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Judge Has [not] Ruled, Obama [not] Off Of Ballot In Georgia! (erroneous news report)

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posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 08:00 PM
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is that law? nope.

btw, where does "natural born citizen" appear in the 14th amendment? heres the text-

Amendment XIV

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2.

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.

Section 3.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4.

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5.

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

the text clearly states birth here is enough.

edit on 27-1-2012 by stormson because: (no reason given)

edit on 27-1-2012 by stormson because: (no reason given)




posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by stormson

is that law? nope.


It is what some people here want the law to be. Unfortunately for them, it is NOT the law, and thus Obama is the legal POTUS, and he will get re-elected, much to certain peoples disgust!



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 08:08 PM
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Ah, yes. That is the way the judicial system works.

Oh, you must be from the school of Obama, where laws and procedure don't exist in his mind.



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 08:28 PM
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As an outsider, not an american citizen, I believe he does not have rights to be a POTUS again. EVER.
Not because of his color, but because how he screwed the country and this:
www.youtube.com...



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by Artephius Abraxas Helios
reply to post by BiffJordan
 
Because it is bunk! The Judge has not yet rendered a ruling. Further, the media isn't paying this any credence because it is baseless.


Since when has that ever stopped the media from covering something??



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by Drezden

Originally posted by jacklondonmiller
These backwoods idiots are simply amazing, as big government as they come,
they get to determine who people can vote for, two men make that decision for
the whole state of people.



If someone is not eligible for the presidency, they should not be on the ballot. Obama is not in good legal standing if he refuses to attend his court hearing.
If someone is not eligable for the presidency, then they would not have been elected by their party to run for president, then get elected president, and have a full term as president.



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:02 PM
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The law is in the constitution, the original way it was written which does say natural born.. the 14 th amendment does not over ride the original it adds to it... and Bingham explains what natural born means.... I know what it means...deniers of the constitution refuse to admit that not EVERY citizen has the right to be president....boo hoo tough luck.



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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Bingham's words are not he constitution. He was not a judge, and his words are nothing more than his own opinion.

To quote them as defining the constitution and therefore the law is preposterous.



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by wutz4tom
reply to post by candcantiques
 


Never would of thought I would have been hearing that news.....
What Is the Message that's being sent??? nobody is above the law?

edit on 26-1-2012 by wutz4tom because: (no reason given)


Apparently the message that's being sent is that the judge in the state of Georgia and the Georgia Secretary of State are Republicans !



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:22 PM
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Here's the law


No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.



And in numerous previous posts on this thread and others I stated numerous sources with the definition of Natural born and they all agree, both parents must be citizens at the time of the childs birth and your denials do not change that.



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by Alien Abduct

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by Alien Abduct
The fact is that Obama made the decision of who can vote for him by not showing up for court like any other normal citizen would do (and indeed is legally obligated to do and same goes for the president).


Showing up for what?

What exactly is Obama supposed to show up in person for - - to defend.

Please make sense.


Read this....


I said make sense. Obama doesn't have to prove anything.

Who is and who is not a Natural Born citizen - - - has nothing to do with Obama.


Make sense? what part of this segment from the link I just provided you doesn't make sense? Seems pretty black and white to me.......

The order is in the link above. Judge Malihi, Deputy Chief judge of the Administrative court in GA, ruled, that Obama’s motion to dismiss is denied. He will have to stand trial and prove his eligibility for office.


-Alien



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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A "natural born Citizen" is a child born in the USA of two (2) U.S. Citizens. The parents can be Citizens by Birth or they can be Citizens by Naturalization after immigrating to the USA. But to create a "natural born Citizen" of the United States both parents must be Citizens at the time the child is born in the USA. See this legal reference book used by the founders and framers of our Constitution: Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law, Vol.1 Chapter 19 Section 212, Emer de Vattel, 1758-1797. The overwhelming majority (probably 95%+) of citizens in the United States are natural born Citizens. It is from the group of natural born Citizens that our founders prescribed in the presidential eligiblity clause in Clause 5, Section 1 of Article II of the U.S. Constitution that we shall choose a President and Commander in Chief of our military as a strong check against foreign influence via birth allegiances on the person in that singular and most powerful office. One needs all three citizenship legs to be a natural born Citizen and have sole allegiance and claim on you at birth to one and only one country -- the United States: 1. Born in the USA. 2. Father must be a U.S. Citizen (born or naturalized). 3. Mother must be U.S. Citizen (born or naturalized). Like a three legged stool if you take away any of these three citizenship legs of the requirements to being a natural born Citizen, the child is born with more than one claim of allegiance/citizenship on them at their birth and thus they are NOT a natural born Citizen of the United States, and as in the analogy of a stool designed to stand on three legs and it is missing a leg, it falls down, likewise the person's claim to natural born Citizenship fails if the person does not have all three citizenship legs required to be a natural born Citizen at the time of their birth. See the below Venn Diagram which logically and graphically shows how a natural born Citizen has the intersection and unity of all three Citizenship statuses at birth. Read this essay " Of Trees and Plants" on basic logic which explains that being simply a "Citizen at Birth (CAB)" does not necessarily make oneself a "natural born Citizen (NBC)" at Birth. Natural born Citizens are overwhelmingly the largest subset of all American citizens. The location of birth being in the U.S. to a U.S. father and U.S. mother ... all being U.S. Citizens at the time of birth is the only way one achieves natural born Citizenship status. Natural born Citizenship is gained by the laws of nature not by any manmade law or statute or even a constitutional amendment granting that status. Natural born Citizens need no act of man for their Citizenship was created by nature and nature's Creator. Natural born Citizens of the United States have sole allegiance to one and only one country at birth ... the United States. No foreign power or country can claim their allegiance under U.S. law or the Law of Nations. Over 95% of Americans fit that requirement i.e., born in the USA of two U.S. Citizen (born or naturalized) parents. Natural born citizens are the 3 Leaf Clovers of the American citizens, Not the 4 Leaf Clovers. It is from those 95% of American citizens that our founders and framers directed us via Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution that we shall choose our President and Commander-in-Chief, not a dual citizen son of a foreign national and British Subject father, and being born a British subject himself via his father, as is the case with Obama's birth status.
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posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:39 PM
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Chester A. ARTHUR - Not an NBC or original Citizen . He was NOT an Article II NBC since he was born before father's naturalization. Seated due to assassination of President Garfield. But based on the facts uncovered in later history, he was unconstitutionally seated due to the falsified nativity story and fraud by Chester Arthur which was not fully discovered and proven until long after his death. He burned all his early family records to cover up his lies and fraud. He was born circa1829, allegedly in VT.
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posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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(Putative President) Barack Hussein OBAMA – Not an NBC. His father was a foreign national and was NOT a U.S. Citizen. Obama was seated due to FRAUD about his nativity story and the progressive corruption in the media of the legal meaning of NBC and the willful neglect of Congress. Obama’s father was a foreign national. His father was never a U.S. Citizen nor was Obama’s father even an immigrant to the USA or even a permanent resident in the USA. His father was only sojourning in the USA attending college and went back to Kenya after completing his education. Obama claims he was born in 1961 allegedly in HI but his birth registration most likely was falsified by the maternal grandmother. No hospital record of his birth has been produced. No name of an attending physician, mid-wife, or paramedic called to the scene of a speculated home birth report exists. No independent witnesses to the claimed birth in Hawaii have ever been named or surfaced. No pre-natal care records exist in Hawaii for Obama’s mother. There is no record at all of his mother even being in Hawaii in August 1961, the alleged month of Obama’s alleged birth in Hawaii. A false registration of birth at home in HI with no witnesses would have generated the vital record in HI and also would have generated the two newspaper ads. Those ads were placed automatically by the state a result of all birth registrations – real or falsified. And to further contradict the Hawaiian birth nativity story of Obama, there are many accounts by Obama’s paternal family in Kenya, Kenyan government officials, and Kenyan and African newspapers that Obama really was born in the hospital in Mombasa, Kenya. No other President in history has had so many accounts attesting to his being foreign born and/or can provide NO contemporaneous birth witnesses or evidence to corroborate their claim to U.S. birth.
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A "natural born Citizen" is a child born in the USA of two (2) U.S. Citizens. The parents can be Citizens by Birth or they can be Citizens by Naturalization after immigrating to the USA. But to create a "natural born Citizen" of the United States both parents must be Citizens at the time the child is born in the USA. See this legal reference book used by the founders and framers of our Constitution: Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law, Vol.1 Chapter 19 Section 212, Emer de Vattel, 1758-1797. The overwhelming majority (probably 95%+) of citizens in the United States are natural born Citizens. It is from the group of natural born Citizens that our founders prescribed in the presidential eligiblity clause in Clause 5, Section 1 of Article II of the U.S. Constitution that we shall choose a President and Commander in Chief of our military as a strong check against foreign influence via birth allegiances on the person in that singular and most powerful office. One needs all three citizenship legs to be a natural born Citizen and have sole allegiance and claim on you at birth to one and only one country -- the United States: 1. Born in the USA. 2. Father must be a U.S. Citizen (born or naturalized). 3. Mother must be U.S. Citizen (born or naturalized). Like a three legged stool if you take away any of these three citizenship legs of the requirements to being a natural born Citizen, the child is born with more than one claim of allegiance/citizenship on them at their birth and thus they are NOT a natural born Citizen of the United States, and as in the analogy of a stool designed to stand on three legs and it is missing a leg, it falls down, likewise the person's claim to natural born Citizenship fails if the person does not have all three citizenship legs required to be a natural born Citizen at the time of their birth. See the below Venn Diagram which logically and graphically shows how a natural born Citizen has the intersection and unity of all three Citizenship statuses at birth. Read this essay " Of Trees and Plants" on basic logic which explains that being simply a "Citizen at Birth (CAB)" does not necessarily make oneself a "natural born Citizen (NBC)" at Birth. Natural born Citizens are overwhelmingly the largest subset of all American citizens. The location of birth being in the U.S. to a U.S. father and U.S. mother ... all being U.S. Citizens at the time of birth is the only way one achieves natural born Citizenship status. Natural born Citizenship is gained by the laws of nature not by any manmade law or statute or even a constitutional amendment granting that status. Natural born Citizens need no act of man for their Citizenship was created by nature and nature's Creator. Natural born Citizens of the United States have sole allegiance to one and only one country at birth ... the United States. No foreign power or country can claim their allegiance under U.S. law or the Law of Nations. Over 95% of Americans fit that requirement



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:47 PM
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I choose to believe the plaintiff himself who was in the judges chambers and wrote the original story himself as I have proven. You choose to believe mainstream media. I think the choice is Obvious. Find the proof below





A MESSAGE FROM CARL SWENSSON...

To all my friends in battle,

The Judge pulled the lawyers for the three cases into chambers before it all began and advised them that he would be issuing a default judgment in our favor, since the Defense council failed to show, and wanted to end it there. We argued that all the evidence needed to be entered in to record so the Judge allowed for a speedy hearing where all evidence was entered into the court record. What that means is this… Any appeal, if one is even possible, would be based on the evidence provided by the lawyers in each case. Both Van Irion and My lawyer, Mark Hatfield made certain that our cases and evidence in those two cases would be closed so as not to be affiliated, in any way, with “Birther” Orly Taitz. As expected, she was an embarrassment.

Now we’re merely awaiting the publishing of this Judge’s ruling which, as previously stated, will be a Default Judgment.

In other words…we won. Now it’s time for the rest of the States to take my lead and duplicate this effort.

Carl



And the man above was the man that filed THIS paperwork.





posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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Must watch this video of Carl Swenson himself reporting on what occured in the courtroom.
Swenson says in the recording that the judge will enter a default judgement against Obama. Swenson is one of the men that was not only in the courtroom but in the judges chambers as well as he was one of the original plaintiffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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…Since Obama and his attorney chose not to be present a defense and dispute the evidence that was presented, this can be taken as an admission that all of the evidence admitted were indeed facts and may not be disputed at a later time on appeal!


theulstermanreport.com...

You believe the mainstream media. I will believe the man that filed the charges, was IN the judges chambers and WROTE the ORIGINAL story



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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Nothing else to say?



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 09:55 PM
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Obama doesn't have the nomination yet. A lot can happen between now and the deadline to get on the ballot.



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