Originally posted by Harte
Originally posted by BBalazs
When do you think an advanced ancient civilization existed and why?
I don't deny the possibility, however, since you asked for an opinion, here goes:
"When do you think an advanced ancient civilization existed ?
Never
"Why?"
There's not a single iota of evidence for it.
Harte
Not only is there no evidence for it there is abundant evidence against it.
I guess these civilizations were able to disregard the basic laws of physics and chemistry and built a civilzation without using any materials
available on earth. Because they didn't use any of them, they didn't use any iron, if they did we would find evidence of their mines, no evidence of
that. They didn't use any of the escalating scale of energy sources, such as coal, natural gas, oil, hydroelectric or atomic energy.
You have to use a starter energy source to develop the technologies that allow you to develop more efficient energy sources that allow you to develop
new technologies.
In our case we started with fire, which allowed us to develop a whole host of escalating technologies, the use of fire allows the development of
ceramics, which in turn led to basic metalurgy, cuprous and basic ferrous alloys,.
The advancement of ceramics , iron and copper alloys led to superior manufacturing and processing tech.
When you have sufficent iron processing capabilities, you can take advantage of steam power. Once you have steam power you can build bigger iron
things like locomotives for moving the stuff needed for the complex society required for this level of advancement. You can also build the steam
shovels needed to mine the coal needed to produce the next metal required .for further advancement, steels,. Steels can be made in small amounts the
old way but to make industrial quantities, you have to make use of coal, in such quantities only rail movement of product can accomplish.
Now that you can make steam shovels and locomotives, you can make the next energy jump, hydroelectric, because now you have the tools and
engineering experience for complex machines and procceses.
Once you have hydroelectric power, and have accepted AC over DC you fawn really step up your manufacturing game as a whole new world of materials are
now within reach, like nickel heat resistant alloys, or aluminum which cannot be made without AC electricity. The realm of materials that would not
exist without AC is vast. Our entire world relies on AC.
Once you have reliable AC and hitemp alloys you can make another leap to nuclear power. And so on and so on.
edit on 21-5-2012 by punkinworks10 because: content
