charging interest is illegal. The disconnection between government and the printing of money is a big problem. How the government can end up in debt to its own printing presses is pretty dumb.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 03:17 AM
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NO!
NO, money is not the cause and root of all evil.
That is a flawed and extremely simplistic way of looking at things.
Money is a tool for the facilitation of trade.
It makes things easier.
It is a godsend.
What is wrong, is borrowing money in the names on many, without any supervision, and plans, and being unable to pay it back.
It is irresponsible.
But nothing to do with money.

If you really want to know what is at the root of todays problems, it is intelligence, or rather the relevance of a dualistic way of thinking.
This causes self repetition, and lashing out, such as conspiricies, money, etc.
It also causes bad government, corrupt governments, and the collusion of big companies (and religion) and states, forcing the view and agenda of some onto the many.
But not an issue of money.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 04:09 AM
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Generations of media programming of the masses to believe promissory notes are money because they have fancy government logos on them... Been preaching it for years but few care much less understand.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 04:12 AM
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how can a tool (money) be the cause of all evil?
why not a laptop then?
its what people do with that tool that matters.



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