Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by SaturnFX
One thing either ignored or overlooked.
The typical uneducated white idiot will default vote republican, the typical uneducated black idiot will default vote democrat.
There are more white people than black people in the US
Therefore, it makes sense that low IQ backwoods idiots would seem to favor conservatism..simple numbers and culture.
well, in 100 years, it will be irrelevant and we will be talking about the martians or some such.
I still say social conservatism (we need government to legislate morality) are the slope headed neandertals though.
However, social liberals also want government to legislate morality, albeit a different kind of morality.
Now..if one mentions "liberal" as in the classical liberal sense, which was about less governmental intrusion all around, we would have
However, in our current "liberal" vs "conservative" paradigm you really have two side of the same coin. A social conservative wants to ban gay
marraige, a social liberal wants to ban trans-fats or sodas over 16 Oz. A social conservative wants to ban drugs a social liberal wants to ban guns.
Both sides of the spectrum want to use the coercive power of the government to force their view of morality on their fellow citizens.
Although I do not see either of your examples as mainstream liberal. I will say this. Neither of those are moral dilemmas. Soda and Fat are leading
causes of health issues..and often translated into the poor whom do not pay for medical bills (thereby putting it on the state). Banning such stuff,
or taxing the hell out of it at least would compensate the mathmatical issue going on here.
I am a smoker, and am always in favor of tobacco tax. Why? because tobacco is murderously unhealthy, and the common vice of the poor and lower middle
As far as guns. My view..I don't want to ban guns, I want to ban crazy people having guns though. That isn't a moral issue..thats a safety issue.
Gay marriage? Why the hell is the government even in the business of supporting a religious institution. I say unions for all..legal purpose power of
attorney unions between a single other person, be it man, woman, herm, alien, etc..one person..thats it. Let churches decide, but recognise no
religious institution. This empowers churches.
I am a mix of classic and modern liberal overall. I do want my liberties over all..freedom is a nonsense word. If there is no collar on your neck or
whip on your back, your free..after that, its what liberties do you have, what choices.
I do believe in sociological progressive guiding. I personally am a bit grumpy that I won't be alive during a true one world government..but at least
it seems to be gaining momentum..maybe 100 years..maybe less. depends on when the middle east sorts itself out really. But we need a guided goal
towards unification..tired of wars and such..we need to start expanding into space..so, long term, big picture, conservativism, which would keep us
seperate forever, is out of the question.
I prefer a star trek style world verses star wars when contemplating our future.
But yes, there are idiots...and they always seem to have the loudest voice. I think lack of gray matter increases the size of their mouth.