Wikipedia categorizes 9/11 truth as 'denialism', page 6
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reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 05:55 PM by FCraig
Of course the 9/11 conspiracy theories are delusional. Why, the conspiracy theorists even believe that five men were seen cheering while video taping the Twin Towers before the 2nd plane hit, that they were arrested and held in custody by the authorities for three months before being set free to return to their home country, and that they then appeared on national TV claiming that they were sent "to document the event". Clearly this cannot be true unless, of course, Osama Bin Laden sent them.

They also believe that the FBI was telling the truth when they testified under oath at the Zacarias Moussaoui trial in 2006 that there were no cell phone calls from Flight 77, the flight where we learned that there were terrorists on board with box cutters. Clearly this is also dillusional because, if it were true, we would not know about the box cutters.

The conspiracy theorists, as they are derisively called, also believe that scientists discovered a highly explosive material called nano-thermite in the dust of 9/11. This, too, cannot be true because it would mean that explosives were used, which we know was not the case because NIST, who refused to test for explosives, said so.

These conspiracy theorists also believe that all 82 columns of WTC7 failed instantaneously, causing the building to drop over the first hundred feet in free fall. This of course is not true because NIST reported that WTC7 fell in a progressive collapse starting from column 79 across the entire building, when it just suddenly collapsed. NIST does, however, admit that the building did free fall for 2.25 seconds.

The list of delusions goes on and on. Read more about them at ae911truth.org.


reply posted on 30-1-2012 @ 09:59 AM by magicrat
reply to post by Rafe_

Thanks for the support, Rafe_.

I had been lurking here for years - mostly in this forum - before I became a member and started commenting, so I've got a pretty good idea of who I said that to - but in his discussions with me he's been civil, respectful and intellectually honest, and I'm trying to extend him the same courtesy. I really am hoping for more good discussions in the future.


reply posted on 30-1-2012 @ 11:40 AM by hooper
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It's a denialism both ways.

No, its not.
Either you're in denial that 9/11 was an elite high-tech plot.

Sorry, there's nothing to deny there because there is no evidence to support the contention.
Or you're in denial that 9/11 was a terrorist attack by cave people with box cutters.

Cave people? You realize that most of the terrorist were probably better educated then you are.
Who has more motive?

The "cave" people.
Who's in denial?

9/11 truthers.


reply posted on 30-1-2012 @ 11:53 AM by ProudBird
reply to post by FCraig



Yes, indeed. Your attempt at sarcasm is noted.

Four paragraphs, each outlining a certain common delusion that is repeated by the so-called "9/11 truthers", and each paragraph filled with factually incorrect, or dripping innuendo intended to be snide and snarky.

The "five in a van" story has been debunked long ago....still, the lie is repeated.

The FBI testimony at the Moussaoui trial is mis-characterized ("lied" about):

(1) Immediately after 9/11, the FBI had described, or at least accepted the description of, about 15 of the reported calls from the airliners as cell phone calls. (2) In 2003, a prominent member of the 9/11 Truth Movement argued persuasively that, given the cell phone technology available in 2001, calls from high-altitude airliners would have been impossible. (3) The FBI report for the Moussaoui trial affirmed only two cell phone calls from the airliners, both of which were from United Flight 93 after it had descended to 5,000 feet.


The "nano-thermite"? Another LIE. Based solely on one person's (Stephen Jones') flawed results, and incorrect assessment form them. The claim that thermite is a high "explosive", also a lie.

The incorrect and specious altering of the NIST report, and the attributing to it things that aren't even included in the study, more lying.

Gee, wonder where all this misinformation and lying comes from?

Oh, yeah....it was at the bottom of the post:

....ae911truth....




That was the first mistake....accepting anything they spew out as "factual"...
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