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Topic started on 26-1-2012 @ 06:29 AM by Vitchilo
For big pharma of course.

Grief Could Join List of Disorders
When does a broken heart become a diagnosis?

In a bitter skirmish over the definition of depression, a new report contends that a proposed change to the diagnosis would characterize grieving as a disorder and greatly increase the number of people treated for it.


Freaking psychiatrists sellouts to big pharma... the more people are drugged, the better according to them.


reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 07:09 AM by BBalazs
reply to post by Vitchilo

this is sick.
seriously.
if anyone had any doubts about big pharma, this should put them to rest.


reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 07:14 AM by flyonthewall84
reply to post by Vitchilo


While there are plenty of psychiatrists that pretty much get their paycheck from pushing pills, that certainly wouldn't be the case with all of them. In fact, psychiatrists mainly treat bipolar disorders and schizophrenia. That's certainly not all of the disorders that would cross their paths of course. Those are just the two disorders that do absolutely need medication and would not improve with therapy alone. So the problem will be if we would have grieved people going to a psychiatrist for depression in the first place. Psychiatrists aren't psychologists. They aren't trained to listen to how you feel and provide therapy without pills. In that case a psychiatrist could do the proper thing and refer you to therapy, but many would unfortunately just push an anti-depressant at you. That's why it's important to differentiate between psychiatrists, psychologists, or counselors.

The DSM has been used as the basic reference for psychologists and psychiatrists for years. It used to list that it was an average for a grieving person to grieve for 6 months or so, and then time would begin to heal so to speak, and symptoms/natural grieving would begin to slowly subside. Now, it's been changed to 3 months, which I think is really pushing it. That's getting ridiculous. So from my knowledge, grief was already set up and ready to be considered a disorder under the guise of depression - that is, if it went on for "too long". Now in caring and practical world, a good psychologist would just sense that perhaps their patient was being hit hard by their loss and that their grief was long and the suffering was carrying over into depression as well. A good psychologist would continue with therapy and if they thought it was for the BEST interest of the patient after long term grief, than they may refer them to a psychiatrists for anti-depressants.

My closing point is that we should not assume all mental health professionals are out to get us. And knowing the difference between who is the "pill pusher" (psychiatrists) and the licensed "therapist" (psychologist, counselors, etc) is highly valuable in getting yourself the right treatment. In most cases these people are going to be showing up of their own free will for therapy anyway.


reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 07:21 AM by BBalazs
reply to post by starchild10

yes I agree.
it was a generalization, but the big pharma definatley feed the flames sort of speak.
soon age will be classified as a disored, imagine if you will:
teenage disorder
mid life disorder
menapoause disorder
old people disorder...

oh sorry we actually have those.
how about gender disorder.
ohh, that too.

its ridiculous.
the body and mind are a self healing mechanism.
you are never going to trump it.
not with anything.
maybe just assist it.



reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 09:23 PM by jonnywhite
Sometimes I wonder if we lived in a more community-minded world whether depression would fall or not. Maybe our privatized, fast paced, individualized world is isolating us from each other?

But these disorders can be linked to chemical imbalances in the brain. Is it nature or nurture?

But I think what many people here miss is that people WANT DRUGS. They want an easy answer for their emotional issues. This is coming from the patients as much as it's coming from greed. This ever turning machine we term civilization is always pushing us, and I'm afraid it can cause us to be impatient too.

There's a lot of wonderful art that probably wouldn't exist if the artist wasn't allowed to be moody. I'm a firm believer that what makes humans HUMAN inc the full-range of our emotions. I wouldn't want to live in a world where everybody is a happy-go-lucky or a never-keep-him-down or a go-getter! or so on. This isn't because I value imperfection. It's because I think we're too restricted in our abilities to judge the system without error. Our estimations are almost sure to be wrong in many regards. Perfection is only a dream.

I mean it when I say that one day people will control their emotions with nanobots and computer chips. People like us that want to feel the full range of emotions will either be frowned on or forced to transition. We will be called backwards and neo-luddite and old fashioned just because we value our humanity.

This is the start of a novel. Who wants to write it? Should we let the future write it for us?
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