Are you downloading torrents? Then you should know this.

Originally posted by mainidh
Some ISP's reject these notices to warn their clients, as it's all huff and bluff legally.

I don't have paytv. I watch free to air. I don't pay for it and I ignore adverts. I'm getting FREE TV shows that someone else made. Shocking revelation, I do the same thing with torrents.

I watch tv shows that our networks otherwise neglect (Im not waiting till 2am or midnight for a new episode of being human, for instance)... despite that new episode being almost a year old.

So, off to eztv I trot, and happily consider what I'm doing no different than if I were to watch it on tv,

Uhm.. er... Networks pay for T.V.programming (evenold tv"reruns"; syndication)
and fill it with ads to pay for it. Do torrent sites pay for their "content"???????????I don't use it("torent"); I don' t know but I think stolen first run movies are outright theft.

Originally posted by mainidh


tivo/pvr it and skip ads.

All the baloney surrounding this is made moot by the fact you can watch a tv show on free tv, because as an end user, I don't pay for it.

In a way, it's kinda like using adblock plus for real life.

As for movies? Well, 99% of the torrents you get are crap cam jobs or r5's with added audio, with foreign subs. I'd rather see a good movie in a theater than put up with that. And I do. But I'm not going to go see every movie that comes out simply because "That's the morally proper thing to do, or else you're a thieving scumbag pirate!" -- I will submit to those who espouse that logic, that some of the studios put out FALSE trailers to entice people to go see a movie... One that shows all the good bits in 30 seconds, when the movie itself is 99% rubbish. Not paying for that. Have done in the past, will do no longer.

I'll check it out, then go see it. I always pay for what I take, as long as it's worth the amount asked. If it's not, the no loss to anyone. Crap does not pay for itself, quality does however.

Music? I don't download music.. why bother, just bung youtube up and search for it, but then, are youtube paying for copyright ? Lol.. no, but, google is master with lawyers out the kazoo, even the RIAA step back.

ISP's sending you infringement notices can be ignored as far as I'm concerned. Unless you're in a country legally bound to such laws. And if you are, why the hell are you not using peerblock or something.

pathooey on the greed mongers.

edit on 25-1-2012 by mainidh because: (no reason given)

nope nothing over here man

reply to post by Nick_X


It depends on where in the "third world" you are, i'm in Mexico and a couple years ago i got a notice about this because i connected a machine to my network and it had a bittorrent client running in the background, it was sharing a movie and i didn't notice, i fixed the machine, sent it back and a couple days later got a notice about illegal distribution of the movie, they were saying to stop sharing the movie or i would be sued, luckily by then the machine was already gone, but they are indeed 'watching' even in the third world :-)

And by watching i mean they are themselves distributing the illegal content, and then when you connect to their servers, they log your ip and then sue you, nobody sues them because they are doing illegal activities online of course.

reply to post by demoncleaner


You get the emails because the torrents are gaff torrents in the sense they purposely put them out to catch you...also if you are downloading and uploading a lot then your internet provider may be upset over the bandwith useage...

Switzerland have very recently legalized the process of digitaly copying copyrighted media. A recent study by there government and police authorities[its available online] decided that it is utterly wasteful to devote resources into policing it and if truth be told it serves nothing but to stifle creativity.

Holland will probably legalize it soon also, I imagine many other countries will follow, so if you do not want extradited to an American gulag, move to any number of left leaning European countries.

Originally posted by Akaname

I have always Loved this video.

Hmmmm I GUESS "COPYING others work" is no longer frowned upon in grade school?It mustbe Okay now to"look on" your neighbor's test paper... even though he/she studied(did the work) and you are just a "LEECH"!

wtf?

All these" occupy-esque" excuses:" I only make .09 a day..I want first run movies too"!Make me vomit( y'all are messsed up!FUBAR!)...

reply to post by Nick_X

LMAO! true that. when i went to Belize, they were playing pirated movies ON AIR!

people who "pirate" go to the movies more and purchase more games and music. industries don't lose profits to piracy, and i think the current system of largely not enforcing the law with regards to torrents keeps them semi-underground, so i like how things are right now.

Did everyone see this a bit back

INTERNETS, 18th of January 2012. PRESS RELEASE, FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE.

Over a century ago Thomas Edison got the patent for a device which would "do for the eye what the phonograph does for the ear". He called it the Kinetoscope. He was not only amongst the first to record video, he was also the first person to own the copyright to a motion picture.

Because of Edisons patents for the motion pictures it was close to financially impossible to create motion pictures in the North american east coast. The movie studios therefor relocated to California, and founded what we today call Hollywood. The reason was mostly because there was no patent. There was also no copyright to speak of, so the studios could copy old stories and make movies out of them - like Fantasia, one of Disneys biggest hits ever.

So, the whole basis of this industry, that today is screaming about losing control over immaterial rights, is that they circumvented immaterial rights. They copied (or put in their terminology: "stole") other peoples creative works, without paying for it. They did it in order to make a huge profit. Today, they're all successful and most of the studios are on the Fortune 500 list of the richest companies in the world. Congratulations - it's all based on being able to re-use other peoples creative works. And today they hold the rights to what other people create.

Piratebay press release

So, to say that we are stealing there digital property is just a Fat Cat getting fatter & there is no way I'll help feed it! So, "Pirate" no, someone with common since, yes!
(F&S OP )

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