It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by mileslong54
Fuel dumps from different sources at the same time, gas is supposed to be dumped quickly and away from the plane, all great comments.
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by mileslong54
I've read recently people have said that the chemtrail/contrail/cloud seeding will be amping up for this solar flare.
Nope, that is absurd.
There is absolutely nothing that could be achieved in reference to a "Solar flare" event by the addition of clouds composed of ice crystals in the atmosphere, at a few sparse locations willy-nilly in the atmosphere.
Since there are NO such thing as "chemtrails", that can be struck off the list of possibilities to describe the photos.
And they are evidently cirrus types, and they are obviously the result of contrails having been formed, that persisted and spread out, and evolved into the appearance seen. The mere presence of contrails can trigger the formation of more cirrus, in particular patterns, depending on wind conditions and atmospheric saturation levels.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
The airforce has unmarked planes now that take off from public airports and there is no information on them as is clear by the video.
The airforce has unmarked planes now.....
MISSION NO. 188 GELSENKIRCHEN, GERMANY 16 FEBRUARY, 1945
The synthetic benzol producing refineries at Gelsenkirchen were the targets. The Group supplied the 94th A Combat Wing lead and low boxes with Lt. Col. Francis as Air Commander. The 35 1st Bomb Group comprised the high box. Wing assembly was without difficulty. The Group was n proper position in Division column and flew the Division assembly line 1500 feet above briefed altitude in order to avoid clouds. Course from the end of the Division assembly line to the IF was flown as briefed, except it was necessary for the Group to go 1,000 feet above briefed altitude in order to avoid dense, persistent contrails. The IP was reached on course.
The Group made a run on the primary target, in squadron formation. It was necessary to bomb by G-FI equipment because dense, persistent contrails produced by aircraft of the preceding formation, and fog, made it impossible to perform a visual sighting operation. Cloud coverage was about four tenths, and visibility was extremely poor. The Group was about 1,000 feet above briefed altitude because of contrails and bombs were dropped from 27,000 feet. Bomb results of the lead squadron were fair; no photos were available from the low squadron. Flak was moderate but accurate. The craft piloted by Lt. Roland H. Brazier, deputy lead of the low box, was hit in No. 3 engine. The right wing folded and broke off, the plane rolled over, went into a flat spin and was on fire. Six of the crewmen did not survive. Because of weather conditions, the Group landed at another base.
MISSION NO. 214 HOPSTEN-ACHMER, GERMANY 21 MARCH, 1945
The airfield at Hopsten-Achmer was the primary target. The Group comprised the 94th A Combat Wing with Colonel Romig of Wing serving as Air Commander of the Wing, and of the Division. Combat Wing was formed without difficulty and the 457th was on time, on course and in proper position in Division formation. Division assembly line was flown approximately as briefed. Route to the IP was flown on time and on course. The target area was clear and it was decided to make a run on the primary target. Squadrons took interval and prepared for a visual run. A run was begun on the primary target (Hopsten Airfield), but dense, persistent contrails obscured the target and bombs were not released. Low and high squadrons followed the leader and did not release their bombs at this time.
The Group then proceeded to the secondary target, but contrails again obscured the target. The low squadron, however, was able to make a visual run on this target. The aiming point was changed to the intersection of the runways. Just before the run on the secondary target, the high squadron lead was hit by antiaircraft fire and it was necessary to turn the lead over to the deputy. The lead and high squadrons then executed a wide 360 degree turn, selected a new IP, and proceeded to make a second run on the primary target. High squadron deputy, Lt. Craig P. Greason, was hit near No. 4 engine by antiaircraft fire, caught fire and dropped out of formation. The high squadron leader then reassumed the lead, though the airplane was crippled and it was necessary to release bombs on those of the Group's lead squadron. The lead and low squadrons experienced some difficulty with AFCE. The lead and high squadrons let down to 2,000 feet below briefed altitude to avoid contrails on the second run. Bomb results were observed to be fair for the low squadron, and good for the lead and high squadrons. In addition to the plane lost, nine others sustained damage. Lt. Greason's crew were taken as prisoners of war.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by tommyjo
Thx but no thx to your pictures. I don't need them. I look up.
Late to the party but let me bring you up to speed. Obfuscation, militarily speaking, has been earlier covered. I, myself, covered it. For obfuscation to be a reason for chemtrails, there has to be an enemy i.e. someone you're trying to hide things from. Reasons for this have been variously given as the sun, the global population, ultra-violet, global warming etc. etc.