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Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by jerryznv
Looks like a map a 10 year old did with his crayon!
Some supposed "insider" released this map...and that is the best he could do?
Looks ridiculous to me!
Oh good grief... there are several threads on that system here at ATS
The data and map come from the RAND corporation PDFs available at DTIC (Defense Technical Information Center) and that map was also published in the LA times in 1972
I could link the threads for you but what is the point? You wouldn't look anyway
Originally posted by zorgon
ATS used to be the premiere conspiracy site... stories like this made this the come to place to speculate on ideas like this, Now its more like debunker central and the fun of looking and speculating is gone.
Even YOU used to be into it... Pity that
1972
Defense Technical Information Center
Accession Number: ADA032172
Citation Status: ACTIVE
Title: The Very High Speed Transit System,
Fields and Groups : 130600 - SURFACE TRANSPORTATION AND EQUIPMENT
Corporate Author: RAND CORP SANTA MONICA CALIF
Personal Author(s): Salter,R. M.
Report Date: AUG 1972
Media Count: 19 Pages(s)
Report Number(s): P-4874 (P4874)
Descriptors:
*TRANSPORTATION, MAGNETIC FIELDS, SUPERCONDUCTORS, TUNNELS, DRIVES, VEHICLES, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, ENERGY CONSERVATION, ELECTROMAGNETISM, ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT.ZTRANSPORTATION, MAGNETIC FIELDS, SUPERCONDUCTORS, TUNNELS, DRIVES, VEHICLES, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, ENERGY CONSERVATION, ELECTROMAGNETISM, ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT.Z
Identifiers:
*Magnetically levitated vehicles, *Tubetrains, *Very high speed transit systems
Abstract:
The Very High Speed Transit or 'VHST' concept was put forward some years ago in response to the search for a pollution-free transport method that could operate at speeds competitive with aircraft. The general principles are relatively straightforward: Electromagnetically levitated and propelled cars in an evacuated tunnel. The VHST's 'tubecraft' ride on, and are driven by, electromagnetic (EM) waves much as a surfboard rides the ocean's waves. The EM waves are generated by pulsed or by oscillating currents in electrical conductors that form the 'roadbed' structure in the evacuated 'tubeway.' Opposing magnetic fields in the vehicle are generated by means of a loop of superconducting cable carrying on the order of a million amperes of current. The system is highly conservative of energy. Economic, environmental and technical aspects are briefly considered.
Distribution Limitation(s): 01 - APPROVED FOR PUBLIC RELEASE
Source Code: 296600
Document Location: DTIC AND NTIS
Geopolitical Code: 0628
Supplementary Notes: Previously announced as N73-13990.
Citation Updated: 06 MAR 2002
Distribution Statement : APPROVED FOR PUBLIC RELEASE
Members of the public may purchase hardcopy documents from the National Technical Information Service.
Actually, the map is pretty sophisticated.
Originally posted by jerryznv
reply to post by COconspiracyguy
Actually, the map is pretty sophisticated.
Actually...no it's not!
Maps of any kind usually (certainly ones from the government) contain certain features like a compass...scale size...labels, etc...this is a poor representation of anything...it's terrible!
Google some images of maps from 1800...ten times better than this!
And since you are making a great effort to debunk this thread, which I for one find on point, I find your opinion less convincing.
Originally posted by Jiggyfly
5. Mason plate. Crazy. Could be some sick joke, knowing people would buzz a ton if they put New World Airport Commission on it. Kind of a big, masonic middle finger to the conspiracy nuts. I dunno. Point is, as someone already stated, it's made up. Doesn't exist. So it's either a joke, a tradition, or significant in some other way.
DENVER IS ALSO A GOOD PLACE... FOR CIA
CIA Plans to Shift Work to Denver
by Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 6, 2005
The CIA has plans to relocate the headquarters of its domestic division, which is responsible for operations and recruitment in the United States, from the CIA's Langley headquarters to Denver, a move designed to promote innovation, according to U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials.
The Denver suburb of Aurora is home to the little-known Aerospace Data Facility. Located inside Buckley Air Force Base, it has become the major U.S.-based technical downlink for intelligence satellites operated by the military, the National Security Agency and the National Reconnaissance Office, according to military and government documents obtained by William Arkin, author of "Code Names," a book about secret military plans and programs.
About 70 miles away, the U.S. Northern Command, based at Peterson Air Force Base, in Colorado Springs, is tasked with homeland defense and has been increasing its domestic intelligence work.
It could not be learned whether the CIA's Denver plans are linked to the presence of either facility.
Originally posted by jerryznv
As far as being convincing...I am not trying to be...I question everything...you should too...it's called being skeptical!
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
reply to post by Arken
Buckley already contains a bunch of ABC agencies...some I dont even know of....
Questioning everything and not doing any research or following links to presented data, but merely stating an opinion that something is made by a 10 year old when in fact it is in an official publication is NOT being a skeptic...
Originally posted by COconspiracyguy
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
reply to post by Arken
Buckley already contains a bunch of ABC agencies...some I dont even know of....
Spent some time at Buckley a while back. It never ceased to amaze me how the civilian industrial
businesses in the area were tightly knit with the base..
The whole place is one giant secret right under the publics nose, just like DIA>