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Topic started on 26-1-2012 @ 05:06 PM by Maxmars

Believing the impossible and conspiracy theories


www.physorg.com
Distrust and paranoia about government has a long history, and the feeling that there is a conspiracy of elites can lead to suspicion for authorities and the claims they make. For some, the attraction of conspiracy theories is so strong that it leads them to endorse entirely contradictory beliefs, according to a study in the current Social Psychological and Personality Science.
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reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 06:08 PM by Drunkenshrew
The authors come from the psychology branch of The University of Kent. One of the authors is Mrs Karen Douglas. According to her profile is her:

...primary research focus is on beliefs in conspiracy theories. Why are conspiracy theories so popular? Who believes them? Why do people believe them? What are some of the consequences of conspiracy theories and can such theories be harmful?

www.kent.ac.uk...

Psychologists study all kind of social interactions. So it is normal that there are also some psychologists who are interested in conspiracy theories from an outsiders point of view. As long as they only publish their research in professional journals, I find that hardly conspicuous. But when they become celebrities overnight, are invited by the media and start to evaluate the truth behind all kinds of possible conspiracy theories, it begins to smell fishy. David Aaronovitch is one of those fishy guys. As far as I know, Mrs Douglas seems not to belong to the smelling category.


reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 06:23 PM by davidgrouchy
Well, well, well, what have we here.

At least they got one part right. It was impossible to believe.

The USA I was born into was not a country that made conspiracy based laws.

But that changed in the 70's.

RICO is the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. This act makes it illegal to participate in an organization that is involved in criminal activity. Conspiracy is a secret agreement to commit an illegal act.

. . .

RICO laws were enacted by Congress in 1970. They originally were developed to prosecute the Mafia and others committing organized crime. Over time, however, its application has become much more widespread.

Milwaukee RICO Conspiracy Lawyer



And then later we get this gem...



18 U.S.C. § 371 : US Code - Section 371: Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense
against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any
agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of
such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy,
each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned

codes/findlaw.com


I guess the law is truely only for our owners now, and not us.
I mean acording to the article "I must be crazy" to believe
that conspiracy is real in the US. Even though it's listed in the Law books.


David Grouchy


reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 07:01 PM by Drunkenshrew
The term conspiracy theory was not always used in a negative way. The term has become a tool to dismiss conflicting evidence of state crimes against democracy out of hand.

Originally a neutral term, during the political upheaval[not in citation given] of the 1960s it also acquired a somewhat derogatory sense, implying paranoia.[4] The term is sometimes used to automatically dismiss claims that are deemed ridiculous, misconceived, paranoid, unfounded, outlandish or irrational. A proven conspiracy theory, such as the notion that Nixon and his aides were behind the Watergate break-in and cover-up, is usually referred to as something else, such as investigative journalism or historical analysis

en.wikipedia.org...

I believe this happened not by accident, it was planned by TPTB. The CIA for example sent in 1967 a memo to its media assets. The memo instructed the presstitutes how they should counter evidence and stories which conflicted with the official story. So even back then, they had someone like Cass Sunstein who wanted to implement a “vigorous countermisinformation establishment [a Sunstein term]”.



CIA Instructions to Media Assets

This document caused quite a stir when it was discovered in 1977. Dated 4/1/67, and marked "DESTROY WHEN NO LONGER NEEDED", this document is a stunning testimony to how concerned the CIA was over investigations into the Kennedy assassination. Emphasis has been added to facilitate scanning.

1. Our Concern. From the day of President Kennedy's assassination on, there has been speculation about the responsibility for his murder...

2. This trend of opinion is a matter of concern to the U.S. government, including our organisation...

...Conspiracy theories have frequently thrown suspicion on our organisation, for example by falsely alleging that Lee Harvey Oswald worked for us. The aim of this dispatch is to provide material countering and discrediting the claims of the conspiracy theorists, so as to inhibit the circulation of such claims in other countries. Background information is supplied in a classified section and in a number of unclassified attachments.

mtracy9.tripod.com...

Complementary to the presstitutes, the CIA had also thousands of assets, who were employed by academia.



reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 11:28 AM by Drunkenshrew
Here is a lecture of Karen Douglas on conspiracy theories from the 2011 CFI UK Conspiracy Theories Conference


Much of what Mrs Douglas says makes sense to me.

The only really part which surprised me, was her finding that people who endorse conspiracy theories are also more likely, to be willing, to conspire themselves. I personally am appalled by using Machiavellian tactics in any form. But she herself remarks, that this finding probably comes from the fact, that her study group consisted of psychology students, not persons like for example JFK-researchers, who spend much of their time trying to uncover the truth behind past crimes.

As a complement to Mrs Douglas I recommend the lecture from the behavioural neuroscientist Laurie Manwell. Manwell is part of the 9/11 truth movement and examines the psychology from the other side. Why do people refuse to look at conspiracies?

The Psychological Implications of 9/11 by Laurie Manwell (1 Part - rest on youtube)

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