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Santorum : pregnant rape victims should realize that they have a gift and accept it

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posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 08:16 AM
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Santorum To Rape Victims: ‘Make The Best Out Of A Bad Situation’

As horrible as the way that that son or daughter and son was created, it still is her child. And whether she has that child or doesn’t, it will always be her child. And she will always know that. And so to embrace her and to love her and to support her and get her through this very difficult time, I’ve always, you know, I believe and I think the right approach is to accept this horribly created — in the sense of rape — but nevertheless a gift in a very broken way, the gift of human life, and accept what God has given to you.



Santorum 2012, because ... well because he will never be president because of the Mayan apocalypse!




posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 08:22 AM
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He's right that the child is innocent and a part of the mother as well. Pushing a woman to kill the unborn child will heap another nightmare on her on top of the nightmare of rape. Not only will the rape haunt her, but int he future the abortion of her child could haunt her as well. It could make a bad situation much worse. The truth of that is something that pro-choicers don't like to acknowledge and I'm sure I'll get flamed for saying it. The country is full of people who would gladly adopt the baby.

That being said ... he has a right to his opinion but he won't be POTUS so no one has to worry about it.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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wrong.

The country is full of people who want to adopt a healthy white baby, the system is full of those with disabilities and minorities.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 08:29 AM
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It should be the mothers choice what to do with the baby. If you can't understand this then you are no different than anyone who wants government controlling your actions and behaviors...

Being a tyrant usually ends in death now a days



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 08:36 AM
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If I were to walk outside and stab someone right now, they should have no right to complain. That knife is a gift! Who are they to take the knife out and reject my gift?



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 08:37 AM
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Rape is traumatic enough without making these women, many of them kids, go through the trauma of having to carry around a reminder of that awful incident for nine months. I can't ask a living, breathing, conscious human being to go through that kind of mental torture for something that doesn't breathe, doesn't have a proper nervous system to feel, and doesn't even have the consciousness of my cat.

As for "living with the horror of murder" from getting an abortion...seriously? I've known girls who got abortions after being raped, and the only reason it was hard for them to deal with was because they kept having people who knew about it calling them murderers and looking at them like they were Satan. In short, it wasn't the act itself that caused them pain, it was everybody else's reactions to their decision.

And it's bad enough when people like him go on about having to keep the kid and making the best of a bad situation. But for him to say that they have to recognize they've been given a gift is just unimaginably disgusting.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 08:58 AM
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I'm pro-choice. Why? Because I was witness to a girl mutilating herself after getting pregnant by a rapist. She couldn't handle it. To have a creature growing inside her spawned by hate and suffering was to much, contimplating suicide, she decided to get an abortion before the unthinkable. That's one of the reasons I'm pro-choice. Now she has a beautiful little girl and live a happy, normal life.

I say if they're not for abortions then fine, but don't they dare judge a person who decided to get an abortion because their little minds can't figure out that in certain circumstances it's totally acceptable.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 09:03 AM
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im pretty confident if santorum is elected his plan is to kill everyone but babies. if a women is raped and impregnated she should have every right to abort. to imagine what kind of emotional and psychological damage you would face everyday carrying something you don't want reminding you ever day of the horror you felt, all because president santorum says so. how would that even be fair to the child how could a mother look at a baby and see their assailants face staring back at them and find unconditional love for them? all the happiness that supposed to come from having a child is gone, there would be no joy. on top of that to see old friends or co worker telling them they happy for them and asking when their due, i think would ultimately cause these women to just kill themselves. and what do you tell that child when they ask who their daddy is? oh i don't know hunny some guy in prison he just randomly raped me i didn't even want you but our socialist dictator says i must produce more bodies for his war on the world. at least that's what i think.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 09:12 AM
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...just...

proof positive that certain sects of xtianity need to be persecuted into extinction:shk:
santorum and his religious brethren reveal how sick,twisted and morally bankrupt they truly are.

to tell a rape victim that being raped was a gift from god
ergo rape is okay if pregnancy is the result

i mean WTF!!???!!

then again i've always said that pro lifers are potential, if not actual rapists, because a women's consent is required if you [the man] want to have a baby anything else is rape, period.

S &F
amazed this hasn't gotten anymore attention

this sicko/psycho santorum needs to be castrated
hopefully revelations of rape in his past will soon be surfacing, leading to extended jailtime

and him receiving "many gifts from god" including aids



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 09:16 AM
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Oh please
, there is a big difference. Don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that.....



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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Seriously?!?! What has become of us. How is it that a man spouting such foolishness has been taken seriously enough to run for President? How has he not been run out of office? This entire argument is disgusting. No man has any right to have a say in what happens with a woman's body. It is HER body she should be able to do with it what she chooses. This whole stupid God argument needs to be finished. Even if there is a God he/she/it doesn't give one single rats behind what happens to anyone. Obviously. Just look around. Take off the God colored glasses and have a look around.
Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Barak Obama, all need to be dumped into obscurity and forgotten along with all of there colleagues.
STOP USING GOD TO CONTROL PEOPLE!!!!!!!!



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 09:28 AM
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I have a friend who got pregnant 20 years ago due to rape. Instead of aborting her baby, she decided to adopt her baby because she couldn’t provide for her. Nowadays, she sees her daughter! And they have an awesome relationship together! I remember the first time my friend saw her daughter! The first thing her daughter said was “Thank you Mom for letting me live!” I can completely understand why she would want to abort considering the circumstances, but she thought it better to give the baby a chance. (I have the video of the Mother and Daughter meeting for the first time. I will upload when I find it).
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posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 09:34 AM
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I happen to agree with Santorum that rape is not necessarily a reason for abortion. The potential child is not guilty. It's a new life.

HOWEVER!

I HIGHLY disagree with him that everyone should have that same opinion or that law should dictate that particular piece of his morality.

I choose freedom over control.
edit on 1/24/2012 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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I am a white person who has adopted and like many, did not care what race the child was. You are right, the system is full of non-white and non-healthy children, but there are many, many parents who want and do adopt non-white, non-healthy children. Even children who are products of rape - date rape, violent rape, and even violent incestuous rape.

One of my children is the product of a horrific rape. Due to the circumstances, the birthmother was counseled to place him for adoption, and she did. (Mom was in her early thirties and had four existing children.) But the day of his birth and subsequent placement, the hospital records indicate that she was inconsolable. She believed giving up the child was the right thing to do, but found it incredibly hard and incredibly painful. She had decided she did not want an "open" adoption, but after a few months, we mailed pictures of the child to the adoption agency, which forwarded them to her. She was very glad to have them. She cried when she saw them. He is still a part of her that she thinks about and loves. She does love him, in spite of the horrible circumstances of his conception.

This child is now a teenager, and he is the light of our lives. We have other children, and they are all unique and wonderful, but this kid is particularly special - bright, beautiful, has a wonderful sense of humor, and is particularly attentive to his mom - he is the one that will offer his arm when we walk across an icy parking lot to make sure I don't slip. He is very tender with babies and small children, and senses what they need. We have many children, and love them all, but this little guy lights up the room and has a very special heart. I can't imagine life without him and am so very grateful for him.

I consider him an incredible gift and when I think of what his mother went through, and the choice she made not to have him killed in her womb...she must have been pretty special herself.

After having several (biological) children, I was informed that I might not survive another pregnancy. I had to make the decision as to what would I do if a pregnancy occurred. It was a no brainer. I would have taken the chance. I could never ever choose to snuff out a life inside me, planned or not, risky or not. Many women have chosen to postpone life-saving treatments, including chemo, in order to give birth to their child, even when they've known it would cost them their own life. Many women have chosen to carry a child to term even when they would not have chosen to conceive, and many have carried and given birth to children who resulted from horrific circumstances.

I'm sure other people would make different decisions, and that is certainly their right. But I thought you should know that at least some women agree with Santorum - a child IS a gift, no matter how it was conceived.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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Morality is a highly personal thing. I will never agree that anyone should be able to tell me what is moral or immoral. That said, I agree that controls need to be placed to stop extremes like murder, rape, molestation, etc. but what I do with my own body and mind is mine to choose. The US Government has no business dictating that to me. Besides, what the Hell happened to separation of church and state? Have we just abandoned that now?



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 10:12 AM
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Oh please, yourself. I'm aware of the differences, but my metaphor serves to point out the similarities.

Someone violently and forcefully inserts something into your body, potentially causing serious physical harm in the process. You should be able to choose to remove that which is unwanted from your body without being demonized for it.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 10:21 AM
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What ever happened to the "morning after" pill?
Or is that considered abortion down there also?

At least it's taken quick enough that the "gift" doesn't have a chance to stick to where it sticks to, to turn into a fetus/baby.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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SO, basically, just to be clear here...
what you're sayin' is....

Santorum has no problem,
-NO, scratch that-
IS CHOMPING AT THE BITS to bomb the hell out of the middle east
and kill
MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE,
but he just WILL NOT STAND for aborting a single life,
even if it's the unholy demon spawn of an incestuous sociopathic pedophile monster.


meh, that makes sense.



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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Hard to say on this one, yea rape is bad , yadda yadda, but killing a baby before it has a chance is a little far out there as well. Everyone has reasons and circumstances i'm sure so i'm neutral on this one



posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Pushing a woman to kill the unborn child will heap another nightmare on her on top of the nightmare of rape.

i don't recall women ever being "pushed" to have an abortion... or maybe i missed something...



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