Scientists engineer a human "kidney cell" to generate a visible laser beam ... incredible !!, page
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reply posted on 25-1-2012 @ 11:43 PM by sonik
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hahaha "Designer Skin"... good one
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reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 01:25 AM by ShockTruther
Whoever wrote this article for Wired Magazine was obviously lacking in knowledge of the subject being covered. The article is suggesting that these cells are shooting out lasers when in fact they are simply emitting light via fluorescence This is no big deal and is in fact commonplace in microbiology.

Let me break it down for you. They inserted the gene for 'GFP' aka 'Green Fluorescent Protein' into the cells. So now the cells incorporate a fluorescent protein somewhere in their cell structure. The scientists then stimulated the cells, or more accurately, stimulated the fluorescent proteins in the cells with "blue light". Again, saying "blue light" points to the fact that the article author was clueless. The "blue light" was an ultraviolet lamp. Ultraviolet light is necessary for the production of fluorescence. (Just google fluorescence and read about how it works.)

The "big deal" is that the scientists were able to focus this light into a "laser beam" with microscale mirrors. The rounded shape of the cells made the focusing more efficient. The mirrors and focusing are the big accomplishment here, not the light coming from the cells. In fact, getting cells to light up under UV is an everyday occurence in many thousands of labs around the world.

So, practical applications?
-Living environmental sensors using optical circuits for communication? Yep. These sensors could potentially detect/feel anything that a human cell can. (or a bacterial cell, or a plant cell...) Pretty cool because ultrafine sensitivity when probing for environmental contaminants may be achieved. Also, robots may be given a "real" sense of touch, taste, and smell!
-Making cells into living lasers? Sorry, but no way. The mircomirrors are absolutely necessary. The focusing of the light is what makes the "laser".
-Signaling aliens using plankton? Again, no. These cells produce visible light, but the light is very weak. It would take a whole ocean of these things to produce light of similar intensity to that of the Aurora. You might be able to see it from the Moon, on the night-side of the Earth, but no further.


So yeah, unless you want to sit under a UV lamp and have your retinas burned out while developing skin cancer, then you aren't going to have glow-in-the-dark-laser-skin. And the idea of "laser beams inside a patient’s body...to lase hazardous or cancerous tissue"? That won't work unless you have a good way to get micromirrors inserted right next to the cancer cells. Even then the strength of the "laser" will only be enough to piss off the cancer, not to kill it.


Watch out for "science" articles like this. There are far too many people who have the title "science writer" with no obvious qualifications to be called such.


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reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 06:48 AM by AgentSmith
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I think you'll find you're the only person bringing weapons into it, I'm not even sure how this could be weaponised in any way.
Perhaps you have the problem?


reply posted on 26-1-2012 @ 07:53 AM by Arbitrageur
Originally posted by luciddream
I think u guys over exaggerating it, its not a laser coming out, its a small glow of light, it cant be called laser because its not projected.
Well it's projected, but not with laser-like properties so I agree it's an exaggeration to call it a laser. Let's compare and contrast laser properties to this thing they call a laser that isn't a laser:

LASER
The emitted laser light is notable for its high degree of spatial and temporal coherence, unattainable using other technologies.

Spatial coherence typically is expressed through the output being a narrow beam which is diffraction-limited, often a so-called "pencil beam." Laser beams can be focused to very tiny spots, achieving a very high irradiance.
Note the "spatial coherence", and ""focused into tiny spots", which are characteristics of lasers obviously not present in the description in the OP article:

Inside an optical resonator, the cell can generate green laser light (the irregular structure of the cell, however, makes the laser spot have a random pattern).
This "random pattern" is not very laser-like. It's lacking in spatial coherence and isn't focused into a tiny spot like lasers are.

I think we all need to read science articles with a critical eye to find out what is really going on. I'm glad to see at least some people are doing this, so congratulations to you.

For those who believe the headlines...they are unreliable so you really can't believe them, until you read the article very carefully. I find in many cases the description in the story actually proves the headline is false or at least not completely true, and I'd say that's more or less the case here as others have pointed out.

I'd also say the potential applications they cite sound pretty far fetched.

Now if you read the actual scientific papers published by the scientists, those tend to be somewhat more reliable than the articles written by the non-scientist science writers.
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