First Impact Caught in Video, page 2


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reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 07:42 PM by micmerci
reply to post by earthdude



Commercial aircraft are restricted below 2000 ft. over Manhattan. I think it was probably much louder than typical commercial flights in the area due to the low altitude.


reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 09:35 PM by lunarasparagus
reply to post by earthdude



This clip is famous for being the only clear video footage of the first plane, shot by French film-makers, the Naudet Bros. If you're interested you can watch the whole documentary here:

www.911conspiracy.tv...



reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 12:04 AM by pshea38
Originally posted by earthdude
I am amazed that there are more than one clear video of the first impact. I just watched this one for the first time.

I wonder what made them all look up? Was the noise of this jet different? Could there have been a sonic boom?
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Can't watch the clip anymore but the Naudet brothers video of the first 'plane'
impact has been proven over and over again to have been staged/faked.

www.cluesforum.info...
911foreknowledge.com...

This is not opinion. This is irrefutable.


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 12:46 AM by ProudBird
reply to post by Shadow Herder



Guy coming to say it was tv fakery, hologram, cruise missile, tanker in 5,4,3,2,1




And, You WIN!!!

Page #2, fourth post......where do we send the prize money?


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 01:30 AM by NWOwned
reply to post by earthdude



In other posts in other threads I pointed out 2 strange anomalies concerning this clip.

I will describe them both again here.

1. The right wing tip damage to the building clearly appears to occur BEFORE damage to the building by the right wing section that is closer to the fuselage. Which, considering the wing is tapered back, is impossible.

2. If you accept that this is a continuous shot... Do you? Looks like it is... so, why, when you freeze it at 37 seconds and look below the gash you just see normal building, but when you freeze it at 43 seconds you notice the jarring addition of the obviously missing pieces of vertical cladding?

How can this be explained if this is a continuous shot - as it actually appears to be?

Go ahead right now and freeze this clip at 37 seconds, look at the building face below the gash, compare the same freeze frame area with that of a freeze at 43 seconds.

Now play the clip through a few times, the damage at 43 seconds "magically appears".

Please explain that to me. If any of you can.


Cheers


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 01:42 AM by ProudBird
reply to post by NWOwned



Are we referring to the same video from the OP?:

Go ahead right now and freeze this clip at 37 seconds, look at the building face below the gash, compare the same freeze frame area with that of a freeze at 43 seconds.

Now play the clip through a few times, the damage at 43 seconds "magically appears".


Because, I have the clip open in another browser window......and at 37 seconds (0:37) of this OP's clip, the impact has already occurred.

What I see is a lot of camera shake (gee, you don't suppose the camera man is a bit emotional, do you???) from about 0:34, until near the end of the clip, when the cameraman zooms in at 0:43....still a bit shaky......


IF you think something "magically appears"? It is the zoom of the camera, that adds detail to the shot.

I would think that anyone with a bit of photography experience, or who at least has watched a motion picture or two, would realize this immediately?


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 02:00 AM by lunarasparagus
reply to post by NWOwned



Yes, it's because the camera zoomed-in, increasing the resolution on that part of the building. It's weird how people watch these ultra-compressed, low-res, video clips and expect high detail resolution--like you're bothered that detail to the impact hole "magically appears" as the camera zooms in, but did you notice that the sky is all made of shimmering squares, i.e. blocks of pixels? That can't be right. The sky is not made of squares!

Go ahead right now and watch the video in full screen and focus on the sky. Do you see all the shimmering squares of slightly different shades of blue?

Please explain that to me. If any of you can.

THE REAL SKY IS NOT MADE OF SQUARES! FAKE!
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reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 02:17 AM by lunarasparagus
reply to post by pshea38



Originally posted by pshea38

Can't watch the clip anymore but the Naudet brothers video of the first 'plane'
impact has been proven over and over again to have been staged/faked.

This is not opinion. This is irrefutable.


It's only irrefutable if you're wearing a tin-foil hat. It could be that those of us who aren't are receiving brain-scrambling waves that are being broadcast by the government/Illuminati.

Watch--take off your tin-foil.

Now watch the Naudet video again.

See?


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 07:02 AM by thedman
reply to post by earthdude



Another shot of aircraft impact on WTC 1

It was taken from a webcam by artist Wolfganag Staehle - the camera was focused on Manhattan and shutter
tripped every 4 sec

Can see approach of plane in upper right of picture just prior to impact

www.youtube.com...


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 07:10 AM by thedman
reply to post by LoneGunMan



His rank is not firefighter, he is a battalion chief. His own brother was one of the 343 fallen that day


Battalion Chief (rank at that time) Joseph Pfeifer

His younger brother Kevin was a Lieutenant in Engine 33

Kevin Pfeifer was killed in collapse of Tower 1



reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 07:16 AM by thedman
reply to post by micmerci



Have to remember that with all the tall buildings in the area would create a confusing pattern of echos making it
difficult to locate source of sound


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 09:32 AM by LoonyConservative
reply to post by NWOwned



your "right wingtip damage" is actually the shadow of the plane on the building, because if you take a minute to notice, the sun is shining from left of the frame, as evidenced by the shadow of the smoke after the impact on the right side of the building, and the glint of sunlight on the left face of it.

there was no "pre impact damage" your eyes were seeing what you already believed. as they say, you cannot pour water into a glass thats already full.
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reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 12:16 PM by Evanzsayz
reply to post by earthdude



They looked up because when a plane flies that low to the ground, its really loud!


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 12:21 PM by ProudBird
reply to post by Game_Over



The light source appears to be from BEHIND him.


Yeah....see that brightly lit building in the background?? THAT big wall on the building is lit by the very bright Sun....the men are in the shadow of the buildings that are not seen, as they are behind the camera. Those faint shadows come from the reflected sunlight on that big building in the video background....it is a "shadow within a shadow".

The first mistake, BTW, was believing any of that absurd crap from the "Let's Roll" or "September Clues" forums.

Especially that idiot Simon Shack and his "Clues". I can't understand how anyone ever takes him seriously.


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 12:36 PM by JOBEone
reply to post by earthdude



Sorry this is really old news. i have seen this a lot. It probably has been discussed her on ats before.


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 12:43 PM by Game_Over
reply to post by ProudBird



I get that it is probably just a shadow within a shadow.

That's why I stated, "BTW the shadow thing is not the biggest piece of evidence by a long shot -- it's just the easiest thing to notice. One really does need to go to those above mentioned websites to read the tons of evidence regarding these examples of staged fakery. "

And regarding those two sites you are so off base. Of course there is a lot of wrong info -- that happens during investigations. You may have not been there lately, but they have shown repeatedly that there is a ton of strangeness regarding the photographs and news images reported that day. I suggest those that truly have an open mind go to those sites and use your brains to sift through the forums and join the discussion.


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 01:08 PM by samkent
reply to post by Game_Over





You may have not been there lately, but they have shown repeatedly that there is a ton of strangeness regarding the photographs and news images reported that day.

Strangeness does not equal conspiracy.

Things look different in photos and videos than they do in person. How many times do we watch the evening news when there is video of an area we are very familiar with, but we have a hard time orienting our brains with the buildings we see on tv?
You could take a still frame of just about anywhere and others will pick it apart for inconsistancies. Just look at the people who spend hours knit picking the Apollo pictures.
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