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Originally posted by soulwaxer
Here's a way of looking at it, at least if you're a parent: Who would you send your kids to for a two-week holiday? I have no doubt that I would send them to Ron Paul.
Ok. When was the last time that something got better because of voting?
So ultimately your argument is based on fear of being alone?
I'm not too young to know how politics work. I know enough about politics to know it's all bull, and don't shy away from that fact. I'm not in America, but, I bet I know more about the American voting system than the average joe. I'm definitely not too old because I'm in my 20s.
Really? When was the last time we did an experiment where no one voted?
Then I'm not wasting my time to explain something to someone who has already decided that I'm wrong without properly looking at the arguments and is begging the question. I'll just refer you to my sig, and this will be my last reply to you. I will still ask questions if the opportunities arise.
Originally posted by Gorman91
I am not wasting 28 minutes of my life on something which has already been establish that you are not correct.
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by macaronicaesar
He is completely in bed with his banking masters from Goldman Sachs, wake up. He cares no more about you than Newt/Mitt. He is a 100% bought and paid for president as they all are. There is no choice, only the illusion of choice, there is no lesser evil or any of that nonsense, they all play for the same team and you're not apart of it.edit on 28-1-2012 by macaronicaesar because: (no reason given)
So then, if it doesn't matter at all, I'll just vote for him because he's not an idiot or a psychopath, like Mitt and Newt respectively. Also, his winning freaks out the fundies and the crackers, and makes people like you froth with fear and loathing. That's plenty enough reason for me to vote for him. If I get a cookie tossed my way as a result of his being re-elected, the that'll be okay too. I don't expect anything from anyone, but I'll be goddamned if I'll vote for a babbling fool like Romney or a megalomaniacal bag of gas like Gingrich. You go ahead and do what you like, but don't try and convince me to allow either of those freaks to drive this bus. No way.edit on 1/28/2012 by NorEaster because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AuranVector
Originally posted by CaptChaos
It is horrifying to see how retarded the general public is, and how they are falling for this Punch and Judy show.
Isn't it strange that the GOP cannot field any candidate that is even remotely qualified? Just a gang of incompetent crooks. Therefore, the entire herd of idiots will "vote" for the existing robot, because that is what TPTB want you to do.
And why are there so many people saying, "Ron Paul is the best candidate, but HE CAN'T WIN so I will vote for the Obamination." If all those people would actually VOTE for him he could win. But the TV tells you not to "waste your vote" on him. Because, even if he wins the election for real, Obama will still be proclaimed the "winner" no matter what. And then the fraud would become too evident. But Ron Paul is simply controlled opposition, to make those that are somewhat aware of the swindle think that they actually have some say in the matter.
No one can defeat King Obama. Resistance is futile. You will be Obamanated. Might as well vote for him anyway, the selection has already been made. That way you morons will think your vote means something.
Good post. I agree. TPTB have already decided to keep Obama in for their own purposes. I don't trust Ron Paul at all. It just amazes me that there are so many Obama & Ron Paul supporters on ATS.
It's true the Ron Paul supporters are delusional, but I can respect their reaching for real change. But the Obama supporters....
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by piett
When will people finaly understand that to vote for the "lesser evil" is just plain stupid !!
You should vote for the one you want to represent you. If you dislike the candidates of both side (which should be normal, considering this 2 party paradgigm) than voe for a third party ! Or make a write-in and vote for yourself..
But voting Obama just because the GOP candidates are lame in you view is not intelligent and makes no sense. Obama will be re-elected and the majority of the people will not support him (despite havng voted for him in your case).
Unless you vote for a third party you sgould not complain about either of two big parties..
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You worked the 2000 Bush campaign, didn't you? All the Nader promoters in that election put Bush in the WH, and some of them never learned their lesson. Too bad, because so far we've lost at least 10 trillion dollars over that idiotic 3rd party strategy, and where is Nader? Nowhere, that's where. And he never even stayed in the effort to preserve any form of Progressive movement in this country. He just walked off like the pussy that he is and always has been.
3rd party protest votes are like breaking up with a girlfriend before she gets fed up enough with you to break up with you. It's childish and pathetic, and nothing ever comes of it. No grown-ups ever waste their vote like that. Only college freshmen and other rookies at life.
Do what you want, but don't think you're doing anything to improve anything for the rest of us by trying to convince people to walk off on their one tiny part in helping our recovery come about. It's voter suppression, and nothing more, and this society needs as many voting this time around as possible and legal.
What is your reaction to each of the following:
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by vasaga
Obama ended bloody wars and shifted to empowering people to manage their own nations.
On July 7, 2011, U.S. troop deaths from the war in Afghanistan since President Obama took office reached 1,000. That means that nearly two-thirds of the U.S. fatalities in the war in Afghanistan have occurred during the Obama administration, which has managed the war for a mere quarter of its duration.
Ok. Show me the correct data then? Until you can, this stands as Bush being better than Obama, whether you like it or not.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by vasaga
HA! This graph willingly takes out Bush's first two years, and Obama's third and forth year.
You cannot compare unless you get ALL the data. You know, when Obama's policies first started going into effect, and when Bush's first two years of economic inheritance had him down too?
pff. Don't try to trick someone with statistics. It only works on people without keen eyes.edit on 28-1-2012 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)edit on 28-1-2012 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by abovesecret
anyone who votes for obama should be charged with treason bottom line no second line needed
but to be like all the other ats posters...2nd line!
Originally posted by David9176
Times change...opinions change.
First: Quite frankly, all the Republican candidates are complete disasters...yes, i know many here are Ron Paul supporters, but it is simply not possible for Ron Paul to win the nomination....and should he have become a threat...you'd see what happened to Gingrich happen to him. The establishment will get what it wants...that's how it is for the GOP.edit on 27-1-2012 by David9176 because: (no reason given)