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'Senior IDF officer told cabinet Israel cannot stop Iran's nuclear program'

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posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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At least that's what a senior IDF commander told Netanyahu's Cabinet last year sometime !!
(according to Time magazine)

The "official" said Israel has limited capabilities against Iran's nuclear facilities and at best could only delay Tehran's program for about a year !!

Published 21:30 26.01.12
Latest update 21:30 26.01.12
Haaretz

But like a man, he said:

“I informed the cabinet we have no ability to hit the Iranian nuclear program in a meaningful way,” the official quoted the senior commander as saying. “If I get the order I will do it, but we don’t have the ability to hit in a meaningful way.”


The Haaretz article does not mention the "official"'s name however.
perhaps for "security" reasons



BUT

Earlier Thursday, former IDF chief Gabi Ashkenazi said that Israel must do all it can to operate under the radar against Iran, but should simultaneously prepare for a possible strike against Tehran's nuclear facilities.

"Israel must do all it can under the radar and combine that with paralyzing sanctions, but at the same time keep a reliable military option on the table with the willingness to use it if necessary," Ashkenazi said.

"When the moment comes I don't know if we won't be alone, and for this reason Israel must also rely on itself," he said.



Time Magazine quotes Israeli defense official as saying that Israel can only delay Tehran's nuclear program by several months, at most a year.
The article also has a picture of an Iranian nuclear facility.


What is the Point of this Haaretz report ?


Maybe a Renewed Appeal for "Help"









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posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 03:05 PM
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I agree, this is a subtle reminder that Israel is demanding help for the slaughter of Iranians. Typical bully can't fight their own fights when it gets down to the dirty. They are pretty tough when they're dropping bombs on Lebanon or Gaza, not so much going up against Iran unless they nuke them.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 03:14 PM
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The only way Iran's nuclear program is stopped is if there's a regime change.

The way the regime is controlling stuff, only a US invasion will make that happen. Without a false-flag, forget it.

That or nuclear strikes by Israel.
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posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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They got yellow cake from Africa too


That person in the report had the word "nazi" in their name. It's fitting.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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Any questions?



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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More of a question, but it is about the OP.

Don't the IDF have the same planes/jets as the US?

Is it a lack of the number of planes?

Or would it be the ability to Penetrate to the lv of the Iranian Facilities?



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
More of a question, but it is about the OP.

Don't the IDF have the same planes/jets as the US?

Is it a lack of the number of planes?

Or would it be the ability to Penetrate to the lv of the Iranian Facilities?



Of course the article seems vague with details.

I think the IDF has plenty of air power, but they may not know where to actually strike effectively.

And there may not be any real weapons grade stuff anyway.

The article may be just a "local" reader target.


ETA: IDF aircraft






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posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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Israel has not sucked the US into giving it B-52s as far as I know.

Radar suppression.

Refuelling.

Taking a whole lot of planes away from the home front.

A nation needs a very large force to carry on a major strike away from their own borders.

Just think if the little scum Israelis send in 24 jets and six of the are shot down. It will look very bad for them even if they do lots of damage.

50 Israeli Merkava tanks were hit when the Zionist scum invaded Lebanon. The Zionists did not expect that.

I don't think it is possible that Israel would lose very many planes but they would probably lose at least one becaus attacking several target means the advantage of surprize is lost.

What Israel has done with all this BS talk is build the fable Iran has something other than a electric power program which might be the entire goal.


Originally posted by Tw0Sides
More of a question, but it is about the OP.

Don't the IDF have the same planes/jets as the US?

Is it a lack of the number of planes?

Or would it be the ability to Penetrate to the lv of the Iranian Facilities?



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 04:23 PM
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Here's some info about Iran air defenses.

Maybe this is one reason Israel wants "help"....


They want somebody else to take the losses.


Published: 21 September, 2011, 13:42

An Iranian general says the Islamic Republic has built an ingenious air defense system which surpasses the Russian S-300. Moscow intended to provide S-300s to Teheran, but canceled the sale due to UN sanctions against Iran.

"The flaws and defects of the S-300 system have been corrected in the indigenous version of the system and its conceptual designing has been finished,” Fars news agency quoted Brigadier General Farzad Esmaili as saying on Tuesday.

The commander of the Khatam al-Anbiya Air Defense Base said the surface-to-air missile system is dubbed Bavar-373 and uses two or three different types of missiles to attack aerial targets, depending on their altitude.

Iran has been developing a long-range air defense system for several years and first tested it last year. Some military experts speculated that the technology may have been borrowed from China. China was one of the several legitimate buyers of the Russian system.

Better than S-300: Iran boasts of air defense system


and a Haaretz article from last November:
Iran to hold air defense drill simulating Israeli attack on its nuclear sites


The Revolutionary Guards said in a statement that the drill was aimed at ensuring Iran was ready for any attacks on its nuclear facilities and other strategic sites.



Maybe Iran isn't as ass-backwards as some say !!



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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Netnayahu is looking more and more like and idiot these days and God knows that takes some doing.

It is hard to tell if this talk about attacking Iran is just more BS from a country that can not turn off the BS and always has some sort of deception going on.

Some experts say it is just away to put more pressure on the US to step up sanctions on Iran. Sort of the old bad cop crazy cop technique. The US being the bad cop and Israel of course being the crazy cop. The world is afraid the crazy cop is going to go ballistic - literally so the world is happy when the bad cop goes in and just calls for sanctions that are illegal by international law but seem better than a nuclear holocaust.

Either way you look at it the whole world sees the US as Israel's bitch. Which reminds me to add that someday Americans are going to wake up to the reality of the Zionist control of their country and all hell will break loose.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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Israel can't hit that nuclear site in a meaningful way? Poppycock. One nuke would be all you need, the emp blast would fry every circuit board, and computer component they have and then that crap would melt down. It doesn't get anymore meaningful than that.
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posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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The average pool player just tries to make the shot.

A good pool player plans the shot so that the cue ball is set up for the next shot.

A great pool player makes every shot with the plan to clear the table.

The Israelis are fundamentally evil but they are not stupid. They do make mistakes. The Israeli military is good but has not won every battle they have fought and they have a bad habit of underestimating their opponents.

Iran is a huge country and there are several nuclear research / production sites.

No serious person claims that Iran has nuclear weapons.

If Israel used nuclear weapons to strike a nation that does not have nuclear weapons it might be difficult for the governments of France, Germany, the UK, Australia and dozens of other countries that are not now hostile to Israel to hold back their citizens from a complete boycott of Israel or hld back the citzens from thowing out pro-Israel governments and replacing them with governments that will sanction Israel.

Israel has a tiny economy and it can not handle a comprehensive boycott of its exports.

In other words it could "make the shot" but the cue ball be in a position to preclude any other action.


Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Israel can't hit that nuclear site in a meaningful way? Poppycock. One nuke would be all you need, the emp blast would fry every circuit board, and computer component they have and then that crap would melt down. It doesn't get anymore meaningful than that.
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posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 10:46 PM
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No serious person claims that Iran has nuclear weapons.


No serious person claims they can ever know everything about another country. People keep secrets and people tell lies. No serious person would discount the possiblity that they have nuclear weapons. They've reached 20% enrichment and thats enough for weapons grade uranium. Hence why Russia backed the hell away from them and started taking them more seriously...like rabid dog seriously.

They've had a nucear program for far longer than the world has known about it i can guarantee you that. The fact that they have all those underground hidden research facilities lends credence that theyre hiding the fact that therye making nuclear weapons and the fact that they've been testing rockets capable of carrying a nuclear payload also speaks volumes about their intentions. No serious person...sticks their head in the sand and pretends that what is happening, is not happening.
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posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 01:51 AM
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No serious person claims they can ever know everything about another country.

No but we can have a very good guess.


No serious person would discount the possiblity that they have nuclear weapons.

No but it's very very very very very very very unlikely. Winning the jackpot at the lottery twice in the same day would be more likely.


They've reached 20% enrichment and thats enough for weapons grade uranium.

Wroooooooooooong. You believed the medias didn't you? Weapon grade is 90%+ not 20%.



They've had a nucear program for far longer than the world has known about it i can guarantee you that.

Yeah, since the 90s. Yet, still no nuke. They didn't even buy enriched uranium from Kazakhstan after the break up of the Soviet Union because they fail so much. And that enriched uranium was CHEAP. For a few million, you could have enough enriched uranium for 20-30 nukes. Yet Iran didn't buy any of it. But eh, they want nukes... RIGHT...


The fact that they have all those underground hidden research facilities lends credence that theyre hiding the fact that therye making nuclear weapons

No it gives credence that warmongers in Israel want to bomb Iran and Iran want to protect their site.


the fact that they've been testing rockets capable of carrying a nuclear payload also speaks volumes about their intentions.

Right. The UN report said that it COULD be used for that or it could be for CONVENTIONAL rockets, which they have the right to do.


No serious person...sticks their head in the sand and pretends that what is happening, is not happening.

And no serious person doesn't remember the lies of the US government to attack Iraq.



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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We just can not allow ourselves to be sucked into another war for Israel.

Israel is not an ally of the US, never was, never willbe.

Israel is the problem




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