WWIII - USS Enterprise, a dying Legend to be the FALSE FLAG !! ??

OK. I take it all back. I'm really trying to get into the spirit of conspiracy here, so I found a relationship between the Liberty and Iran. Yer gonna love it!

The Liberty was a research ship AGTR-5. So I got to reaseaching that ship and discovered the AGTR-4, which was named the Belmont. It mostly hung around North and South America during its service, but did see some time in the Indian Ocean. But the connection? It's original name, when built in 1944, was *drum roll".....The Iran Victory!

So, obviously the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty off the coast of Israel in the Mediterranean Sea in 1967 is very tightly linked to the upcoming Iranian attack on an American carrier in the Straits of Hormuz, 1,000 miles and nearly 50 years away.

Sometimes you just have to dig a little further to find the true secret connections between things and events.

Every major war in the 20th Century was "kick started" by a false flag event.
Most likely, most of the major wars of the history of the world where "kick started" by either a false flag, rumor or a lie.

Originally posted by TimesUp

Every major war in the 20th Century was "kick started" by a false flag event.
Most likely, most of the major wars of the history of the world where "kick started" by either a false flag, rumor or a lie.

Or a country attacking a neutral country's fleet of ships, uh like Pear Harbor!

The aircraft carrier is the very epitome of 'projection.' No need for big battleship guns that need to be in range of the enemy since you have aircraft with unlimited range (with mid-air refueling).

'Sailing right through the strait of Hormuz' isn't tactical. It isn't political. It isn't necessary.

Originally posted by stringman
USS Enterprise current status is "Active". Even though it was due to be decommissioned in 2009. As part of a larger strike force it is at or enroute to the Strait of Hormuz. If I was still active, I would have to be dragged kicking and screaming onto the deck of this historic boat. IMHO is should be a tourist attraction at Norfolk, VA _javascript:icon('

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Stringman

Don't be so quick to count off ships like the Enterprise or even the Battleships, these were and are awesome weapons and other third word countries have nothing like them!
Look at our WW2 battleships (that someone called 'old useless ships) during the 'Nam war (and even the New Jersey during the Gulf war) played Hell with the enemy! The 16" guns on the Battleships fire a projectile about 23 miles! After the 'nam war the Viet Cong said after the war that of all our weapons (including 'my' B-52, LOL) the thing that scared them the most was our Battleships and during the several peace talks that was the 1st thing they would mention asking us to stop shelling their positions (over 20 miles inland).
The only reason the New Jersey was taken out of service was the scaling back of the military to save money.
People get to thinking just because something is 'old' is belongs in a museum but look at my favorite bomber the B-52, these will be in service till the middle of the 21st century making some of them (when they retire) 100 years old! I'm not kidding, that is the plan as the B-1 and other supersonic bombers have their place but for 'carpet bombing' the B-52 is the best bomber EVER built!
Let's do research people and not just post about how you 'feel' about something, let's bring out the facts!

What's great is the fact that if this truely IS what they are planning
they would most certainly do a google search BEFORE the day they carried it out just to make sure no one was on to them which could compromise the mission.

I would imagine they would type in keywords like
USS Enterprise,False flag.

Here
is what comes up.

They would have to lock down the internet first.

Why? All the other stuff they've done has been straight-up stolen from films or ads or even their own crisis scenarios. Why change tack now?

If this is will achieve their aims, they will do it. The public has bought their previous actions without significant question and anyone asking questions is shut down quickly with ridicule and solid statements by the more credible politicians. Deny, deny, deny. We all know its power.

Jan 26 - An Iranian F-14 military jet crashed off the Persian Gulf coast today, Reuters has cited Iran's Fars news agency as saying. Local authorities said the plane had been in the air for three minutes when it crashed near the town of Bushihr at 4:30 local time. The governor of the Southern province of Bushir later in the day announced that the wreckage of the jet has been found in the Gulf. There was no exact report on the fate of the two members of the crew. While the Governor of Bushihr, Jafar Pour-Kabgani says that the pilot and copilot were killed in the incident, Fars news agency claims the pilot could survive the crash.The F-14 was retired from the active U.S. Navy fleet in September 2006. The F-14 was only in service with the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force, having been exported to Iran in 1976 when the US had amicable diplomatic relations with the then government of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Sources estimate the number of F-14A still in IrRAF service by 44.

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And the USS Stennis is now making a port call in Singapore, thus having survived another false flag accusation and a trip through the Straits. It is scheduled to be back at Bremerton in March. The USS Lincoln is still North of the Strait of Hormuz, so it will have to turn around one of these days and go back through. Meanwhile the USS Vinson is in the Arabian Sea. The USS Enterprise is still off the coast of the US.

The newest carrier in the fleet, USS GHW Bush (commissioned 1/2009), has departed Norfolk on 1/24, whereabouts and mission unknown. Since it just got back to Norfolk on December 10th after a long deployment it is unlikely this will be another long one.

Originally posted by Badgered1
The aircraft carrier is the very epitome of 'projection.' No need for big battleship guns that need to be in range of the enemy since you have aircraft with unlimited range (with mid-air refueling).

'Sailing right through the strait of Hormuz' isn't tactical. It isn't political. It isn't necessary.

Umm we have a US Naval Base in Bahrain...so getting to the base it is necessary to go through the strait of hormuz, which are international waters.

Also, during the last two cruises of the carriers that have recently transited the strait, we still had troops in Iraq, which require air cover. Another reason for the carrier to be there.

You may disagree with US Policy in the region. But the fact is the strait is international waters and we have every right to sail any ship through it. Especially so when we have allies (sorta), interests, and troops on the ground around the waters that are only accessable through the strait.

On a semi seperate note, I got into a debate at work on R. Paul's foreign policy and the statement was made that, "if the russians had a fleet in the gulf of mexico or the carribean we would be threatening war just like Iran". To which I had to throw out the following:

www.foxnews.com...

defensetech.org...

www.youtube.com...

www.airforcetimes.com...

The Russians HAVE put battlecruisers near our waters (but still international) and have put bombers near and even in our airspace. We haven't threatened war or anything....

Originally posted by Screwed
What's great is the fact that if this truely IS what they are planning
they would most certainly do a google search BEFORE the day they carried it out just to make sure no one was on to them which could compromise the mission.

I would imagine they would type in keywords like
USS Enterprise,False flag.

Here
is what comes up.

They would have to lock down the internet first.

If the Evil Ones really were planning something dastardly, I think they would neither know nor care what the internetz thinks of it. They'd just use the clever tactic of 'Not Telling Anyone'. That means doing something in secret and not leaving coded messages in trailers for toy tie-in action movies.

And even if someone did twig, what does it matter? What exactly have we achieved by talking about this here? 'Tell the People!!' is the tiresome cry. But that just means more typing on the internet. That's not action.

People on this site overestimate their importance in global politics.

Waking this thread back up after watching yesterday's 60 Minutes' interview with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta... for whatever other reasons may think we are over there (oil, for sure), NOT letting Iran get control of a nuke does seem to be of paramount importance(!) - You can see it, in his eyes and hear it in his voice.

I hope some people caught the segment.

S&F for the thread.



(Hell, the segment after that was good, too: Roger Goodell / NFL: Socialism and Capitalism at their best)

Originally posted by SquirrelNutz
Waking this thread back up after watching yesterday's 60 Minutes' interview with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta... for whatever other reasons may think we are over there (oil, for sure), NOT letting Iran get control of a nuke does seem to be of paramount importance(!) - You can see it, in his eyes and hear it in his voice.

I hope some people caught the segment.

S&F for the thread.

(Hell, the segment after that was good, too: Roger Goodell / NFL: Socialism and Capitalism at their best)

I didn't see it, but I agree....we probably know much more then is in the press.

Everyone is so caught up in the "Bankerst/Elite/NWO" theory of war, that they forget that Radical Islam is a threat, and Iran has been the biggest supporter/purveyor of it.

Well lookee here. Would seem that Clif High over at HPH has his piemaking on hold in anticipation of this event:

On March 2, 2012, the zionists (isreali mossad and cia agents) who are the stooges of the central banksters, will attack an American naval ship (as they did with the USS Liberty). They will try to sink this ship with a huge loss of life of American sailors. They will pretend to be Iranians to make you mad at Iran. They intend to provoke officialdom in the US and Russia and China into killing us all.

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I'm pretty ambivalent about numerology, but I find it interesting and I do think that the powers that be/were attribute a great deal of importance to it. These are some of my musings on the numerology surrounding the Enterprise and this particular deployment:

The Enterprise is publicized as being able to achieve a maximum speed of around 33.6 knots (38.7 mph; 62.2 km/h). Assuming an average cruising speed of 30 knots during her 8166 nautical mile journey from Norfolk to the Strait of Hormuz, I calculated a transit time of 11 days.

So we have CVN-65 (6+5=11) departing on 11 March on her 22nd deployment, traveling for 11 days, and arriving on 22 March. Understanding that certain factions amongst the power elite are somewhat obsessed with occult numerology, what might be the significance of these two numbers? A quick search uncovered the following :

• Apollo 11 was the first manned spacecraft to land on the Moon, returning to Earth with 22kg of lunar rock samples.
  
• American Airlines Flight 11 struck the North Tower of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. It had 11 crew members and 81 passengers, for a total of 92 (9+2=11) people which died on that flight.
  
• The solar sunspot cycle is approximately 11 years.
  
• 11 is the sacred number of the Magnum Opus (Great Work) in Aleister Crowley’s spiritual philosophy of Thelemic Magick.
  
• In numerology, 11, 22 and 33 are called the Master Numbers. The 22 is considered the most powerful of all numbers. It is often called the Master Builder or Spiritual Master in Form.
  
• There are 22 major arcana cards in the divinatory tarot.
  
• The Titanic was traveling at a speed of 22 knots when it crashed into an iceberg.
  
• There are 22 channels linking the ten “Sephiroth” in the Sefirotic Tree of the Kabbalah.
  
• The Arab League was created on 22 March 1945.
  
• The Enterprise is the oldest of 11 carriers currently in the service of the US Navy.
  
• On 22 January 2012 defense secretary Leon Panetta was on board the Enterprise, and announced that the ship “will steam through the Strait of Hormuz in a direct message to Tehran” on it’s final deployment.
  

bibliographic reference links are in the source

What's the latest on this boat's location and/or plans?

This (OP) still seems like a viable solution (for many things).

the enterprise took a trip to the gulf in '10 or '11 as well

sorry

Originally posted by SquirrelNutz
What's the latest on this boat's location and/or plans?

This (OP) still seems like a viable solution (for many things).

Enterprise is still cruising around the 5th Fleet AOR in the Gulf along with the Lincoln, which is in Bahrain at the moment. The LHD7 Iwo Jima is also in the area.This configuration is pretty normal for the area. The Carl Vinson is in or just left Hawaii and headed home. Nothing else out of the ordinary.

Originally posted by wulff

Originally posted by TimesUp

Every major war in the 20th Century was "kick started" by a false flag event.
Most likely, most of the major wars of the history of the world where "kick started" by either a false flag, rumor or a lie.

Or a country attacking a neutral country's fleet of ships, uh like Pear Harbor!

Really? May want to study up on that one, as well.

Even the elite isn't dumb enough to bomb the shrine of the most innovative nerds of the last 50 years. Trekkies.

Without them we would not have what we have come to know as (Personal computers, Cell phones(pagers), Bluetooth (Uhura's ear thing)TOS), (( anything from the apple store, Kindle or other ebooks, tablet computers) TNG & Later) and a long list of others.

They know they would never get away with it (would be debunked by credible former trekkies who now have multiple PhDs) so the USS Enterprise is safe from a false flag