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Originally posted by theBigToe
Oh look now somebody went crying to a Mod about how "offensive" my post was. Its amazing on this site you can be a nutter bigot and your posts remain intact yet you cry someone offended your religious beliefs and the posts instantly removed. This site should be hosted in China. What a crock. Totally garbage you cant even write anything without it being censored. Dont remove peoples posts. Free speech. Who cares how offensive or how much trolling they do. Leave PEOPLES POSTS ALONE.
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
In a thread about morals, you are a shining example of what is wrong. Morality is not relative. Good is good and evil is evil. There is a right and a wrong and murdering children is wrong. The fact that you cannot, or will not see this is indicative of the moral decay of our society.
Originally posted by L00kingGlass
Sure people are technically allowed to do some immoral things, however they're all disgusting and make me ill.
Originally posted by L00kingGlass
The only people that see morals as useless obstacles which get in the way of personal pleasures are Pagans.
Originally posted by batgirl
Is there a moral deficit in western culture today? I would say yes. You only need look at what so many people download there brains with today. Look at all the multi-million dollar big budget Hollywood movies that promote and glamorize violence solely for the sake of violence.
Originally posted by nightbringr
Originally posted by L00kingGlass
Sure people are technically allowed to do some immoral things, however they're all disgusting and make me ill.
Care to name a few of those legal, immoral things that disgust you? Perhaps we can discuss them further.
Originally posted by L00kingGlass
The only people that see morals as useless obstacles which get in the way of personal pleasures are Pagans.
Very narrow minded of you. Many here would say the same of religious zealots trying to push their ideas of morals down our throats.
Originally posted by theBigToe
reply to post by batgirl
This is basically ethics. Are you saying people dont have the right to profit off of a video game like call of duty or that Brian Depalma should have never made Scarface? What about Steven Spielberg's Schindler's List?
Originally posted by something wicked
Hmmmm, while I agree with your sentiment, I'm not sure I can bring myself to agree with your last point. Paganism is a religion (essentially, Paganism originally meant that the Pagans followed a different faith than your own), and it's not just the self righteous people within any religion who shriek when someone does something that while not illegal, goes against their personal morality.
Originally posted by batgirl
Promoting messages and images of nonsensical violence, solely for the sake of promoting violence in order to obtain profit margins is immoral.
Originally posted by batgirl
Young people are particularly susceptible to it and that is why these messages are often aimed at young people. Call it whatever you want. It is wrong.
Originally posted by Dystopiaphiliac
Originally posted by batgirl
Is there a moral deficit in western culture today? I would say yes. You only need look at what so many people download there brains with today. Look at all the multi-million dollar big budget Hollywood movies that promote and glamorize violence solely for the sake of violence.
What somebody experiences visually and what they retain mentally are not the same thing. There have been links discovered between seeing violence and unleashing anger and negativity. However, the violence can be as simplistic as whack-a-mole.
I've been playing violent video games since I was a young child. My earliest PC games were quake, grand theft auto, doom and duke nukem. Violence, cursing and nudity included before age 10. I'm a pacifist now. I would rather be killed than kill another. I would also be willing to help anybody in need, regardless of their past, if I was to be aiding them with something positive I would help. I would give my life to save anybody.
My beliefs are guided by knowledge of the universe and the strong relationships between all matter. No amount of violence or death will change this thought process. I'm prepared for death, torture, bland immortality or even a tear in the fabric of reality itself.
I don't like to think about morals, or rights and wrongs. I like to think about the possibilities that could be achieved by people and how ludicrous their beliefs must be to actively choose to live in the societies of today (or any previous age).
Originally posted by theBigToe
reply to post by batgirl
I understand what youre saying, shows like Jersey Shore are stupid and ridiculous and only dumb people down, but whats the alternative? The alternative is censorship.