Obama/Soros Pushing Class Warfare

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posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Anyone who saw yesterday’s State of the Union address witnessed a new attempt at an old strategy…class warfare. Obama wants people who live off capital gains to now pay 30% taxes??



Excuse me!! Capital gains result from return on investment; investments made with TAXED money. If you or I take $100 from our take-home pay and invest it in company stock resulting in a $200 return (capital gains) for the year, we currently have to pay 15% of that money to the fed. That’s BS!!! The investment was made with money that was ALREADY taxed!! That’s MY money!! So why should I (we) have to pay taxes if that money earns money?? After all, we REINVESTED in the country….we took a RISK. We could have just kept the $100!! Besides, how is an extra 15% of capital gains going to fix this government's out of control deficit spending?? It won't even make a dent!! This is pitting American's against Americans based on social standing, and its uncalled for. The saddest part is that even working American's like me pay 15% on our modest retirement earnings!! So I pay 15%+ income tax PLUS my investment earning get taxed an addtional 15%??? That means we're already paying 45%!!! This new Obama proposition affects ALL of us who save for retirement, not just the wealthy!!

Then we have the billionaire Soros beating the class warfare drum. This is a guy who has collapsed weaker economies just to make millions rebuilding them in a way that benefits him.


Billionaire investor George Soros warned of a coming class war in the U.S. as reported by the Daily Beast, where he proudly points out that his prediction of riots in the streets has already begun.

With the Occupy movement’s beginnings having ties to funding by Soros, many believe him to be stoking this so-called class warfare. Although Soros denies directly funding the movement’s beginnings, his vast philanthropic contributions have far-reaching tentacles into many revolutions around the globe.

Even if we are to naively take Soros’s word that he was not involved in spurring these global revolutions, despite the evidence to the contrary, he clearly promotes the idea of class warfare with the political left cheering him as a crusader for good.

It seems they are using the crisis and class warfare paradigm to move the masses to support what the global elite have been striving for all along: less competition and more consolidation of power. “In the crisis period, the impossible becomes possible.” And by impossible he explains the Occupy movement has “put on the agenda issues that the institutional left has failed to put on the agenda for a quarter of a century.”
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We are all being PLAYED by these people and their cronies!! OBAMA and his handlers must be stopped!! The game is being rigged. We cannot be led to the slaughter, people!

I know ATS members won’t be tricked…

Does anybody else here see through this rhetoric??
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posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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Good, they should pay taxes on their return on investments.

I do not understand why a working person, who actually WORKS
should pay more than a person who doesn't do anything but scratch
their balls. That is what is wrong with this country, it is more lucrative
to crash a company than to lead a company, same as it is more
lucrative to do nothing than it is to work.

It is perverse and ass backwards.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 11:49 PM
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You're wrong...we pay more!! We have to pay capital gains too!!

second line!



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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I thought that Obama was going to redistribute the wealth. As it turns out he just wants the rich to pay more taxes.

Im still waiting for my free money Obama! Can you hear me?

No seriously you have to pay attention to his speech, he is setting up the Gestapo. He said that he was going to pass a law that would not let kids drop out of high school. What if they were getting home schooled?

Also he offered added incentives for kids going to college and for employers to hire them.

What about the people who are unemployed and already have an education?

He also said something about the poor being able to join the middle class. I think he destroyed the middle class, there is only rich and poor now and now he's targeting the rich. Someday we can all be poor.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 11:52 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by mastahunta
 


You're wrong...we pay more!! We have to pay capital gains too!!

second line!


And Mitt Romney makes $57,000 a day and pays less than 15% effective tax rate.

Meanwhile people who barely make that a year pay 30%



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 11:53 PM
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Yes! Exactly as I said from the beginning of OWS. It was a contrived plot by george soros and the obama admin to push class warfare. Oh how I got hammered from ALL the supporters of OWS, and now the pieces are falling into place, and it is becoming clear exactly who benefits from what.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
I thought that Obama was going to redistribute the wealth. As it turns out he just wants the rich to pay more taxes.

Im still waiting for my free money Obama! Can you hear me?

No seriously you have to pay attention to his speech, he is setting up the Gestapo. He said that he was going to pass a law that would not let kids drop out of high school. What if they were getting home schooled?

Also he offered added incentives for kids going to college and for employers to hire them.

What about the people who are unemployed and already have an education?

He also said something about the poor being able to join the middle class. I think he destroyed the middle class, there is only rich and poor now and now he's targeting the rich. Someday we can all be poor.



Oh yes, Obama waited until his last 10 months in office to spring the Gestapo on America.

Don't you guys have any respect for being square and legitimate? Sounds like relentless

13 year olds...



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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I thought that Obama was going to redistribute the wealth. As it turns out he just wants the rich to pay more taxes.

Im still waiting for my free money Obama! Can you hear me?


YA!!! You, me and the rest of the country!!


These are all ploys to get the sheeple to follow. Wherever the political wind blows you will find the elite-sponsored politicians.


He also said something about the poor being able to join the middle class. I think he destroyed the middle class, there is only rich and poor now and now he's targeting the rich. Someday we can all be poor.


That’s the plan…we’re all poor and dependent upon THEM!
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posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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it is more lucrative to do nothing than it is to work.

I hope you're referring to the Kardashians because I can't think of another case where your statement applies. Perhaps you can enlighten me.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 11:59 PM
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It's obvious, he is getting votes from the youth and trying to appeal to them.

Those of us who received an education and know history. Not the history taught post 9/11 know better.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by seabag
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I thought that Obama was going to redistribute the wealth. As it turns out he just wants the rich to pay more taxes.

Im still waiting for my free money Obama! Can you hear me?


YA!!! You, me and the rest of the country!!


These are all ploys to get the sheeple to follow. Wherever the political wind blows you will find the elite-sponsored politicians.


He also said something about the poor being able to join the middle class. I think he destroyed the middle class, there is only rich and poor now and now he's targeting the rich. Someday we can all be poor.




That’s the plan…we’re all poor and dependent upon THEM!


You can be dependent on the banks all you want, I say tax them and their corporatist
cronies. I am sick of paying for their private system and their mistakes too



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by Maluhia
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it is more lucrative to do nothing than it is to work.

I hope you're referring to the Kardashians because I can't think of another case where your statement applies. Perhaps you can enlighten me.


How about be a bank and sell hundreds of billions worth of useless nothing?

Thanks



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 12:01 AM
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Im not dependent on squat. In fact I don't even have a bank account.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 12:03 AM
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Just seems to hard to believe that a increase in a tax has to be "class warfare".
Well maybe War needs to happen, the middle and lower class have had their wealth sucked away from them and maybe its time to fight back.
What is the alternative, more taxes on people in lower brackets who can barely exist on the money they have?
those of them that have jobs.

There is an existing thread , on why the Defense budget should not be touched, so where is the money to be found.
At the current rate , if things don't change there could very well be a war on the Rich.

Think French Revolution .



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by mastahunta
 


It's obvious, he is getting votes from the youth and trying to appeal to them.

Those of us who received an education and know history. Not the history taught post 9/11 know better.


Yes, because we are going to have to pay for these tax cuts and these corporatist policies that
have been in place since 1980.

If you know history, you would know that this country did much better in the 50's and 60's
when the rich were taxed appropriately.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 12:04 AM
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Yes! Exactly as I said from the beginning of OWS. It was a contrived plot by george soros and the obama admin to push class warfare. Oh how I got hammered from ALL the supporters of OWS, and now the pieces are falling into place, and it is becoming clear exactly who benefits from what.


You and me both!! The connection has been there but it’s becoming painfully obvious as this plan comes to fruition.

I’m not going to get excited for two reasons:

1) We’re still going to get slammed for this view here on ATS (where all the conspiracy theorists supposedly are
) and,

2) There likely won’t be enough people who see it in time to stop it, so we’re still screwed!



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
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Im not dependent on squat. In fact I don't even have a bank account.


So wht are you doing the Banks work for them, are you a pro bono opinion
maker or what?



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 12:06 AM
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He's just trying to tax the rich because the Unions need more money to keep democrats getting elected. The Unions need more money because they EXPLOIT the middle class and make promises they can't afford to keep.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by seabag
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You're wrong...we pay more!! We have to pay capital gains too!!

second line!


And Mitt Romney makes $57,000 a day and pays less than 15% effective tax rate.

Meanwhile people who barely make that a year pay 30%


And the money Mitt Romney invested to get those returns was taxed at 35%, which is far higher than you or I get taxed!

And Mitt is part of the 1% who earn millions per year. The other 300,000,000+ Americans pay the same 15% capital gains tax TOO. So you want our crap to go up to 30%???? WTF?



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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Obama won't be happy until we are all paying and paying and paying more.

We aren't smart enough to keep our own money. Government knows better.

This weak and failed attempt to incite class warfare is just another battle we have to face.





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