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Christians the End of days for us is Around the Corner

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posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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I believe that the first Rapture event is in December. Here is my reasoning:

The Roman Father and Son Calendars are the Julian and Gregorian Calendars..

We lost 11 days when Britain, the USA, Canada...etc.. adopted the Gregorian Calendar in 1752... The Gregorian Calendar is 430 years old but the USA has been using it for 260 years..

We also had our New Year'sDay switched from Spring to January 1st.. Recall it was stated in Exodus 12:2 that the SPRING month was to be HEAD of months (This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you

Interesting October 31st is the Julian date and 11/11/11 is the Gregorian date of the same day...

So in other words 11/11/11 on Gregorian, was really October 31st on the Julian Calendar Date. Veteran's Day 11/11/11 was 10/31 on Julian.....etc.

The key is on the Grave Markers: OS is the calendar we used prior to the Gregorian Calendar.

Now lets look at something else.

11 forward, 11 back, gives the hidden date of the attack..

The 11 years anniversary of the 9/11/01 Gregorian Calendar date is OS 8/31/12, the last day of the August month. The month of August was named after Augustus Caesar. He was Julius Caesars adopted son..

So what's 9/11 in Julius Caesar's Calendar is 9/22 on the Gregorian Calendar which is the Fall Equinox..

You must have both the Roman Father and Son Calendars to see what's really going on..

It's about the Calendar!!!.. Recall,the Gregorian Calendar date was moved from Spring to January 1st... We also lost 11 days...Now if you count back the 11 days from January 1st..this is what happens..

It will give you the "DOOM'S DAY Calendar Date" this year of 12/21/12

The Change of times: Daniel 7:25

Exodus 12:41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years—on that very same day—it came to pass that all the armies of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt..

2012 marks the 430 year of the Gregorian Calendar which was adopted by Rome in 1582....

So, the first rapture date should be Dec 21, 2010!

If this is the date then what follows before? I will explain further!




posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 12:14 PM
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If you were a true/real Christian, you would know that only God knows when the end will be. Not even Jesus knew.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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If it's the end of days for you, it's the end of days for us all. You're not special when we all live in this world.

Just saying.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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odinson, put your money where your mouth is.

Are you willing to sign over all of your belongings to me? I will not take possession until 12/2212.

If you agree please say so publicly. I will have my attorney contact you with the necessary paperwork. I hope you have good crap cause I'm 100% confident we'll all still be here 12/22 and beyond.

Let me know how strong your convictions are - You don't need any of that material crap anyway with God on your side.

Peace!



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by Gwampo
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If you were a true/real Christian, you would know that only God knows when the end will be. Not even Jesus knew.


And if you are well read, then you would know that the Rapture Doctrine was made up by John Nelson Darby.....

The Rapture doctrine, which was the invention of the Plymouth Brethren led by John Nelson Darby (1800-1882), has today been adopted by most Baptist, Pentecostals, Assemblies of God, and a variety of other fundamentalist sects. The idea that Jesus Christ will return for His true Church just before the beginning of the Great Tribulation in a secret gathering or "catching away" was an important part of Darby's teaching. The movement in which this teaching began originated in small groups in England and Ireland about 1828 and by 1831 was part of the official teaching of the Plymouth Brethren. By 1860 the "rapture" had made its way to the United States. In the late 1800's, America was fertile ground for a wide variety of religious extremists, most notably the Adventist movements. These movements, which produced new denominations, sects, and cults, almost always had as one of their chief tenets the belief that Christ was going to return to earth "very soon" and that they could tell you when. As the eschatological and apocalyptic teachings of the Plymouth Brethren entered this mix of religious fervor, some of their teachings became a permanent fixture within the newly formed sects. Among the many heresies of the "brethren" the Rapture was the most successful. It even went on to affect millions of people in denominations which had not yet been formed. Two examples of this are the Assemblies of God and the United Pentecostal Church which were not founded until early in the 20th century. At about this same time the Rapture made its way into the theology of the Southern Baptist Church, which had not previously known of the teaching. Today, prophecy pundits and "end-time" revivalists preach the Rapture as if it were established dogma from the time of Christ until the present. The truth is that the first historical reference to the Rapture doctrine comes from the Plymouth Brethren. Not only is the Rapture not found in the teachings of the Church, but even "end-time" heretics throughout the centuries never dreamed of proposing such a novel idea. For example, the 4th century Montanists, who preached both pre-millenialism and that they knew when Christ would return, never ventured so far as to create another 2nd coming of the Lord in a secret rapture.
Source


Paul speaks of our being "changed"
(See 1Cor:15:51)
That could mean changes in DNA, or a host of other things altogether.

He also speaks of our mortal bodies "putting on immortality". (See 1Cor.15:53)
This obviously means we are dead, removed from the human container and in Spirit, for are we not Immortal?



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 12:28 PM
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Hello

So if there is a Rapture in December, let's look at some dates mentioned in the Bible.

Revelations:

3And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. 5And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

The torment of 5 months would put the time of this occurrence in July.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by Gwampo
reply to post by odinson
 


If you were a true/real Christian, you would know that only God knows when the end will be. Not even Jesus knew.


True. But what about the 2 witnessess! They would have to know when they will be in Israel. Because when they die and lay in the streets for 3.5 days, then they will rise up! At this time I believe the pre-Trib will happen!



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by TinkerHaus
odinson, put your money where your mouth is.

Are you willing to sign over all of your belongings to me? I will not take possession until 12/2212.

If you agree please say so publicly. I will have my attorney contact you with the necessary paperwork. I hope you have good crap cause I'm 100% confident we'll all still be here 12/22 and beyond.

Let me know how strong your convictions are - You don't need any of that material crap anyway with God on your side.

Peace!


God may move the date some because He is always looking for more converts, but we will be seeing the last full year! I am already prepared to move from my home. I will explain all in due time!

God Bless



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by odinson

Originally posted by TinkerHaus
odinson, put your money where your mouth is.

Are you willing to sign over all of your belongings to me? I will not take possession until 12/2212.

If you agree please say so publicly. I will have my attorney contact you with the necessary paperwork. I hope you have good crap cause I'm 100% confident we'll all still be here 12/22 and beyond.

Let me know how strong your convictions are - You don't need any of that material crap anyway with God on your side.

Peace!


so basically no, God isn't looking for converts, follow his word or don't, eternity is on your hands not his. He won't change the date neither, if its time its time, so give up your belongings

God may move the date some because He is always looking for more converts, but we will be seeing the last full year! I am already prepared to move from my home. I will explain all in due time!

God Bless



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by autowrench

Originally posted by Gwampo
reply to post by odinson
 


If you were a true/real Christian, you would know that only God knows when the end will be. Not even Jesus knew.


And if you are well read, then you would know that the Rapture Doctrine was made up by John Nelson Darby.....

The Rapture doctrine, which was the invention of the Plymouth Brethren led by John Nelson Darby (1800-1882), has today been adopted by most Baptist, Pentecostals, Assemblies of God, and a variety of other fundamentalist sects. The idea that Jesus Christ will return for His true Church just before the beginning of the Great Tribulation in a secret gathering or "catching away" was an important part of Darby's teaching. The movement in which this teaching began originated in small groups in England and Ireland about 1828 and by 1831 was part of the official teaching of the Plymouth Brethren. By 1860 the "rapture" had made its way to the United States. In the late 1800's, America was fertile ground for a wide variety of religious extremists, most notably the Adventist movements. These movements, which produced new denominations, sects, and cults, almost always had as one of their chief tenets the belief that Christ was going to return to earth "very soon" and that they could tell you when. As the eschatological and apocalyptic teachings of the Plymouth Brethren entered this mix of religious fervor, some of their teachings became a permanent fixture within the newly formed sects. Among the many heresies of the "brethren" the Rapture was the most successful. It even went on to affect millions of people in denominations which had not yet been formed. Two examples of this are the Assemblies of God and the United Pentecostal Church which were not founded until early in the 20th century. At about this same time the Rapture made its way into the theology of the Southern Baptist Church, which had not previously known of the teaching. Today, prophecy pundits and "end-time" revivalists preach the Rapture as if it were established dogma from the time of Christ until the present. The truth is that the first historical reference to the Rapture doctrine comes from the Plymouth Brethren. Not only is the Rapture not found in the teachings of the Church, but even "end-time" heretics throughout the centuries never dreamed of proposing such a novel idea. For example, the 4th century Montanists, who preached both pre-millenialism and that they knew when Christ would return, never ventured so far as to create another 2nd coming of the Lord in a secret rapture.
Source


Paul speaks of our being "changed"
(See 1Cor:15:51)
That could mean changes in DNA, or a host of other things altogether.

He also speaks of our mortal bodies "putting on immortality". (See 1Cor.15:53)
This obviously means we are dead, removed from the human container and in Spirit, for are we not Immortal?


The idea of a "rapture" was not made up by Darby. The concept of "being caught up" appears in the bible on a number of occasions. The English word rapture is derived from the Latin word raptura/raptus. The Latin vulgate translates the Greek word harpazō this way. Again, the concept is in the bible. Darby did NOT make it up.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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Hello

What will start all the occurrences to happen before July? There has to be a tailtale sign that is supernatural! This is where I believe the darkness will kick in. The time God lets the devil out!

Remember 911 where the events transformed America in a day!

What do you guys think? Remember, the previous year set marks/records for most money spent in disasters and the types of disasters!



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by odinson
Hello

What will start all the occurrences to happen before July? There has to be a tailtale sign that is supernatural! This is where I believe the darkness will kick in. The time God lets the devil out!

Remember 911 where the events transformed America in a day!

What do you guys think? Remember, the previous year set marks/records for most money spent in disasters and the types of disasters!


If you are so certain of the date of rapture my friend, why are you not emphasising what one is supposed to be doing to be prepared?

Are you ready yourself?

Have you given all that you own to the poor and picked up your cross to follow Christ in his name?

Why are you giving warnings in your own name?

Don't you know that only the word of God speaks for God?

Are you the word of God?

Is your conscience clear enough on your actions to do them in the name of the father?

Who do you do these works for?

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by odinson
Hello

What will start all the occurrences to happen before July? There has to be a tailtale sign that is supernatural! This is where I believe the darkness will kick in. The time God lets the devil out!

Remember 911 where the events transformed America in a day!

What do you guys think? Remember, the previous year set marks/records for most money spent in disasters and the types of disasters!


If you are so certain of the date of rapture my friend, why are you not emphasising what one is supposed to be doing to be prepared?

Are you ready yourself?

Have you given all that you own to the poor and picked up your cross to follow Christ in his name?

Why are you giving warnings in your own name?

Don't you know that only the word of God speaks for God?

Are you the word of God?

Is your conscience clear enough on your actions to do them in the name of the father?

Who do you do these works for?

With Love,

Your Brother


Hello Brother

I have placed this thread out there for some to talk about. I saw the date which intrigued me since so much is going around. I believe that the date can change. The witnesses have to know generally about the time frame so that they will be in place. I believe that I am conversing with one who will be set to go to Israel soon.

Since my renewed faith, God has shown me things/visions and has directed me to be in place to start a city of God when TSHTF. I was shown what to expect when the darkness comes. The possessed will look like those in the movie The Devil Inside.

I believe from God given visions and other sources that we will have the darkness come in first. Then there will be natural disasters off the charts followed by a pandemic that will kill millions. There will be a rush to get vaccines but inside the vaccine will be the mark. So don't get any vaccines. Those who know Jesus will be protected.

At the time the darkness happens, the devil will be let loose and take over the AC who I believe is in China. After the stock market crashes there will be a need to have food water and etc. You will get those things and more once you agree to activate the mark. Then sometime later more persecution of Christians will occur when the scorpions, who sting only those that are marked, do their thing.

These are some of the things that will be played out soon.

God Bless



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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Congratulations on your renewed faith my friend. I appreciate your elaboration on your post, but it did not answer any of my questions.

As you know, in the end times some will be afflicted with serious delusions. False prophets will rise and attempt to throw the world into greater confusion.

All this is the work of God, so I do not question your source.

What I am questioning is if your actions are being done in the name of the father?

Are you so clear in your conscience that you will attach HIS name to your words?

That is what I want to know.

With Love,

Your Brother


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posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 02:07 PM
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And if you are well read, then you would know that the Rapture Doctrine was made up by John Nelson Darby.....


Wow, that has been thoroughly debunked here. John Darby popularized the rapture doctrine, he did NOT create it. Statements from early church fathers tell that not only did they believe/teach a rapture of the church, but a pre-tribulational one at that.

I'll give you one freebie:

Matthew Henry (1662 - 1714) Uses the word "rapture" in his commentary on 2 Thessalonians for chapter 4. He died a hundred years before John Darby allegedly "cooked up" the rapture doctrine.



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posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 02:11 PM
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Hello

This is a thread to get peoples attention. The darkness will come soon. You have to believe in Jesus and that He died for our sins. You have to ask Him into your life. Talk to Him on a personal level and He will forgive your sins!

There will be many lost because their faith is that they believe in God. That won't get you in! You have to have a belief in Jesus first then God and the Holy Spirit! I have seen where people will call on God when they have no faith and He wont be there.

Also, don't use the Lord's name in vain! Saying Jesus Christ, Goddamn and so on. In the name of the Lord there is power. You can use that power to repulse demons. Just saying His name! The pages of the Bible can be used to smite demons if they get to close.

Some will laugh about such things. But when their life is on the line they will think back about laughing at this subject. A year ago I would laugh if someone said that I would be posting this info and believe they way I do.

God has worked hard on my life and kept me from getting in trouble to saving my life! Hallelujah! There will be victory only if you believe in these coming months. Remember, that you must teach your children about Him because when they are more aware of right and wrong they will be held accountable also.

So to get prepared, make a plan for your family to meet. Rule out some car travel in cities if you commute. Demons will cause all kinds of car crashes, plane crashes, etc. So I have some hiking shoes and a duffle bag in the car ready to go. I also outfitted my wife.

Mark off your property with prayer and something physical. It will work as long as you ask Jesus to bless whatever you are using and to protect you when the time comes.

God Bless



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by odinson
Also, don't use the Lord's name in vain! Saying Jesus Christ, Goddamn and so on. In the name of the Lord there is power. You can use that power to repulse demons. Just saying His name!


If your works and your word were of the father or the Son, why then can you NOT do them in their name?

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by odinson
Also, don't use the Lord's name in vain! Saying Jesus Christ, Goddamn and so on. In the name of the Lord there is power. You can use that power to repulse demons. Just saying His name!


If your works and your word were of the father or the Son, why then can you NOT do them in their name?

With Love,

Your Brother


Taking His name in vain has nothing to do with vocabulary, it's about ambassadorship. Claiming to be His and not representing Him truthfully. Either by false doctrine or by our actions/behavior.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by odinson
Also, don't use the Lord's name in vain! Saying Jesus Christ, Goddamn and so on. In the name of the Lord there is power. You can use that power to repulse demons. Just saying His name!


If your works and your word were of the father or the Son, why then can you NOT do them in their name?

With Love,

Your Brother


Taking His name in vain has nothing to do with vocabulary, it's about ambassadorship. Claiming to be His and not representing Him truthfully. Either by false doctrine or by our actions/behavior.


Precisely my friend. Which is why I ask the OP what I ask the OP.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by odinson
Also, don't use the Lord's name in vain! Saying Jesus Christ, Goddamn and so on. In the name of the Lord there is power. You can use that power to repulse demons. Just saying His name!


If your works and your word were of the father or the Son, why then can you NOT do them in their name?

With Love,

Your Brother


Taking His name in vain has nothing to do with vocabulary, it's about ambassadorship. Claiming to be His and not representing Him truthfully. Either by false doctrine or by our actions/behavior.


Precisely my friend. Which is why I ask the OP what I ask the OP.

With Love,

Your Brother


I was clarifying/agreeing with you. I quoted you, but was sorta adding onto what you said.




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