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GOP Debate Tonight 1/26/12

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posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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Third break 9:50 EST. GOP Debate times 1/26/2012 jack. fl.
approx
1.santorum 17:35
2.gingrich 22:06
3,romney 21:49
4.paul 16:38




posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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Hey Outkast has said on the record that he doesn't think the Patriot Act, TSA, or NDAA are unconstitutional, because his banker puppet Obama supported them all.

edit on 26-1-2012 by TupacShakur because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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I posted this in another thread somewhere, but you should check out Mark Twain's The War Prayer, it is really short, but is very fitting to some of the current stuff going on. I don't want to spoil it but here is a link if anyone is interested.
warprayer.org...



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by ModernAcademia
 



Because of that how crowded is the emergency room?
How easy is it to find a specialist?

So hard to find a specialist until it's it's too late then govt.(you) pays for care

If you can't see the lack of logic there then I don't know what to say


Emergency rooms will always be crowded...always have been, always will be.

And if you are in NEED of a specialist...it's not that hard to find one.

Where the hell do you live...you are painting a picture that I just don't see.

The problem isn't the availability of healthcare...it is there...the problem is the cost and the abuse by insurance companies.

In Ron Paul's plan of just doing nothing and letting the "market" handle it....is handing it over to the insurance companies to do whatever the hell they want to do.

But I guess they will just do the right thing...right? Because Ron Paul says so


First of all, Emergency rooms are only crowded for those with no insurance. If you have insurance, you fly though pretty fast.

Secondly, DO not tell me how easy it is to find a specialist. You OBVIOUSLY have no idea based on experience how hard it can be to get a specialist. I DO! I have needed the same surgery since 2002. Twice a year I take a day off work and I go to the emergency room. I have to take the day off because I do not have insurance. I show up at 8am and I leave usually around 7pm. Sometimes I leave at 5pm other times I have stayed as late as 9pm. I LITERALLY show up with a cooler full of drinks, a couple sandwiches, and a good book.

I show up with my medical records from 2002 to date. I show up with my MRI results from 2006. I know what is wrong with me, I know how to fix it. The Doctors are ALWAYS in complete agreement with me. It is the Administrators who make the policy and effect the health care of this country. The Doctors can not do my surgery here. I need a specialist and so they refer me to one of 3 different places in my State. None of them have accepted me as a patient and they all give the same reason, "We are not accepting any new referrals at this time" and I have been getting this excuse now for what will be 4 years this July.

And I am in a State that deducts State taxes for the benefit of healthcare. Instead of giving me the care I need, instead of even accepting a payment plan that I would pay off myself, they deny me care and would rather argue with me about how old my MRI results are, and even the Doctors laugh at the argument. I have a severe case of plantars fibromatosis. I have a mass in the bottom of my foot. That mass did not change from a solid mass to a fluid filled mass. The only difference between what the MRI showed in 2006 and what it shows today, is that the mass is much larger.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by MysticPearl
What the hell is Santorum babbling about? This country is based on god given rights?

Don't I have a god given right to jump on a plane and visit relatives in NY? But isn't it government which says if we can't pat down your scrotum, you can't go?


I guess it depends on what Santorum considers God



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by imawlinn
Oh no! If newts elected he's going to seek help from god. Wow.

He is looking for a VP .......



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:54 PM
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Does anyone else notice Romney's face when Paul speaks? Such an actor.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:54 PM
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You're trying to make a point with a fictional novel?


LOL...you are right...working conditions were just peachy in the last 1800s/early 1900s.



FREE MARKET works, the best example of one currently is the internet and it works just fine, in fact its growing and thriving at an extremely rapid pace.


What?

The internet commerce is regulated just like brick and mortar commerce....wtf are you talking about.

Unless you are talking about the rampant pirating and child porn...I guess that is what you consider "just fine".


And it it because of people like you that support the heavily regulated market we are in this DISASTER. WE are trying fix YOUR centralized problems.


Oh yeah...so sorry for child labor laws, safe working conditions, and safe products.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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IMO, RP just knocked it out of the park!

What a way to separate from the party buffoons!



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:57 PM
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The essence of an Outkast reply: vague assertion, insert rolleyes emote.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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whatever you just said isn't even debatable.

ATS is an entire archive of the failure of the American centralized and 'progressive' aka welfare system.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by MrWendal
 


Tell me who won after the polls come out or after the Florida primary.

You are commenting on this from a personal and emotional position.

I'm commenting on what will translate into the real world.


No your not. Your commenting from the point of view of someone who has no horse in this race and your not saying anything that people do not know or are not expecting. Even Ron Paul expects to come in last in Florida and HAS NOT spent money campaigning in this area. It is a winner take all State. Whoever wins Florida, gets ALL the delegates. Paul's strategy is to collect delegates. He is spending his money campaigning in Caucus States and states that divide delegates based on the primary results.

Your not basing anything on "the real world" your simply saying the same thing everyone has said since the S.C. Primary.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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First of all, Emergency rooms are only crowded for those with no insurance. If you have insurance, you fly though pretty fast.


LOL...oh my...what mis-information.

Patients are triaged by severity...nothing else.


Your situation is unfortunate...and it is because of the insurance companies not being regulated engouth. Good thing Obama's plan got rid of pre-existing conditions and will allow you to buy insurance through the state exchanges at good prices and you can go get that fixed.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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God given rice? Oh boy santorum wants us to be christian or dead.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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Bottom up, top down? Stfu scrotorum.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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FINAL flub count:
santorum 4
gingrich 4
romney 4
paul 0

FINAL point count
santorum 3
gingrich 3
romney 6
paul 13

Like Ive said, Im not a paul supporter. Im an undecided democrat. But I gotta tell ya'll... The only man on that stage I'd ever fathom voting for is Ron Paul. He won every point he was allowed to debate on tonight. Romney did a good job fighting Newt early, but couldn't land a knock out blow. I think Santorum just did his best to separate himself from the pack, but in this poster's humble opinion, it was the wrong direction from the pack.

Summing up, there are 3 candidates who simply are just more of the same. I will not vote for them. And for whatever reason the establishment in the republican party is fearful of Ron Paul.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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"blah blah blah America's greatness blah blah blah my experience blah blah blah"



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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WHAT IF ............Health Insurance and Car Insurance Played by the Same Rules ?



Might even hear a Testimonial like this one........


Hey , I just Saved 29,000 Dollars on my Heath Insurance Policy by getting a Quote Online from 75 Different Carriers ! My Lowest Quote was from Fred's Total Health Care Co. located in Juno Alaska , Now maybe I can Afford to get that Gall Bladder Operation I been needing now for the last 2 Years .......... Thank You Fred !






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posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by eLPresidente
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
 


whatever you just said isn't even debatable.

ATS is an entire archive of the failure of the American centralized and 'progressive' aka welfare system.


It's not debateable because it's true...and you have nothing.

You could answer one simple question...were working conditions just fine in the late 1800s/early 1900s????

Let me remind you...those were 100% FREE MARKETS.

I know you won't answer...because it destroys your way of thinking.
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posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Just wait til the post debate analysis/show, if they hold it outside where they were before the debate started you're going to see and hear a lot of Ron Paul support out there. Good debate overall, enjoyed watching it and reading your commentary and seeing some score keeping going on... Especially when it pisses off OutKast, no debate thread would be complete without his presence.



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