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posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by badconduct

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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Really no justice either? well i live in Toronto and heard the strange sound

I have friends who live in Thunderbay, Ottawa, Toronto and the suburbs North Bay, Sudbury, and even further up north. Not one person I know has heard this noise. There is even a video from my home town, North Bay, and not one person on my facebook account heard this noise. Not one person on any of their accounts heard that noise. North Bay's population is 53,000. If 200 people on my Facebook account have 200 friends, that's estimated 40,000 people who did not hear the noise.

Well a friend of mine in Ottawa had heard the strange sounds or was in the middle of them and he wont let me talk about them, i cant blame him he could have been in right in the center of it.


Facebook account have 200 friends,
Facebook? dont make me laugh
i turned off facebook a while ago and you claim to have 200 friends? really sorry i am not buying that.


Are you trying to debate this in a logical fashion, or are you just pretending to withhold some type of information in an attempt to appear greater than you really are?
Sounds to me that you are afraid of debating in a logical manner and the fact that the sounds have been reported by CBC



C. How can I profit off this noise? Anyone who posted a hoax video answered

C. first. Unless you do the same; you're most likely just wasting your time.


Since the first strange sounds were reported last year how many of those people made huge money or profit from them? ZERO.


There was a report by CBC today about the strange in Windsor Ontario and your still trying to debunk them?


Cool story bro.

Video? Evidence?

"you claim to have 200 friends?"

That's not a lot of facebook friends. I know a musician from the Ottawa area who has 3,000 friends. I use Facebook to market my website more or less.

"...the fact that the sounds have been reported by CBC"
Source?
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Since your on ATS why not search it themselves yourself? you got a a grudge against me or something?

Oh and since your on Fragile Earth subsection why dont you look at the threads on these strange sounds? and so they could wake you up a bit?
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posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 07:21 PM
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Search for what? Something I don't believe in?

I have seen most, if not all, of the videos. I am not convinced. Apparently; you are.

What is there left to discuss?



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by badconduct
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Search for what? Something I don't believe in?

I have seen most, if not all, of the videos. I am not convinced. Apparently; you are.

What is there left to discuss?


For Gave me ATS mods for saying this but its people like you cant have an Openmind nor think logical so what do you do then? you turn to either insults or act like you dont care if you didn't care about the strange sounds why did you post the posts about them then in the first place?

Let me quote a great quote by a good user on ATS.



Debunk all you want, you can't explain everything. Sometimes, you have to accept that some things are beyond human explanation. And if you refuse to accept it, you yourself will get debunked.



Search for what? Something I don't believe in?
But your willing to believe in God right?
even though we still dont have any proof if there is a God yet millions of people believe in God or some different spiritual form.

And as for what to search for the news reports and reports by ATS Users.



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 07:32 PM
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I have seen most, if not all, of the videos. I am not convinced. Apparently; you are.

Really all of them?
Vid What is This Loud NOISE?
China Tibet




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posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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The video in the OP was good. I suspect that this will die down and people will stop talking about these videos since the connection to the trumpets in "The Apocalypse of John".

If these were actual noises from the sky that sound like trumpets you almost HAVE to make that connection and i doubt that was the intent of the people who make these hoaxes and especially those who perpetuate the supernatural \ Alien rumor. So my impression is we will see much less and less of a big deal about it.



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 07:55 PM
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Oh so your agreeing with the Video OP Who blocked and whose afraid of debating them? and has even blocked comments that had even more likes then he had? in the video OP


I suspect that this will die down and people will stop talking about these videos since the connection to the trumpets in "The Apocalypse of John".

Are you saying all of them are fake
by the i compered the sounds they dont quite sound alike the trumpets they sound like Metal grinding,


So my impression is we will see much less and less of a big deal about it.
People have still been reported them.
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posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 08:18 PM
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The videos that would really interest people are the ones that make "War of the Worlds" sound or some variation of that particular instrument synth. Since so many people are on this whacky end of world kick lately these (fake) videos crop up. Problem there is if you combine that sound and Book of Revelations you have a Christian theme that to me sounds too much like the trumpets to just cast aside SO my own impression is you will see these videos less and less. Not to mention it is basically proven they are fake.

The other noises, which have made less of an impact on people are just ambient sounds that travel through the air, particularly when it is very quiet in the vicinity of the people hearing recording them.
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posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 08:39 PM
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Well i will just say some of them are fake but however not all of them, the Ukraine kiev one isn't fake, it doesn't like the sound is from the movie.



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 08:40 PM
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Oh and heres from Ontario More Strange sounds.
WindsorStar



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter

Originally posted by badconduct
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Search for what? Something I don't believe in?

I have seen most, if not all, of the videos. I am not convinced. Apparently; you are.

What is there left to discuss?


For Gave me ATS mods for saying this but its people like you cant have an Openmind nor think logical so what do you do then? you turn to either insults or act like you dont care if you didn't care about the strange sounds why did you post the posts about them then in the first place?

Let me quote a great quote by a good user on ATS.



Debunk all you want, you can't explain everything. Sometimes, you have to accept that some things are beyond human explanation. And if you refuse to accept it, you yourself will get debunked.



Search for what? Something I don't believe in?
But your willing to believe in God right?
even though we still dont have any proof if there is a God yet millions of people believe in God or some different spiritual form.

And as for what to search for the news reports and reports by ATS Users.


I am not asking very much from you. All I wanted was a link to a video that has not been debunked, and can clearly be connected to the original Kiev video. You are trying to suggest that they are abundant and obvious, but that is not how I see this event. If you are correct in your observations, I don't understand why you are not willing to share that information?

I read this forum as a source of alternate news. By no means does that require me to believe everything I see, read or hear. The same logic applies to main stream media, the Saturday news paper or business news. Too be honest; most everything posted on this forum is debunked at one point in time or another. I am not psychic, I am not being abducted by aliens, I don't see UFO's.

You definition of an "Open Mind" is confusing. There are many things in life that will remain a mystery. It is impossible to "debunk" or "prove" everything. Somethings are beyond the capacity of human understanding. Our brains are only so big. Some people choose to fill their minds with wonder and mystery, trying to understand secrets of the Universe, the unexplained events around. For them; they see a Universe of Chaos where wonder and amazement will reach out and find you at random. You (and others) believe that by hearing a strange sound yourself, and watching videos of other strange sounds, that something of greater importance than the norm is happening in your life. Those who are not aware, or awake, to those ideas are missing out on something of epic proportions. These sounds are potentially a life-changing event that mold the face of the planet and change the definition of life as we know it.

We each have our own version of reality. We judge our surroundings with a bias that we developed in our minds based on two things. The first being information; which is readily available on the internet. The second is experience; which you cannot get in front of a computer screen. I am a person who makes my judgments in life based more on experience than knowledge. I have traveled a fair amount in my life, and I have talked to a lot of people from many cultures about many personal topics. I have had deep conversations with homeless people who lived on Occupy camps, and I have shared a beer in a fine pub with hedge fund managers. I learn through face to face conversation, and witnessing and questions people.

I am not trying to insult you by any means, I would just like something put on the table I can listen to and think "Hmm, that sounds like something of epic proportions." But you haven't given me any information, you have just given me an opinion that has no evidence, no name associated or rank. You cannot even prove that you do not have an agenda.

But, I want to point out one thing. Suggesting that I "Don't have an opinion mind" is more of an insult than being called stupid, or a moron or an idiot. Considering the percentage of the population that reads and participates in this forum, and considering that I am here doing just that, I am hardly being closed minded. I came here for an explanation; and the majority of people who believe in deeper understanding seem to have poor understanding of perceptual positions. In other words; it's hard for you too accept that people would mislead in order to please you, because they desire your friendship.

You can insult me for saying "I believe in God", and that's fine. But you religiously put meaning behind everyday events, contributing them to "beyond human explanation". In reality; if it is beyond human explanation, that you cannot ever explain it. Why are you concerned about things that have no impact on your life, and cannot be explained? Some people just like to make hoaxs.



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 09:10 PM
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The other videos, like the one you linked to, are just some people who bought a house near industry or wherever that noise is coming from. Trains passing from long distances are one source. Animals get used to these sounds and accept them as nature. If i buy an apartment directly across from an elevated train, i already know the train is going to pass i accept this. In the animal kingdom animals are born with htese dissruptions already there so they just accept it as noises.

Also, most importantly, people hear and feel things differently, just as they see color differently. These are my opinions...except for the last part



posted on Jan, 30 2012 @ 10:26 PM
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I heard the strange wooshing more jet like sound back in the late 70,s early 80s with my whole family and lot others in my street at the time , in birmingham England,over the course of many nights if not months it was in teh papers , national and local etc ,

At the time it was most likely thought to be the natural gas pipelines , however this was later discounted by the gasboard,decades later it was found out that several underground comms bunkers had been built around that time , one of those in i think sutton coldfield was demolished recently and built on.Anchor in the centre of town was built in secret under the pretence of an underground railway(sound familiar) but construction had finished at this time.However i dont know if the noise could have been from the construction at the time,The noise we heard was more like a jet (or compressed gas movin) sort of stuttering along a pipe building up into a louder noise the pausing then starting again,Almost like a slow motion steam pile driver from the 30s

It was also asked if it could be nuclear trains using a route not normally used at night , but predictaby no answer on this was forthcoming and the trains were a distinctly different more direct normal sound.

The sounds in the debunked vids are totally different to those heard by me , they sound like a steel foundry pressing mill.
The most simila rto what i have heard is the whooshing noise vid on her and eleswhere but louder sort of through the ground...



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posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 12:32 AM
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Try debunk the whole Costa Rica yet i doubt you can because the whole Costa Rica yeah i doubt u would no offense but these sounds are real whatever you like or it or not.



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by Malcher
The other videos, like the one you linked to, are just some people who bought a house near industry or wherever that noise is coming from. Trains passing from long distances are one source. Animals get used to these sounds and accept them as nature. If i buy an apartment directly across from an elevated train, i already know the train is going to pass i accept this. In the animal kingdom animals are born with htese dissruptions already there so they just accept it as noises.

Also, most importantly, people hear and feel things differently, just as they see color differently. These are my opinions...except for the last part






who bought a house near industry or wherever that noise is coming from.

Huh no they were just opinions and different points on where the sound may have come from



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 12:34 AM
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that has not been debunked


Huh no it hasn't been debunked if you think and honestly believe that the person V00D00SIXXX i say you are quite wrong he that he has debunked them all really? all he is doing what is doing seeking attention and likes from a event still that hasn't been debunked note the comments on his page.






agree with you in general that a 'true believer' will not be convinced by any argument. However, I disagree with you that it is a waste of time.

At 2012hoax.org we debunk the claims made by the doomsayers all day long. As far as I know not a single one of them has been convinced by our arguments. But, THEY are not the audience. The audience for videos like this one and 2012hoax.org are the people who are worried about these claims, and are looking for an explanation.

See? even 2012hoax.org are saying they still haven't debunked them it, and aren't convinced yet.


Putting misinformation and Confusion into a person minds and brain.





Awww man, I thought it was real :'( ZR1Terror 2 hours ago


The sounds are real and have been reported sounds like to me that your the owner of the video its obvious why you would post alot here then


Comments on his page




Vodoo you need to be debunked!! I witnessed it myself. you probably havent so I dont know why you are even making a video about it if you think the sounds are fake. So you are try saying everybody that witnessed and recorded the sound are people that all watch the movie war of the world or red tape?? Get out of here not the whole dam world knows about those movies. You dont have enough proof. YOU SHOULD SHOULD BE DEBUNKED!





NOt everyone in the world watches those two movies. Just because you never witnessed doesnt mean you have to debunk it. you might as well explain all the videos that everyone upload it. You say its a waste of your time why the heck are you so into making a video responding to it. You want to hear the sound so bad but its not happening yet. YOU ARE DEBUNKED!! OWNED!



If V00D00SIXXX what is so true why is he deleting and removing Valid questions by other people?

Listen I sympathize with why you are tired of all the end times stuff... But throwing the baby out with the bathwater is not okay either... My other comments were removed because I was making a valid point sir. How typical.


I agree with that user.
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posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 12:43 AM
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The sounds in the debunked vids are totally different to those heard by me , they sound like a steel foundry pressing mill.


And i agree with you on that some think and even claim they sound like like huge trumpets or stolen audio clips from RedState or WoW
which is false, i agree there are some fakes but all of them if not most like the Ukraine kiev and Costa Rica ones are real.


There own countries news networks even reported it



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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Canada AM (morning news) just played the video from The Pas, and said tomorrow morning they will be covering the sounds that have been reported world wide.
They said they're going to try to have answers, they said they've been studying this for a couple of weeks now.

It'll be interesting to see what they say......



posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by snowspirit
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Canada AM (morning news) just played the video from The Pas, and said tomorrow morning they will be covering the sounds that have been reported world wide.
They said they're going to try to have answers, they said they've been studying this for a couple of weeks now.

It'll be interesting to see what they say......


The guy from The Pas commented on his own video that it was fake. It's called "The trumpets have gone viral" because it's fake. It's a reference to viral videos. The guy said "I'm getting thousands of hits and making money on google ads, you idiot" on his own video.

He deleted his comments because it was taking away from his viewership.

The only person in the Kiev video that notices the sounds is the lady with her baby, and she looks in the direction of the camera. No one else seems to care that the whole sky is trumpeting for 15 minutes, and no one interviewed a week later that lives in that area even remembers it.

It's all the same sound from the Kiev video. The CR video might be different; but I doubt it is anything significant.

The world isn't coming to an end, and these sounds are bull.


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posted on Jan, 31 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by gambon
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I heard the strange wooshing more jet like sound back in the late 70,s early 80s with my whole family and lot others in my street at the time , in birmingham England,over the course of many nights if not months it was in teh papers , national and local etc ,

At the time it was most likely thought to be the natural gas pipelines , however this was later discounted by the gasboard,decades later it was found out that several underground comms bunkers had been built around that time , one of those in i think sutton coldfield was demolished recently and built on.Anchor in the centre of town was built in secret under the pretence of an underground railway(sound familiar) but construction had finished at this time.However i dont know if the noise could have been from the construction at the time,The noise we heard was more like a jet (or compressed gas movin) sort of stuttering along a pipe building up into a louder noise the pausing then starting again,Almost like a slow motion steam pile driver from the 30s

It was also asked if it could be nuclear trains using a route not normally used at night , but predictaby no answer on this was forthcoming and the trains were a distinctly different more direct normal sound.

The sounds in the debunked vids are totally different to those heard by me , they sound like a steel foundry pressing mill.
The most simila rto what i have heard is the whooshing noise vid on her and eleswhere but louder sort of through the ground...



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That's interesting, but it sounds man made. I'm sure if you explored enough, you would find the source of the sound.



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