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the problem with knowing too much truth in this world, is it ends up getting you killed
Originally posted by Rising Against
The Mysterious Death of Marilyn Monroe
saving this as one of the favs !!! Thank you for this post
Originally posted by blocula
Nice thread,but this issue was already threaded about 15 months ago > www.abovetopsecret.com...
Oh well...marilyn monroe wasnt the only celebrity who has tragically died too young...
What about the mysterious deaths of...
brian jones,jim morrison,jimi hendrix,james dean,sal mineo,natalie wood,cass elliot,randy rhoads,ottis redding, nick adams,george reeves,carole lombard,jayne mansfield,bob crane,janis joplin,keith relf,buddy holly,aaliyah,jp richardson,ritchie valens,marc bolan,sam cooke,john denver,phil ochs,john lennon,heath ledger,michael jackson,peter tosh,sonny bono,jim croce,marvin gay,judy garland,jean harlow,leslie howard,ricky nelson,keith moon,andy gibb,johnny ace,tupac shakur,kurt cobain,david carridine,ronnie vanzant,steve gaines,cassie gaines,stevie ray vaughn,michael hutchence,carl switzer,isadora duncan,grace kelly,john bonham,billie holiday,patsy cline,hank williams,bruce lee,brandon lee,selena perez,john ritter,dana plato,diana frances,brian keith ect,ect???
The more you live the faster you will die...
That sad and sorry list goes on and on and on and it keeps getting longer every year...
A mega conspiracy thread in the making...edit on 30-1-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: Nicolas Flamel
I would like to add a little to RA's excellent posts with some paraphrasing from the 2011 book: "Marilyn Monroe" A Case for Murder" by Jay Margolis published in 2011. Also some of Dr. Noguchi autopsy findings are presented.
Note that what I am paraphrasing from the book is available as a free preview of the contents of the book.
As you mentioned Dr. Noguchi noted: "A slight ecchymotic area is noted in the left hip and left side of lower back." Ecchymosis means a discoloration of the skin caused by bruising. So had someone held her down, especially her lower body?
Dr. Noguchi also noted: "The colon shows marked congestion and purplish discoloration.".
So what caused this purplish discoloration in her colon? John Miner, a former L.A. County prosecutor involved with the Monroe case claims a drug-laced enema was administered to Monroe.
"The toxic level was so high she would have had to take 60 to 70 pills,"
He claims this is the only way such a massive dosage of drugs could have been administered, especially since the autopsy report claimed "The stomach is almost completely empty...No residue of the pills is noted."
John Miner told others that administering a drug-laced enema was an "almost perfect crime" and "an easy one to cover up." He also implicates Monroe's housekeeper Mrs. Murray, who apparently was, in the middle of the night "washing loads after load of linens". This washed linen, which was really crime scene evidence, was put into garbage bags then loaded to a waiting pickup truck and disposed of immediately at the county dump.
This may explain the "how" it happened. We know the why as you have demonstrated.
Marilyn Monroe: A Case for Murder
Noguchi Autopsy Report: this is quite morbid, search the internet if you really want to read it
Like many teenage boys, I had a crush on Marilyn, and I don't think she was a suicide, troubled yes.
Elton John wrote a song about Norma Jeane, which expresses my feelings for her better than I ever could:
originally posted by: Sifar
reply to post by Rising Against
Interesting thread and very well written.
I read It a few days ago, watched the videos (and read the other thread by TheMythLives) and tried to read some more from the web, and now I re read some parts.
It seems to me, that this was a case of manslaughter (not premeditated murder).
To me, the events went something like this:
She took some pills in the afternoon, then RFK came over to tell her that it was over, she got hysterical, someone who was with Bobby gave her a shot, and the shot (intramuscular, there was a blue on her hip), combined with the pills she had taken before, left her comatose.
The ambulance was called, and she died either on the way to the hospital, or when she was already there (I believe the ambulance incident to be true).
Since RFK had been in the house, and the whole thing could be linked back to him, his people (secret service, or other), had to clean up the scene. A quick decision was made, and here was a dead woman who was addicted to pills and had tried to kill herself before, so the most logical thing was to make it look like suicide.
The fact that she had taken some pills and that the shot later killed her, could account for the lack of pill residue in the stomach.
The discoloration of the colon could have come from an enema taken earlier in the day (she was used to doing that after all, and there was no damage to the anal area, and I don’t think you can force an enema into someone without causing damage). The washing of the sheets (I don’t know why nobody mentioned this, or I don’t remember reading it) could be accounted for the fact that MAYBE RFK and MM had sex one last time. Gee, it was what they did when they were together anyway. And even if he meant to end it, she was being used, so he might as well have used her one more time.
The sheets had to be washed, because if semen was discovered there, it would be investigated.
The little red diary had to disappear, so the media would not read things about RFK. RFK had to get out of LA. And the autopsy samples had to disappear as well to leave the whole thing “as clean” as possible.
It was a decision they had to make fast, and therefore the inconsistencies found. I am sure if the CIA or the Mob had done this on purpose, it would have been ONE CLEAN JOB. And not the messy thing they did. They did it in a haste. And it was messy.
The mob, according to what I read in Tim Adler’s book Hollywood and the Mob, were just as eager as anyone else to know who had done it, so apparently, they had nothing to do with it.
In the end, to me, RFK’s people did kill her, but unwillingly. And then, they had to protect the boss.
One more thing, if Marilyn had talked, don’t you think the Kennedys would have used their power to pressure the media to discredit her in front of the public? By making her sound like a crazy person for example? She had been at a psychiatric hospital that same year… It would have been way easier than getting their hands dirty killing the biggest star of the time… I mean suppose the UFO story is true (I don’t think so), a sex goddess who had been in a psychiatric hospital, in 1962 talking about gray people? She would have been sent to a psychiatric all over again.
If I missed something, please tell me. But this is what I see in everything that was written here.