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Originally posted by dawnstar
The pentagon has warned about global warning...
Originally posted by ThunderCloud
Originally posted by dawnstar
The pentagon has warned about global warning...
The Pentagon has an emergency plan in place in case global warming is real. They also have emergency plans for the invasion of any country on the planet (including the U.S., in case an enemy takes it and the territory must be re-taken!), and even an emergency plan in case of an alien invasion of Earth.
Originally posted by el_illumbrato
Originally posted by ThunderCloud
Originally posted by dawnstar
The pentagon has warned about global warning...
The Pentagon has an emergency plan in place in case global warming is real. They also have emergency plans for the invasion of any country on the planet (including the U.S., in case an enemy takes it and the territory must be re-taken!), and even an emergency plan in case of an alien invasion of Earth.
how do u know? is there a leaked plan or satatement somewhere online i can read? or any key words i can use in a search engine to look for it??
Originally posted by dawnstar
regardless of what you think the cause of climate change is, it's getting kind of hard to deny that it is happening.
Originally posted by Jubilee
The Australian Govt has also refused to ratify the Koyoto Protocol. Their refusal to cut down on greenhouse gas emissions is to save job losses!!!
Australian greenhouse gas emissions per capita are one of the highest in
Originally posted by el_illumbrato
i think i should become a scientist like astrocreep so that im unaffected by all the disinformation out there. Astrocreep, you know of any independent organisations out there which publish realistic infomation regarding ecology and the environment?
Once thing we cant deny is thAT IT stinks IN THE CITIES! Pollution is def the cause of that! Trust, try going for a jog or bike ride till your out of breath, then go down to euston road and take a whiff... its nasty!
Is the trend between increased asthma and air pollution disinformation too?
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
But, if you want to go back to sleep that it's all just a commie plot......
IF you want my opinion, they are going after the smokers, the twinkie and big mac eaters ect, because those people are blatantly doing what everyone else is trying to forget that they are doing to themselves.
Originally posted by el_illumbrato
IF you want my opinion, they are going after the smokers, the twinkie and big mac eaters ect, because those people are blatantly doing what everyone else is trying to forget that they are doing to themselves.
what are you on about? Those fast greasy food eating, cancer loving and high cholestrol people are loved by the corporations! It more likelt they'd go after vegans/vegetarians like me who grow our own food, dont eat rubbish and do as many activities as possible (while advocating not spreading cancer while killing yourself with it.
i think cars should just be banned. On my bicycle, i see the motorists swearing there heads off daily in fron of their lil children, getting mad, almost running me over and 2 days ago, a lorry actually did knock me off my bike. Did they even stop? no? If motorists are going to cause deaths and fight each other because their brains cant keep calm while driving, i say we ban cars, and have a utopia like in H.G wells utopia where "cycle tracks abound". Even in authur c clarkes, in the "songs of distant earth", in a colony living in the distant future, everyone is geting around on bicycles and by walking.
I myself have stopped cycling now too because of the motorists and so i now just walk everywhere, which means im stuck walking about 4-10 miles a day.
About the disinfo about global warming. How does it benefit corporations if this is the case, apart from with regards to catalytic converters? Doesnt the public pressure and fear just results in more stringent industrial rules and regulations regarding pollution and therefore higher costs for them?
Originally posted by astrocreep
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
But, if you want to go back to sleep that it's all just a commie plot......
I take it that was directed at me?
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
[ - No, really, it wasn't.
It was aimed at any and all who still refuse to accept the overwhelming weight of evidence - accepted by the vast bulk of scientists world-wide and for decades - all pointing at the fact that global climate disruption is happening as a direct result of mankind's actions and who dismiss efforts to do something about it as futile and, even more laughably, as some sort of politically slanted 'plot'.
Originally posted by astrocreep
So, then any change from the status quo is climate disruption? Look, I'm not advocating pollution of air or water, actually just the opposite, but when we look at the Earth's history, we see evidence of much more pronounced changes than we are seeing now.
I can full well accept the nasty localized effects of man but to pretend we do not live on an ever changing and very dynamic planet is ...well..its just uneducated..for lack of a better word.
Let me ask you a question point blank and see if I get a straight answer since you seem to be on the global warming agenda.
Do you discount all other factors which might cause this planet's climate to change including changing solar cycles and changes in the aethenosphere?
Do you not accept that the 300 year warming trend since the Little Ice Age at the end of the mid-evil era preceeded the rise in CO2 levels?
Do you assert the notion that a portion of Earth's surface should be covered ice permanently ..and furthermore put forth the notion that it always has been?
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Now I'd like to ask you a question.....
Why do you think that almost the entire scientific world agrees with the idea of 'global warming' now.....many of whom have been persuaded to this position?
The idea of it being some sort of nationally based and biased or anti-capatalist based 'plot' is absurd.....so, why then? What do you think it is really all about?
How does recycling etc equate to personal control?
[edit on 4-10-2004 by sminkeypinkey]
Originally posted by astrocreep
Actually, global climate change as a result of human influence is by no means a proven fact nor is it accepted by the majority of scientists in the field.
Originally posted by earthtone
The earth's temperature is ever changing, but we are a contributing factor at this point in history.