Free engery/Perpetual motion - an idea and a drawing, page 1
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Topic started on 24-1-2012 @ 06:12 AM by Mads1987
According to Wiki -

The second law of thermodynamics distinguishes between reversible and irreversible physical processes. It tells how this shows the existence of a mathematical quantity called the entropy of a system, and thus it expresses the irreversibility of actual physical processes by the statement that the entropy of an isolated macroscopic system never decreases. Equivalently, perpetual motion machines of the second kind are impossible.


So - I came up with this idea the other morning, and have not done any calculations (cause I am not very good with math), not done any testing (cause I am not very handy) nor have I spoken to anyone with extensive knowledge of physics (cause I do not know any such people).
But I have an idea – which according to the laws of physics shouldn’t work. But so far I have not been able to see why it shouldn’t. Maybe you can help me?

To see my concept
click here - I am sorry I could not figure out how to upload it directly - and forgive me the crude illustration, I hope you will be able to figure out what i meant with it.

It’s a wheel (ferris wheel if you will), and because of the design there should always be more weight on the right side of the wheel than on the left – I think – and this should make it run.
I am not sure if it should run constantly. I imagine it might reach a maximum speed and at that point the weights will spin out and stabilize the contraption. So I think it would have a repeating fluctuation in speed.
I have not given much thought to the number of arms.
And I am well aware of the fact that entropy will eventually wear the machine down, at which point it will break and stop, so it isn’t a perpetual motion machine in the sense that it will run for ever, but it should produce more energy that it consumes.

Please, any thoughts? I am hoping that some of you might be able to debunk it, or add knowledge in some way or another. Feel free to ask me about it – but do not expect me to be able to answer in detail. English is not my first language and I do not know the first thing about this subject.


reply posted on 24-1-2012 @ 06:16 AM by mr-lizard
reply to post by Mads1987



I had a similar idea based on a wheel and magnets. The attraction/repulsion of the magnets would spin it..


Great idea btw.


reply posted on 24-1-2012 @ 06:21 AM by Hawking
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There couldn't actually be more "weight" on the right side than the left, but there would be some added momentum when each weight swings down on its hinge.

When I picture it, however, I see one weight swinging down and then the machine coming to a resting stop. Guess you'd either have to run some equations or actually build it to find out though



reply posted on 24-1-2012 @ 06:48 AM by Mads1987
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Hah, that look a lot like what I had imagined. Funny... Thanks.


reply posted on 24-1-2012 @ 06:53 AM by Mads1987
reply to post by Hawking



Well, the thing about the weight is. That even though there is not any moe weight on one side than the other, it is of balance, constantly. Even if it were to stop the weight on the right side will always be further from the middle than on the left side, which should create more weight. I think... hah.. My head hurts.


Anyway - I am getting the overall feeling that it is an interesting, but already explored approach, with no real practical application.

Thanks for sharing guys.
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