How do we fix the economy? ATS: Your thoughts

Get rid of Barry Soetoro... and charge everyone involved with treason.

Hang them in the streets.

To start:
1. Vote Ron Paul
2. Get rid (as much possible) monetary influences set upon congress. The economy is not broke for the lobbyist clients (its working rather perfectly actually), its broke for the US tax payers. Until you fix that , don't even attempt to fix healthcare,economy,taxes,social security,foreign affairs,etc.
3. Get rid of corporate taxes,fees,etc for any company,business or corporation that has 95% of their workforce in the USA.
4. Get rid of the FED
5. Get rid of income tax.

There is no quick fix for the economy. But here are a few suggestions. I'm sure that some of them will get flamed.

#1 Put an end to lobbying in Washington so that corporations do not control the politicians. If you do not bring down the corporations running this country then you cannot fix the economy.
#2 Round up all illegal immigrants and their prodigy and send them back to their own country. Hundreds of thousands of jobs would become available to legal citizens. The point is not whether an average citizen would take the job, the point is it will be available. This would also ease the strain on our medical institutions.
#3 Pass a realistic minimum wage. The current wage is completely inadaquate.
#4 Outlaw outsourcing. A telemarketing job is a job and quite frankly I am sick and tired of talking to foreigners who cannot speak English.
#5 Reasses EVERYONE who receives SSI. If they are not disabled then make them go back to work.
#6 Round up all the Bankers and Wallstreet execs who received bailouts and make examples of them.
#7 End all wars and close all foreign bases.
#8 Cap all Social Security checks. If you haven't paid it in then you shouldn't draw it out. Grandpa worked 50 years and paid in a total of $35,000 in to SS, but yet he gets $3500/month until he dies? In one years time he collects $42000. $7000 more than he ever paid in.
#9 Cap and reduce the fees that doctors and hospitals charge for services. After all they are just "practicing medicine".
#10 Last but not least. Take the government completely out of the economic loop and leave it to the people.

To think that we can fix the economy is just an illusion ... when you change it the maney changers shift tactics in their efforts to maintain their economic dominance ....

1. go back to the founding fathers ides that corporation can only exist for the "public good" and are limited in life
2. end the FED
3. import taxes to stop the profiteering of moving jobs overseas


to start fixing the eluding problem........

!#. Arrest all the members of the federal reserve and their offshore affiliates.
#2. seize all their assets
#3. close the doors on all corporate lobbying
#4. dissolve all corporations where no one can hide
#5. do full audits of the wealthiest 5% and make them pay 50%
#6.arrest all the generals at the pentagon from every branch and all the upper management from the military contractors and run an audit on both sides as you seize all their assets.
#7.Execute the last 4 presidents and their immediate chain of command and seize all their assets
#8.round up and remove all Illegal aliens and their children from the US and ship them???? doesn't matter not our problem as long as they are off US soil.
#9. repeal every law that is unconstitutional and put a lock on the constitution and the bill of rights, so no one can alter it ever again to fit their agenda.
#10. use all seized assets to recover and restore gold and silver bullion to the US reserves.
#11.pull all military bases from around the world and permanently close them, then selling them to the highest bidder.
#12.release all non violent drug users from prison and arrest all prison wardens and share holders and anyone connected to the unconstitutional creation of the gulags.
#13.set up retractable trust funds for every qualifying US citizen over the age of 18 in the form of a stimulus for the amount of $1,000,000, payed out in quarterly percent dividends, with job development incentive for 5 years, this would restore confidence and take all the pressure off the people to help let them grow.

After the 5 years their trust funds revert back to the government and only the revenues from the taxes collected will have been required as payment for the use of the fund.

make illegal all closed door sessions of government with complete disclosure of all laws and install safeguards to stop tyranny from happening ever again in every state

1. Eliminate fraud and waste from welfare programs. Set limits for people without disabilities and have a mandatory job training program. Stricter penalties for people who abuse the system.

2. Eliminate corruption from government. Stop the mega wealthy from using lobbyists to tilt the balance in their favor.

3. Fix the immigration problem. Deport all illegals and punish businesses and people who benefit from using them as cheap labor.

4. Cut military spending. Close all foreign bases and bring all the troops home. Station some on our borders to stop illegals from entering. Basically use our military for actually defending our country, not for enforcing the will of a corrupt government throughout the world.

5. Abolish the Federal Reserve, arrest everyone involved with that abomination, and seize its assets. Stop using worthless paper, and back our currency with gold, silver, or any other important commodity.

6. Tax imports heavily. Provide incentives for companies who hire American workers. Our economy should be based on producing, not just consuming. To hell with NAFTA and all that garbage.

7. Invest in forms of energy that are not fossil fuels. Hydrogen, solar, wind, whatever. Its going to take many different things to gain energy independence.

reply to post by saltdog


Are There No Prisons? Are There No Workhouses? lol ok. In some aspects, I believe you are confusing "hand outs" with "opportuninties" that your own country has founded it's own existance on( land of opportunity, melting pot and so on......).

You cannot support an industrialized nation with no middle-class( period). Your middle class has been gutted because the corporations that helped to build the country have been able to manipulate your government into gutting that middle-class( outsourcing jobs and factories overseas so you no longer produce anything domestically). LOL and "that's capitalism baby" lol. I love that line.

You are stuck relying on the missguided notion that the rich will create jobs( tax breaks for the top 1% and said "corporations") while they are only interested in protecting what they have, ( they are not stupid, they are not gonna invest in a country that no longer produces anything,("Hello- Supply and Demand") The US has turned solely into a consumer based society that produces nothing tangible( for themselves or any other country) anymore. IE: you have no longer have any combination of home based industries that can sustain your population or way of life indipendantly now.

The last 5 years have shown that reliance on the banking industry and stock markets( as an economy) is a no win situation because they gamble with pretend money and pay themselves with the taxpayers earnings( take your actual money out of your pocket and put it in their own lol).

So what's your real fix?

a reply to: mossme89

First off look at this data:

U.S. Census Bureau U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis NEWS U.S. Department of Commerce * Washington, DC 20230 U.S. INTERNATIONAL TRADE IN GOODS AND SERVICES March 2016 The U.S. Census Bureau and the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis, through the Department of Commerce, announced today that the goods and services deficit was $40.4 billion in March, down $6.5 billion from $47.0 billion in February, revised. March exports were $176.6 billion, $1.5 billion less than February exports. March imports were $217.1 billion, $8.1 billion less than February imports

www.bea.gov...

Then these graphs:



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Now how we handle imports:

Import Tariffs
An import tariff is a tax collected on imported goods. Generally speaking, a tariff is any tax or fee collected by a government. Sometimes tariff is used in a non-trade context, as in railroad tariffs. However, the term is much more commonly applied to a tax on imported goods.
There are two basic ways in which tariffs may be levied: specific tariffs and ad valorem tariffs.
A specific tariff is levied as a fixed charge per unit of imports. For example, the US government levies a 51 cent specific tariff on every wristwatch imported into the US. Thus, if 1000 watches are imported, the US government collects $510 in tariff revenue. In this case, $510 is collected whether the watch is a $40 Swatch or a $5000 Rolex.
An ad valorem tariff is levied as a fixed percentage of the value of the commodity imported. "Ad valorem" is Latin for "on value" or "in proportion to the value." The US currently levies a 2.5% ad valorem tariff on imported automobiles. Thus if $100,000 worth of autos are imported, the US government collects $2,500 in tariff revenue. In this case, $2500 is collected whether two $50,000 BMWs are imported or ten $10,000 Hyundais.
Occasionally both a specific and an ad valorem tariff are levied on the same product simultaneously. This is known as a two-part tariff. For example, wristwatches imported into the US face the 51 cent specific tariff as well as a 6.25% ad valorem tariff on the case and the strap and a 5.3% ad valorem tariff on the battery. Perhaps this should be called a three-part tariff!
As the above examples suggest, different tariffs are generally applied to different commodities. Governments rarely apply the same tariff to all goods and services imported into the country. One exception to this occurred in 1971 when President Nixon, in a last-ditch effort to save the Bretton Woods, system of fixed exchange rates, imposed a 10% ad valorem tariff on all imported goods from IMF member countries. But incidents such as this are uncommon.
Thus, instead of one tariff rate, countries have a tariff schedule which specifies the tariff collected on every particular good and service. The schedule of tariffs charged in all import commodity categories is called the Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States (HTS). The commodity classifications are based on the international Harmonized Commodity Coding and Classification System (or the Harmonized System) established by the World Customs Organization.
Lists of selected US tariff rates for 1996 and 2004 are provided below

internationalecon.com...

The coming storm if we don't act:

In early 1922 10,000 Mark would buy over 250 Pounds of Meat. By the end of the year it would buy only 5 pounds of Meat. In June bread is 3.50 Mark a loaf.”

www.joelscoins.com...

My proposal:

Dear Secretary of State Hilary Clinton,

First off, if I could vote for you as President, I would. You are a strong woman who will be President in 2017; it is written in the stars. Donald Trump is not eloquent and I find him to be quite rude to the ordinary citizens of the Great United States under God! The whole Benghazi and email malarkey is just sheer madness by New World Order Republicans. As a matter of fact I believe that President Obama made you a patsy, too take the fall for his ignorance.

Why, I’m writing you is a matter of economic equality and generally for a greater manufacturing base for America. Also small business is really the driving force of any Country if it has the capability to maintain a profit against the behemoth Corporations.

Now we all know that Corporate America via lobbyists have put many degreed and middle class Americans’ out of work; through the use of slave labor in 3rd World Countries. I believe that your winning ticket to help the middle class and bring superior quality back in this Great Nation is to issue a 16% tariff on all imported goods per item not lot instead of 3.8% from these 3rd World Slave nations. This will level the playing and save us from stagflation and help the average person get great paying jobs again in the good old U.S. of A. Furthermore, I think that the California wage should not go up to $15/hour. This will only hurt the middle class further towards the demise of small business.

You shall witness WWIII as President because; China pushes North Korea to move against South Korea. China is angry, because they are not innovators, but copy cats and hackers of our fine technology. They are poor developers too with many ghost town cities of major economic loss, not to mention some of their Gold contains Zinc. China is found wanting; the South China Sea Oil and Taiwan. They are also going for the rich oil fields in Africa. However, large their Navy is, it’s no match for ours and quite simply trying cross the Pacific by inexperienced Admirals such as theirs is suicide, but if they try; their entire Navy will be sunk. No doubt in my mind!

Russia is also another problem in the Balkans! You may have one of the toughest Presidential appointments of likes of George Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, Truman, Jackson, Nixon, Reagan, Roosevelt and Ford!

Watch out for Israel blaming Pakistan for hitting India with a possible highly dangerous weapon over Kashmir or Israel blowing up the Dome of the Rock and blaming it on a Rogue Islamic Jihadist. The reason why Israel would do this is because; they wish to build a 2rd Orthodox Sanhedrin Temple! King David did have a proper Temple dedicated to God. My point being, when your President keep Defcon status at 4 until it hits the fan then let it climb.

As I know, you shall be President please propose the tariff bill to Congress in your articulate and fashionable manner. Good luck and you shall be in my prayers Secretary of State Clinton.