Originally posted by dilly1
Your family needs help. Mental help. If they and like yourself would really be objective and understand how freakin violent and difficult it is to
travel in space; you wouldn't be drinking the koolaid.
And knowing planes quite well or even if they lived in a military base doesn't make one an expert. No one is an expert with ufo's; only the human
that design that specific craft is the expert . that designer would not see the craft as a UFO,but a FO.... Your friends and family are not
aeronautical space engineers.
The story being shared is nothing but a story and should never be taken seriously because there is no proof to prove it . Eyewitness accounts,video
and pictures are all in the same boat. They all can be fabricated.
Yes,,I have many time seen things I could not identify. And?? So what?? That doesn't mean I allow my imagination to get the best of me. Which is
exactly what is happening here on this thread and all over this forum. If you allow your imagination take control of your logic you will be a freakin
"head case". Okay!
I didn't attack the OP. I am stating logic ,,,reality. The alien option comes from the imagination.
Ps- is that the "beastmaster" holding a rifle?
So you go from insulting the OP to insulting me for pointing it out, or for sharing information that you prefer to ignore. Are you TRYING to destroy
your own credibility?
One, I did NOT say that I thought these were beings from some other planet. if you actually read the post, or anything else I have posted on this
topic, you would know that this is NOT what I believe.
Two, you keep talking about this "violent" space, as though you know more than anyone else. Newsflash; you don't. We have had a space program for
ages. I watched the original moon landing on television. Was young, but I remember it. We have had people in space, and have had MANY probes even
farther. Is it easy? No, but it isn't nearly as bad as you try to make it seem. Have you even been to NASA? When the space shuttle first came
out, I watched the Enterprise flying into Kelly AFB. As a AFJROTC student, I studied aeronautics, and we had a TON of detailed info on those craft.
Even behind the scenes stuff at NASA that most never see. You seen to forget that we HAVE traveled in space. That people have lived there (and some
do now) in space stations. Don't even try talking about objectivity, either, as you clearly have none. No opinion but yours can be considered, in
your eyes. All others are met with derision.
Knowing planes quite well DOES make one an expert on PLANES. meaning, as I stated, that this person can easily identify most military aircraft, and
that they have a good idea of what is possible, even if secret, and what should not be, given acknowledged technology. THAT is what I stated. I
didn't claim, at any point, that this person was a UFO expert. Read what I actually said. Plus, you have NO IDEA what anyone in my family does for
a living, or what training or education they have, so don't be presumptuous. People with some education in aircraft can say what UFO could be a
potential test craft, and what is too different to believe it is that. If you can't accept this, that's your issue.
The disdain you have for evidence is beyond any logic. What proof do you want, if you reject ALL that there is? Videos, pictures, eyewitness
accounts - all these are good in a court of law, if there is no reason to think they are faked. There is evidence they can't say is faked, and that
they can't explain. Does that mean visitors from other worlds? No, not necessarily. It does, though, mean there are things we don't know, and it
isn't unreasonable to look for possible explanations. If you don't like beings from other worlds, then offer some other reasonable explanation.
Actually contribute to the thread, instead of insulting everyone else for doing so.
If you saw things you can't explain, what did you do? A logical person looks for explanations, even if those seem unlikely. Imagination is part of
this. That isn't a bad thing, either. Ever read a novel? Watch a movie? Play a video game? Those things require imagination. Yes, we should
look for proof. Yes, we should rule out the more mundane possibilities first. That doesn't mean closing the door on anything else, though. What do
you do when none of the mundane explanations work? Simply quit?
Yes, it is attacking people to call them crazy, head cases, etc., simply because they believe things that you don't. Disagree all you like, but with
a bit of respect. With alternative ideas. Defend those ideas, do research into them, make your point.
And yes, that is Marc Singer, the "beastmaster". That's from "V", the original miniseries. He played one of the main characters. Whether you
believe in aliens or not, pretty entertaining stuff. Two parts, the main one, and a final chapter. Both available on DVD.