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CNBC yet another Luciferian ILLUMINATI Network ! ! !

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posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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Please tell me how you are/were affected by the images you just posted?

Are you OK?



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 07:26 AM
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To put strange gods and symbols before Jesus is to offend Him. I take it you know very little of Him. Pike did not worship Jesus for like I said he made no secret of his association.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 07:44 AM
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"Prolonging all the external lines of the Hexagon, which also it
includes, we have six smaller triangles, whose bases cut each other
in the central point of the Tetractys, itself always the symbol of
the generative power of the Universe, the Sun, Brahma, Osiris,
Apollo, Bel, and the Deity Himself. Thus, too, we form twelve still
smaller triangles, three times three of which compose the Tetractys
itself." -A.Pike

Really you could quote him many times. The deity he refers to is certainly NOT JesusChrist.
I'm suprised this is new to you. Just by his so-called "commandments" he has
blasphemed omitting Sabbath, strange gods, murder, lying, etc.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 08:07 AM
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you are aware that some people don't believe Jesus Christ is the son of God and they still believe in God right? Some religions even call God by a different name. You should get out more.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 08:17 AM
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Jesus is God, there is no other. He was prophesized about 800 years before his birth. To deny Jesus is either ignorance or blasphemy.

All my opinion, of course.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by MentalData


All my opinion, of course.

Exactly, Others may feel just as strongly about their opinion. And nobody knows who is right until you die. So be nice, be a good person, try your best, and hope everyone gets to go to heaven.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by MentalData
To put strange gods and symbols before Jesus is to offend Him. I take it you know very little of Him. Pike did not worship Jesus for like I said he made no secret of his association.
You mean like the cross? I bet he finds that one pretty damned offensive, people waving it in his face all the time to remind him.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by MentalData
A.Pike

Really you could quote him many times.

To honor the Deity, to regard all men as our Brethren, as children, equally dear to Him, of the Supreme Creator of the Universe, and to make himself useful to society and himself by his labor, are its teachings to its Initiates in all the Degrees.
Morals & Dogma, Ch. XX


We do not undervalue the importance of any Truth. We utter no word that can be deemed irreverent by any one of any faith. We do not tell the Moslem that it is only important for him to believe that there is but one God, and wholly unessential whether Mahomet was His prophet. We do not tell the Hebrew that the Messiah whom he expects was born in Bethlehem nearly two thousand years ago; and that he is a heretic because he will not so believe. And as little do we tell the sincere Christian that Jesus of Nazareth was but a man like us, or His history but the unreal revival of an older legend. To do either is beyond our jurisdiction. Masonry, of no one age, belongs to all time; of no one religion, it finds its great truths in all.

To every Mason, there is a GOD; ONE, Supreme, Infinite in Goodness, Wisdom, Foresight, Justice, and Benevolence; Creator, Disposer, and Preserver of all things. How, or by what intermediates He creates and acts, and in what way He unfolds and manifests Himself, Masonry leaves to creeds and Religions to inquire.

To every Mason, the soul of man is immortal. Whether it emanates from and will return to God, and what its continued mode of existence hereafter, each judges for himself. Masonry was not made to settle that.

To every Mason, WISDOM or INTELLIGENCE, FORCE or STRENGTH, and HARMONY, or FITNESS and BEAUTY, are the Trinity of the attributes of God. With the subtleties of Philosophy concerning them Masonry does not meddle, nor decide as to the reality of the supposed Existences which are their Personifications: nor whether the Christian Trinity be such a personification, or a Reality of the gravest import and significance.

To every Mason, the Infinite Justice and Benevolence of God give ample assurance that Evil will ultimately be dethroned, and the Good, the True, and the Beautiful reign triumphant and eternal. It teaches, as it feels and knows, that Evil, and Pain, and Sorrow exist as part of a wise and beneficent plan, all the parts of which work together under God's eye to a result which shall be perfection. Whether the existence of evil is rightly explained in this creed or in that, by Typhon the Great Serpent, by Ahriman and his Armies of Wicked Spirits, by the Giants and Titans that war against Heaven, by the two co-existent Principles of Good and Evil, by Satan's temptation and the fall of Man, by Lok and the Serpent Fenris, it is beyond the domain of Masonry to decide, nor does it need to inquire. Nor is it within its Province to determine how the ultimate triumph of Light and Truth and Good, over Darkness and Error and Evil, is to be achieved; nor whether the Redeemer, looked and longed for by all nations, hath appeared in Judea, or is yet to come.

It reverences all the great reformers. It sees in Moses, the Lawgiver of the Jews, in Confucius and Zoroaster, in Jesus of Nazareth, and in the Arabian Iconoclast, Great Teachers of Morality, and Eminent Reformers, if no more: and allows every brother of the Order to assign to each such higher and even Divine Character as his Creed and Truth require.

Thus Masonry disbelieves no truth, and teaches unbelief in no creed, except so far as such creed may lower its lofty estimate of the Deity, degrade Him to the level of the passions of humanity, deny the high destiny of man, impugn the goodness and benevolence of the Supreme God, strike at those great columns of Masonry, Faith, Hope, and Charity, or inculcate immorality, and disregard of the active duties of the Order.

Masonry is a worship; but one in which all civilized men can unite; for it does not undertake to explain or dogmatically to settle those great mysteries, that are above the feeble comprehension of our human intellect. It trusts in God, and HOPES; it BELIEVES, like a child, and is humble. It draws no sword to compel others to adopt its belief, or to be happy with its hopes. And it WAITS with patience to understand the mysteries of Nature and Nature's God hereafter.
Morals & Dogma, Ch. XXVI


Symbolical instruction is recommended by the constant and uniform usage of antiquity; and it has retained its influence throughout all ages, as a system of mysterious communication. The Deity, in his revelations to man, adopted the use of material images for the purpose of enforcing sublime truths; and Christ taught by symbols and parables.
Morals & Dogma, Ch. XXIV



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by icepack
could you give some examples, what to beware of ? i think its television or part of the channels, ads, fancy clothes ? big cars are devilish, i guess.



Hi Icepack,


While we all need to become NOT Paranoid but genuinely concerned with the actual presence of Luciferian worshipers in our Power Elite, this means that we must exercise discernment regarding what is done by them and for what reasons. They are indeed present in various hermetic orders and secret societies, of which Freemasonry is only the most known and the widest in its global reach. However, ABOVE Freemasonry - whatever the many masons who populate this forum section might claim - there are the Illuminati and their Royal bloodline brethren who pull their strings WITH THEIR TACIT CONSENT but without their conscious knowledge.


TV channels are not in themselves evil, it can only be those who use these channels for evil purposes who are. All it would take is wrestling TV networks, and even Freemasonry away from the Luciferians to remove any Evil power from directly and indirectly affecting them and those within their reach. So we shouldn't be calling things evil, only the inhumane intentions which motivate evil actions or which make evil systems which impact the innocent with malevolent intent.


There are a GREAT MAJORITY of Freemasons who are not only entirely innocent of evil intent, but who would be horrified to learn that at the top of their brotherhood there is a predatory presence using them against their will. These good people should take care to investigate the issue before being certain that it is what they have been led to believe, for it is NOT as pure as the driven snow - far from it.


I posted this thread not because I was surprised to find that the Illuminati had infiltrated major media groups, this is something which has been well known to researchers for many decades. What irked me is that they are continuing to throw it in our faces with blatant symbols such as the one used by CNBC's Stock Watch TV show. To me it is as insulting as if they used a Swastika. The nerve of them to flaunt their oppressive allegiances which go against the welfare of all of humanity, promoting their Eugenics agenda, the dumbing down of the masses using propaganda in media and the culling of populations directly through wars and indirectly through poisoned food and tainted pharmaceuticals. These people belong in jail and not in the seat of government, at the helm of major corporations or running our news and media sources.


Getsmart



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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Emanation from the Deity of all spiritual beings, progressive degeneration of these beings from emanation to emanation, redemption and return of all to the purity of the Creator; and, after the re-establishment of the primitive harmony of all, a fortunate and truly divine condition of all, in the bosom of God; such were the fundamental teachings of Gnosticism. The genius of the Orient, with its contemplations, irradiations, and intuitions, dictated its doctrines. Its language corresponded to its origin. Full of imagery, it had all the magnificence, the inconsistencies, and the mobility of the figurative style.

Behold, it said, the light, which emanates from an immense centre of Light, that spreads everywhere its benevolent rays; so do the spirits of Light emanate from the Divine Light. Behold, all the springs which nourish, embellish, fertilize, and purify the Earth: they emanate from one and the same ocean; so from the bosom of the Divinity emanate so many streams, which form and fill the universe of intelligences. Behold numbers, which all emanate from one primitive number, all resemble it, all are composed of its essence, and still vary infinitely; and utterances, decomposable into so many syllables and elements, all contained in the primitive Word, and still infinitely various; so the world of Intelligences emanated from a Primary Intelligence, and they all resemble it, and yet display an infinite variety of existences.

It revived and combined the old doctrines of the Orient and the Occident; and it found in many passages of the Gospels and the Pastoral letters, a warrant for doing so. Christ himself spoke in parables and allegories, John borrowed the enigmatical language of the Platonists, and Paul often indulged in incomprehensible rhapsodies, the meaning of which could have been clear to the Initiates alone.
Morals & Dogma, Ch. XVII


The good Mason does the good thing which comes in his way, and because it comes in his way; from a love of duty, and not merely because a law, enacted by man or God, commands his will to do it. He is true to his mind, his conscience, heart, and soul, and feels small temptation to do to others what he would not wish to receive from them. He will deny himself for the sake of his brother near at hand. His desire attracts in the line of his duty, both being in conjunction. Not in vain does the poor or the op-pressed look up to him. You find such men in all Christian sects, Protestant and Catholic, in all the great religious parties of the civilized world, among Buddhists, Mahometans, and Jews. They are kind fathers, generous citizens, unimpeachable in their business, beautiful in their daily lives. You see their Masonry in their work and in their play. It appears in all the forms of their activity, individual, domestic, social, ecclesiastical, or political. True Masonry within must be morality without. It must become eminent morality, which is philanthropy. The true Mason loves not only his kindred and his country, but all mankind; not only the good, but also the evil, among his brethren. He has more goodness than the channels of his daily life will hold. It runs over the banks, to water and to feed a thousand thirsty plants. Not content with the duty that lies along his track, he goes out to seek it; not only willing, he has a salient longing to do good, to spread his truth, his justice, his generosity, his Masonry over all the world. His daily life is a profession of his Masonry, published in perpetual good-will to men. He can not be a persecutor.
Morals & Dogma, Ch. X



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 09:44 AM
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You failed to quote him entirely in the text, cherry picking your data much like the CIA did to invoke waging the war against Iraq. Here is what Pike said which we have issue with, and you will surely find funny ways to shake this off and explain why you failed to mention it in your own self-serving quotes?



LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls ? Doubt it not!

Pike's Morals & Dogma - Full Text


Click on the above link to Pike's Morals and Dogma in the full text and run a search for the word LUCIFER to see exactly what he says about the highest Masonic Master. One usurping his name as their ATS handle ought to know better.


GS



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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It is you who fails to quote the full context. Look at the sentence before what you quoted...

The Apocalypse is, to those who receive the nineteenth Degree, the Apotheosis of that Sublime Faith which aspires to God alone, and despises all the pomps and works of Lucifer.


Furthermore,


Of that Equilibrium between Good and Evil, and Light and Darkness in the world, which assures us that all is the work of the Infinite Wisdom and of an Infinite Love; and that there is no rebellious demon of Evil, or Principle of Darkness co-existent and in eternal controversy with God, or the Principle of Light and of Good: by attaining to the knowledge of which equilibrium we can, through Faith, see that the existence of Evil, Sin, Suffering, and Sorrow in the world, is consistent with the Infinite Goodness as well as with the Infinite Wisdom of the Almighty.

Sympathy and Antipathy, Attraction and Repulsion, each a Force of nature, are contraries, in the souls of men and in the Universe of spheres and worlds; and from the action and opposition of each against the other, result Harmony, and that movement which is the Life of the Universe and the Soul alike. They are not antagonists of each other. The force that repels a Planet from the Sun is no more an evil force, than that which attracts the Planet toward the central Luminary; for each is created and exerted by the Deity, and the result is the harmonious movement of the obedient Planets in their elliptic orbits, and the mathematical accuracy and unvarying regularity of their movements.
Morals & Dogma, Ch. XXXII.

There is no Satan. The evil in the world is part of God's plan, and without it, we could not appreciate His goodness.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by de1111codEiT

It’s been patently obvious to me for some time now that there’s an agenda to control the world by systematically manipulating minds and moulding the opinions of the masses, as not a single bit of information passes through the minions of Earths self proclaimed overlords without some sort of spin or agenda. It certainly comes as no surprise that CNBC are parading around Illuminati symbolism.


Hi de111codEiT,


If is a great comfort to find a genuine researcher in Secret Societies in the Secret Society section of ATS. Up until now most of my experience in this section of the ATS forum has been getting bashed, insulted by members of Secret Societies attacking and trying to discredit anyone who doesn't find it just wonderful that their Secret Society subverts democracies and plays dirty pool behind the scenes. They find privilege and ego gratification in their membership, so they feel compelled to gloat at those who are kept in the dark: they know the secrets and we're the clueless fools, that at least part of what appeals to them in the secrecy. The rest of the appeal comes from the fact that knowledge and information grant a power advantage over others who are less informed. And they want to have an edge over the rest of us, something which goes directly against the very notion of equal opportunity and a fair and just society. This is why Secret Societies SUBVERT SOCIETY.



Originally posted by de1111codEiT

CNBC under General Electric is 1 of the 6 media companies that exist, ALL six of these companies get their news from Reuters and the Associated Press. Reuters owns AP and the Rothschilds own Reuters.


There has been a systematic concentration of Media power under the control of a few Illuminati families. Secret Societies also use their media connections directly with journalists and editors who are Freemasons or members of other affiliated brotherhoods to apply pressure upon them to either kill stories or create diversions, as well as to endorse complacent political candidates and reformat the populations' public opinion by focusing on certain issues while leaving others dormant. The Rothschilds as well as the other Illuminati families are very active in this process of controlling humanity by placing a stranglehold on our information sources. This is also why they seek to snuff out the Internet in its current form, it is the only means of hearing a dissonant voice. For example, how often have you read information such as this in a newspaper?



Originally posted by de1111codEiT

The Rothchilds are one of the prominent controlling bloodlines and banking families and have their half blood claws in many distasteful pies.


Yes, the Rothschild family has been central as the key coordinating family which has mixed its blood with the purest royal bloodlines by cross-breeding with the pseudo-British German Saxe Coburg Gotha bloodline currently usurping the throne of Great Britain.



Originally posted by de1111codEiT

The Israeli Supreme Court in Jerusalem was founded and constructed by the Rothschilds.



Pyramid with all seeing Luciferian (Satanic/Draconian) Eye from the Israeli Supreme Court



Thanks for pointing out their unabashed allegiance to a Luciferian / Draconian worship. They have reportedly tunneled from this Supreme Court building under the Temple Mount in order to celebrate in that mystical location certain Satanic ceremonies, in Masonic garb. Blue Lodge Freemasons are totally clueless about their summoning Demons at the higher levels, and in ceremonies conducted in their own temples by splinter groups of their fellow masons they regularly frequent in the more ordinary rituals.



Originally posted by de1111codEiT

Here’s a very bold statement by the Israel minion’s minions also incorporating the Pyramid and all seeing eye.



Bloodlines and High Priests have been exploiting and oppressing humanity since the beginning of our known history. This isn't necessarily the case for all of human history, only our very own history preceding Sumerian times has been systematically suppressed by Secret Societies, they burned the Alexandria library with all of its prior records and today withhold what knowledge they may have from our knowledge.


CONTINUED...



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 10:15 AM
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...CONTINUED



Originally posted by de1111codEiT

And for good measure… here’s the Illuminati/Masonic connection on the American 1 dollar bill.



We saw in your last picture from the prior post the very revealing combination on that monument of the Masonic Compass and Square along with the ILLUMINATI All-Seeing-Eye of Horus. This is testimonial that Freemasonry has been deeply infiltrated and perverted by the Illuminati and that Freemasons, whether they realize it or not, are simply TOOLS for the Illuminati. If they don't understand this after doing some research, then this would confirm that they are indeed tools, in more way than one.



Originally posted by de1111codEiT

The Rothschilds have also had significant control over the scientific community and roles within MI5/British intelligence.

This is the British intelligence agency’s logo incorporating the Pyramid and all seeing eye.



This is the British intelligence GCHQ's head office, an all seeing eye!



We must not neglect to consider that the Rothschild are currently the main coordinators of the NON ROYAL Illuminati bloodlines, who happen to have the SAME BLOOD as the Royal families, being mostly inbred illegitimate issue (technically called bastards) of these same Royal families.


THE ILLUMINATI ARE STEALTH ROYALTY.


Secret Societies existed well before organized secret services at the disposal of nation states were in place. Secret Societies have historically served as coordinators, agent providers and loyalty insurers for spying and intelligence gathering. So it comes as no surprise that the ILLUMINATI would be central to our modern spy agencies. For example in the USA you cannot get a top job in the Intelligence Community if you are not already a ranking Freemason or a member of an affiliated order. This is partly why member of Skull & Bones George Herbert Walker Bush not only was once director of the CIA, but still today unofficially directs operations at the CIA which he renamed "THE GEORGE BUSH CENTER FOR INTELLIGENCE". That much of what the CIA does is EVIL is therefore not surprising, it doesn't work for the USA but for LUCIFER !


Thanks for your useful input in this thread and for giving some positive balance where so many SECRET SOCIETY MEMBERS have occupied this section to promote their SECT.


GS



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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And Masonry doesn't put gods or symbols before Jesus. Pike said he was a follower of Christ, who are you to define another man's relationship with God? You presume to know God's judgement of every man? You know His thoughts? How blasphemous and arrogant.

Pike is the whipping boy of the anti-Masonic movement where his quotes and words are misquoted, misspoken, and mistaken. So many cut-and-paste his words without knowing or truly understanding his meaning and intent. Many who point out his "Satanic" ties are fanatical and are thus blind to enlightenment.

reply to post by MentalData
 

Morals & Dogma is not a religious text, it is a book comparing the various cultures and beliefs to the lessons taught in Masonry. Nowhere does he say that Masonry should replace religion, in fact he speaks against that. He gives no commandments.

Only to the overly zealous, fanatical, and radical is Pike blasphemous

reply to post by MentalData
 

Only if you're Christian. Not everyone is.

reply to post by Getsmart
 

Why is it you anti-Masons are so concerned with interfering with the personal lives of others?

We've proven beyond reason that there is no puppeteer above Masonry. Too decentralized, too many variables, too Democratic in nature (legislative and electoral), and constantly changing duly, elected leadership makes your theory inane. Some of the Brothers may disagree (or may wholeheartedly agree) with this, but I'd truly say the power lies at the local/constituent level; that is where action occurs and where most decisions are made.


To me it is as insulting as if they used a Swastika.

Well, the Buddhists use the swastika as a symbol. Is there use of this symbol offensive to you?

reply to post by Getsmart
 

No one has denied that Pike said the quote you posted.

You realize when he spoke of Lucifer he was speaking of light, of knowledge. And if you really, truly understood the Bible you'd know that Lucifer (actually named Helal) was a disgraced Babylonian King.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Wow, you're comforted by this "research"? The standards of research and analysis has really dropped then.

I didn't realize that dispensing truth was bashing. We see lies, we attempt to correct them, we are called every name under the book and when we say you are mistaken or a liar or a drone, we're the basher? Take a look in the mirror before you start judging.

You say that "secret societies" naturally subvert this nation, but I put forth that this nation was founded upon privacy and secrecy, and the sanctity of it.

Can you name any editors or journalists who are Freemasons? If you are able to provide any names, can you actually back it up with dates, Lodge name, and jurisdiction?


how often have you read information such as this in a newspaper?

I'm sure you can find a tabloid rag out there that has stuff like this in it.


Blue Lodge Freemasons are totally clueless about their summoning Demons at the higher levels

If it is so secret and compartmentalized information, how do you know about it? Doesn't seem very "secret" to me if it is plastered all over the web.

reply to post by Getsmart
 

I've shown on this forum, and several others, the folly of the belief in that the Masons created the Great Seal of the USA. History and facts prove otherwise.

Please name what officials of the Intelligence Community are Freemasons and what Lodge they belong to. I won't hold my breath though.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by KSigMason

No one has denied that Pike said the quote you posted.

You realize when he spoke of Lucifer he was speaking of light, of knowledge.



Thanks for clarifying this for all of us here at ATS.


So the LUCIFER that Pike likes is the one you are also FOND OF.



Now it is crystal clear. You are not Luciferian, but Lucifer ROCKS ! LOL



GS



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 10:43 AM
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How do those images affect you? Do they make you want to go out and buy ice cream? Do they make you feel compelled to buy a copy of "Catcher in the Rye"? I just cannot understand the fear of art.

And you did a FANTASTIC job of ignoring Brother Pike after he set your quote straight.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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Are you familiar with personification? That is what Pike was doing, personifying enlightenment, knowledge. I am fond of knowledge and enlightenment. All rational men should be.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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To conspire in secret is to deny light to shine on your actions. The fact you need other people to "enlighten" you in ritualistic fashion and take oaths to allow you to move up degrees is small-minded at best but to each his own. I find it only necessary to point out Jesus as the only God of the living. Now that you have that knowledge you can never deny not knowing. I need no cross to represent my faith nor any other symbol. No act of His was committed in secrecy, for good reason. Secrecy is cowardly, our whole government is now run with this mindset. The result is for all to see on a worldly stage.

I wish you well on your quest for truth. Any stance I would think could be argued. Though please deny it not Pike never mentions Jesus as God so there is only one other entity to substitute his use of the word deity. Maybe you guys haven't reached that degree yet. Peace



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