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Would you men want to be female if they were stronger and more logical than you?

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posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 06:30 PM
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Let's say for a sec that 50% of the women on this planet have better strength, male genitals, and male logic skills though patterns. Add in a factor that those 50% are by nature very fit.

What point would there be for men to exist? If this happened who in their right mind would pick a male body. You have a perfect female figure except with male special parts and you're better over all. The male body is based on a primitive utility-structure thus it's utilitarian as in it's not meant to be beautiful or manipulative. Males as you can see even today are designed to work long and hard. Your value seems to come from slavery to your masculine belief that tons of work and dying for pointless reasons make you a man. Even when you try to break free from your typical male gender role society and your female-lover needs you to be in that dominate male-lead 24/7. You want that attractive female right? well you have to put on the typical male role. You want that awesome job? Act the tough male part. You want respect from other men? Play the male role and show your value.

Male existence right here is true slavery. Ladies on the other hand can play both roles of masculine or feminine and most of the time be accepted into societies matrix.




posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 06:35 PM
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Jaysus! You got some crazy dudes in your life..

But what would happen then? Women would just lay eggs?



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 06:45 PM
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Sooo to sum up...

Are you saying that, if it is possible to grapht or create a falus for the women that want one....

Men are obsolete, of no use, and who needs them anyway?

Oh and BTW they are the cause and root of all evil?


I can't even imagine a reply if that is what you are saying. A man and a woman are two very seperate and equale unique species. When we come together we can create a miracle.

As a husband and father adoptive and otherwise, I can't image such a one sided view being realistic or functional.




posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 06:46 PM
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I can honestly say No, I would never want to be a female.

I am very happy being a male. Men don't have to be all tough and rough. I remember one of my co-workers telling me I wasn't macho, that men should be macho....pffffft...

Be yourself, that is all that matters.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 06:47 PM
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I thought having male genitalia made one a man.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 06:57 PM
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HAHAHAHA, I didn't even know where to begin in addressing this thread, so I decided to back up, and go back to the thread, just to see your comment.... you pretty much summed it up. Although there's a lot more to this story.

If you want to completely dismantle the evolving social structures, undo 1000's of years of developed cognitive bias, as well as putting humanity at risk of extinction(on a whole list of probabilities, not just humanity doing it to themselves), yeah by all means.

I love how the OP tries to attribute war and violence to only men, when if you actually did a little research into the development of many of the wars and conflicts that have played out through history, you would quickly realize that women's role is very prevalent. Men and women alike react and respond out of emotion, but you will find that men allow many factors(especially what it means for the distant future). Bias and emotion dictates the majority of women's decisions, and in fact take a lot longer to change, or allow for empathy. Not to say that this is all bad, because loyalty and allegiance is necessary and essentially to continuing with initiatives or objects that can be very difficult to stick by. EMPATHY, the lack of, is of much significance when entertaining a discussion about the outlook and decisions made when comparing sex's.


Both Men and Women play essential roles that coincide with out heightened(compared to others) levels of consciousness, and our ability to problem solve.

What's wrong with the male body? I personally have no idea what women see in men(physically) that can be all that attractive... I would agree that the visual or aesthetics of the female body are more admirable, in a conscious awareness or emotion type of application. But it is the body of the man in which give construct the the very foundations and infrastructures that have evolved over time. It takes brute force sometimes to get a bolt off, or frame your house. But, being a women, guided by emotion, I can see why the contributions of the male body in the development of the construction, hunting, gathering, defending... etc. would be overlooked, and that the aesthetic or emotional implications of the male body is what you choose to focus on...

If you would like links, or sources to back up these claims, and essentially debunk every generalization that you have made, I am willing to do so.

Everything is a Yin Yang, get over it, and stop suggesting we undo or change the world that nature/universe/god had created, and that we have the ability to thrive in. Look in the mirror, figure out self, and then address the rest, and we will no longer remember what it's like to try and survive.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS
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I love how the OP tries to attribute war and violence to only men, when if you actually did a little research into the development of many of the wars and conflicts that have played out through history, you would quickly realize that women's role is very prevalent. Men and women alike react and respond out of emotion, but you will find that men allow many factors(especially what it means for the distant future). Bias and emotion dictates the majority of women's decisions, and in fact take a lot longer to change, or allow for empathy. Not to say that this is all bad, because loyalty and allegiance is necessary and essentially to continuing with initiatives or objects that can be very difficult to stick by. EMPATHY, the lack of, is of much significance when entertaining a discussion about the outlook and decisions made when comparing sex's.


Both Men and Women play essential roles that coincide with out heightened(compared to others) levels of consciousness, and our ability to problem solve.

What's wrong with the male body? I personally have no idea what women see in men(physically) that can be all that attractive... I would agree that the visual or aesthetics of the female body are more admirable, in a conscious awareness or emotion type of application. But it is the body of the man in which give construct the the very foundations and infrastructures that have evolved over time. It takes brute force sometimes to get a bolt off, or frame your house. But, being a women, guided by emotion, I can see why the contributions of the male body in the development of the construction, hunting, gathering, defending... etc. would be overlooked, and that the aesthetic or emotional implications of the male body is what you choose to focus on...

If you would like links, or sources to back up these claims, and essentially debunk every generalization that you have made, I am willing to do so.

Everything is a Yin Yang, get over it, and stop suggesting we undo or change the world that nature/universe/god had created, and that we have the ability to thrive in. Look in the mirror, figure out self, and then address the rest, and we will no longer remember what it's like to try and survive.


No need to, I understand your post. Men did most of everything in terms of everything. I simply think it's time for a new world order. I thank man for what he has done, but you had your time. Because of science a new breed of woman can dominate.




Originally posted by Darkblade71
I can honestly say No, I would never want to be a female.

I am very happy being a male. Men don't have to be all tough and rough. I remember one of my co-workers telling me I wasn't macho, that men should be macho....pffffft...

Be yourself, that is all that matters.


Being yourself is a lie we tell ourselves to makes us feel better. In the real world it never works.


Originally posted by treespeaker
When we come together we can create a miracle.


Miracles don't exist. Life is pure science and will always be science.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 07:41 PM
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Well, O.K.

Children are science...like hitler science to purify the race you want? Parts of the present are obsolete? way to go ...

I can see the pure logic in a refined race.

The realization that folk like you/me are biased by our world view and unable to remove bias tells me this idea is folly....and only leads to an end for all..

The fact you can think this way leads me to believe an equale view point exists....wonder where the fella you are creating is right now...

Thoughts are actions.

Oh and on the pic....proof it's U or it's BS....physical ability is physical ability....in an animal against animal...what do you bring that is not artificial? and un-maintainable?




edit on 26-1-2012 by treespeaker because: (no reason given)

edit on 26-1-2012 by treespeaker because: Cause I'm working at a gym LOL



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by treespeaker
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Well, O.K.

Children are science...like hitler science to purify the race you want? Parts of the present are obsolete? way to go ...

I can see the pure logic in a refined race.

The realization that folk like you/me are biased by our world view and unable to remove bias tells me this idea is folly....and only leads to an end for all..

The fact you can think this way leads me to believe an equale view point exists....wonder where the fella you are creating is right now...

Thoughts are actions.

Oh and on the pic....proof it's U or it's BS....physical ability is physical ability....in an animal against animal...what do you bring that is not artificial? and un-maintainable?




edit on 26-1-2012 by treespeaker because: (no reason given)

edit on 26-1-2012 by treespeaker because: Cause I'm working at a gym LOL


That lady in the pic is Sarah (Not me). More women need bodies like Sarah in all honesty. Anyways to answer you, I bring nothing but creativity for a brighter future. Unlike hitler I wish to bring a fresh start for mother earth also. A science based society of perfect engineered females who no longer focus on meaningless task such as shopping or talking about boys (because they don't exist now).

All if took where the Rockefellers creativity to re-engineered women. Just a single idea changed the world...



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 07:55 PM
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That's ok op but i wanna no where she's got her Credentials hid. Now if we're gonna go down your rabbit hole.

If science can make a better woman it sure as hell make a better man but if anything will just be made into the perfect slave/soldiers both male and female controlled from the top just like always



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:05 PM
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I'm still here op but i got to go and rub someone's feet



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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Alright what you reply also makes sense but why women specifically? Do you not believe that refined and enhanced males would be usefull/important?

In the "fantasy" that all trouble could be removed from the female structure, then what is the trouble with the same for males?

Would a hybrid unisex , self procreating animal not better fit your ideal?

And why would you not add benificial adaptaions in/from the animal kingdom while your at it?

To focus only on the female anatomy is the issue myself and others have with your post....and although I don't agree on eugentics myself the idea has always sparked a curiousity.

I am currious on the justification of your view point,... the why a woman with a penis completes the equation....

Peace and cheers!!

-not trashing you it's a strech to see the world...walking in yer shoes....



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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Let's say for a sec that 50% of the women on this planet have better strength, male genitals, and male logic skills though patterns. Add in a factor that those 50% are by nature very fit.


I do believe that if a female has male genitalia then by definition she is a male.




What point would there be for men to exist? If this happened who in their right mind would pick a male body. You have a perfect female figure except with male special parts and you're better over all.

So what you saying is that if some females were males or some sort of hybrid they would be better off and superior.





The male body is based on a primitive utility-structure thus it's utilitarian as in it's not meant to be beautiful or manipulative. Males as you can see even today are designed to work long and hard. Your value seems to come from slavery to your masculine belief that tons of work and dying for pointless reasons make you a man. Even when you try to break free from your typical male gender role society and your female-lover needs you to be in that dominate male-lead 24/7. You want that attractive female right? well you have to put on the typical male role. You want that awesome job? Act the tough male part. You want respect from other men? Play the male role and show your value.

I would say that you do not know males as well as you think you do, or at all. Well at least for me I can safely say that none of the above is applicable.


I think I will stick with being a male instead of a female or some sort of hybrid, the first has cuties, and the second is just icky.


Now a better question would be why you so crazy? Because as we can plainly see you pretty much have very little clue as to the nature of the genders. But if there was going to be some sort of stable hybrid of human, the only think I can say is that it will not be human.

Forget your silly concepts of male and female that whole thing is a aspect of duality, one can not exist without the other...When one goes, so does the other. lets just say genital parts and everything else would not be needed, prudent, or even in there vocabulary.

In fact pretty much all current aspects such as the physical makeup of the body and even beauty and mental aspects everything is basically defined by the other gender, and no matter what females think, they are defined by males, and vice versa as you know.

What you describe above with your masculine chicks that have male genitalia can be nothing but a fad, definitely no great leap in evolution. And even if they could asexually reproduce, in about a couple hundred years what would happen is you would end up with a bunch of carbon copies of each other running around. And in a couple hundred thousand years you would end up with a bunch of grey's.


Which would be redundant.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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I'm quite curious, your outside position on this line of thinking. I do not mean to offend or intimidate, but do you have a hatred towards males? I know history paints a rather dim picture of some from our "clan", but modern times tell a different story. Me, for example. I do not intend to "conquer" anyone. I am a younger guy (29) with slightly more female friends (not sexually involved with) than male friends, and I cherish all my friends for their personality, friendship, and brilliance, and I'm 100% straight.

This whole idea that one can lump a gender into a bottle of judgement is really sad, in my opinion... With all respect to your opinion, there really are guys that finish last..




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