Iran's Military: Much Better Than the Media Portrays

Not really. It seems like any time something comes up, the UN runs to the US whining for use of our forces to enforce some no fly zone or something along those lines. It isn't the US military asking for this crappy duty, that's for sure.

They may not ask for it, but they certainly don't decline any offer either.

Ever think that maybe the U.S. has "Black Market" intelliegence operatives around the world paid to stir up sh*t so situations can reach a boiling point to where the U.N feels it would be in the worlds best interest that the U.S. come in and "take care of things?"

Remember that the U.S. not only has the most advanced physical military in the world, they also have some of the brightest minds working for them on the psychological front as well.

I just hope it does not push anyone towards conflict.

A 50 cent bullet can take out the driver of a vehicle rendering it inoperable. It does not matter how advanced the technology is, asymmetric always looks to exploit the weakest points of the system. They are in effect military warfare specialists and use the enemy's strength against them. The bigger they are the harder they fall.

But does the US have the capability to get someone in to fire that bullet?

Maybe a resolution can be worked out seeing Iran would loose so much revenue.

They fought Iraq to a draw.

I don't think that they would last more than 60 days against the US.

Just my opinion.

Originally posted by daaskapital

Originally posted by TheGreatest
Iran struggled with Iraq.

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So did America

Prove it.

reply to post by TheGreatest


Actually, it was Iraq that struggled with Iran. Iraq launched a surprise attack into Iran starting the Iran/Iraq war.

When it ended, with half a million men dead, Iran was holding Iraqi territory.

Not a fan of the Iranian regime but if we are going to do the history we may as well get it right.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
A 50 cent bullet can take out the driver of a vehicle rendering it inoperable. It does not matter how advanced the technology is, asymmetric always looks to exploit the weakest points of the system. They are in effect military warfare specialists and use the enemy's strength against them. The bigger they are the harder they fall.

WTF, you think there's only one dude in the entire US Military that knows how to drive??

The vehicle isn't inoperable simply because the driver is dead. At least, not until someone else takes the wheel.

Most Americans have this mistaken believe the Iranian army will just give up once the firing starts. Well, thats not going to happen Iranians are highly patriotic and they'll stand and fight until the end, until they can't fight no more. Iran has well trained professional army, so its highly unlikely this would be easy war, if ground troops are needed to secure victory. I think American would have to control the airspace of Iran to be successful in the end, anything less than complete control America might regret they ever got involved in this.

I honestly, believe America and Israel are stuck in what to do with Iran. If Israel attacks first the Arab citizenry would go crazy if Israel began hitting nuclear sites (ie fallout here is possible) I think Israel and American would prefer to fight Iran because of the nuclear sites they have, without actually having to air strike them.

anyone here anything about Iran's swarm missile attack capability?

Originally posted by Wildbob77
They fought Iraq to a draw.

I don't think that they would last more than 60 days against the US.

Just my opinion.

Iraqi army was destroyed in 1990, if it could fight back, it was only then. When the invasion happened in 2003 what was left of the Iraq army deserted on mass and did not want to fight for Saddam anymore. Iran has never given up to a foreign power without a fight and never will, what happened to Iraq will not happen here.

reply to post by travis911
That is part of act 2 " US believes Iran stole WMD's from Iraq" and "US frigate hit by Iran mine" game set match the fire is lit, when the fuse will be next ??????

reply to post by jerico65
would you know how to drive a hummer? it is more than just get be hind the wheel, were is first gear, what is the TPSS? see it is not your moms or dads car unless your mom or dad have a hummer.

reply to post by travis911


Iran... Persia, has never been one to be pushed around. The nation has vast reserves of history that foundation loyalty and patriotism. Iran is also not exactly Arabic, not exactly Asian, not exactly European, not exactly African either. The culture is the result of thousands of years... not to even mention the effects of Alexander the Great and the wonder of Babylon in between Xerxes, Darius and others.

However, as history has repeatedly shown, history is not alone enough to save a doomed leadership. The people of modern Persia, or Iran, want to once again be a great people but they are under the shadow of a government that seeks to inflict its radical faith and ideology on those people. This was not the intended result of the Islamic Revolution.

So, yes. Iran has a very good military... properly trained and equipped mostly by Russia... though there are certain tactics and weaponry that trace back to nearly every one of NATO's original membership.

I find the current 'Arab (or Middle east) Spring to be a horribly misunderstood series of events that will not lead to more freedom... but more suffering for all.

Just an opinion.

Originally posted by Taupin Desciple
reply to post by travis911

 

Get ready to be bombed Travis. The mere mention that someone might be capable of putting up a legitimate fight against the U.S. military will bring all the chest thumpers out of the woodwork.

I for one think the U.S. military needs a major attitude adjustment. Sure, they may have the most sophisticated machinery and weaponry in the world, but they also seem to think that because they do they have an obligation to police the world. As if everything will go down the crapper if they don't. Everything is going down the crapper because they DO. They seem to have a problem with it.

Well I guess it's a good thing that your not in charge. As for all those fast attack boats, that's what special forces are for, to soften up the targets...along with some massive aerial bombardment....didn't you learn anything from the last two gulf wars? remember the "Mother of all battles" statement.

Originally posted by bekod
reply to post by jerico65

 

would you know how to drive a hummer? it is more than just get be hind the wheel, were is first gear, what is the TPSS? see it is not your moms or dads car unless your mom or dad have a hummer.

1. Yes, as a matter of fact, I do know how to drive one.

2. It's not like a civilian Hummer.

3. Think that maybe, just maybe, the US military has more than one guy that's trained on these vehicles?

Originally posted by TheGreatest
Iran struggled with Iraq.

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Saddam invaded Iran

History guy

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and in the meantime russia just lets this happen?

I wish Iran and the US would just get to a negotiating table and work something out.