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Topic started on 23-1-2012 @ 04:07 PM by saltdog
www.illegalimmigrationstatistics.org...

I cannot believe that the government allows illegals to stay in America.
If they know how many there are here, then they know where they are...so why aren't they arresting them?
Why do they get a free ride? We all know that if we did that in mexico...we would be in a Mexican jail.
They do it here and pop out a kid...then they can stay? How long are they here before they start opping out kids?
How many benifits do they get, that they have never paid into?

I am not against people coming here for a better life, its great that they want to do that, but do it legally...
By the way, breaking the law is breaking the law, it doesn't matter if its a law you think is BS..its still the law, you cannot pick and choose the ones you do or don't enforce.


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 04:11 PM by Tw0Sides
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They , Gov, should call them terrorist, then all the Warmongers could hunt them down.

Warmongers don't care who they kill, and with the Terrorist label, they can feel good about it.

Probably just a matter of time before it happens anyway.


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 04:11 PM by AaronWilson
reply to post by saltdog


They do the slave labor jobs Americans don't want to do. Kick em out and watch your infrastructure crumble.

If you try and refute this point here is a simple way to see the light; would you work picking vegetables for $2/hr? No, no you wouldn't.



reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 04:16 PM by AzureSky
Originally posted by AaronWilson
reply to post by saltdog


They do the slave labor jobs Americans don't want to do. Kick em out and watch your infrastructure crumble.

If you try and refute this point here is a simple way to see the light; would you work picking vegetables for $2/hr? No, no you wouldn't.


Capitalism at work.


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 04:17 PM by Quauhtli
reply to post by Tw0Sides


Walls are meant to be knocked down buddy. Who are you to say that someone is not meant to be on one place in the earth vs another place. The universe is here for our discovery. How would you like it if right at the last moment before we destroyed the earth we figured out space travel, but NOPE! You are supposed to stay on your own planet.

Thats like saying if God wanted dogs to be inside he would have made them in the house.

If you kicked out all of the illegals the U.S. would collapse within a week.


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 04:17 PM by TheLieWeLive
reply to post by saltdog




By the way, breaking the law is breaking the law, it doesn't matter if its a law you think is BS..its still the law, you cannot pick and choose the ones you do or don't enforce.


The government can choose and pick the laws it want's to enforce and break. Illegals are an example of that. If they really wanted to stop illegals they, like Ron Paul suggests, would bring our troops home and let them guard the border. No more illegals and no more drug smuggling...problem solved. Oh but wait, you can't stop drug smuggling, the Gov. profits on that. Oh and possibly through illegals too.
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reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 04:18 PM by saltdog
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That might be true about cheap labor, but then the companies that hire then need to go bankrupt and others that are not doing that would be able to grow in size...capitalism at its best. The fields will be picked because there would be a huge amount of unemployeed that would be qualified for the job...if the unemployed refuse to get a job...with all the jobs available...well they get to work and earn a check or they just don't get anything...2 birds with 1 stone so to speak.


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 04:22 PM by saltdog
Originally posted by Quauhtli
reply to post by Tw0Sides


Walls are meant to be knocked down buddy. Who are you to say that someone is not meant to be on one place in the earth vs another place. The universe is here for our discovery. How would you like it if right at the last moment before we destroyed the earth we figured out space travel, but NOPE! You are supposed to stay on your own planet.

Thats like saying if God wanted dogs to be inside he would have made them in the house.

If you kicked out all of the illegals the U.S. would collapse within a week.


If I own the land your going to occupy...thats tresspassing...But your way....... if you own,( but you don't) a house and land I can just go stay in it whenever I want? Eat your food, drive your car? thats what yout saying...


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 04:22 PM by AaronWilson
reply to post by saltdog


You can say this and that for and against capitalism, but its not gonna change anytime soon. It would be great to have $10/hr jobs for everyone. Even the illegals, but they don't HAVE too so they don't. When you can save money by hiring 4 cheap laborers instead of hiring a single American citizen, they go with that route. Its just the most fiscally sound option.



reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 04:57 PM by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by saltdog


LL
Strawman
"illegals" aren't doing any of that

except in somebody's paranoid fantasies



Easy..don't buy from the companies that do that.

good idea
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reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 05:26 PM by Rockpuck
reply to post by saltdog


Progressive Liberals and Neoconservatives both love slave labor and cheap votes.

That's the only reason for letting the criminals stay here.


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 07:34 PM by CaptChaos
Originally posted by AaronWilson
reply to post by saltdog


They do the slave labor jobs Americans don't want to do. Kick em out and watch your infrastructure crumble.

If you try and refute this point here is a simple way to see the light; would you work picking vegetables for $2/hr? No, no you wouldn't.


You're dreaming if you think any infrastructure would crumble. At least, any more than it already is. But that's another thread.

You can't see what is happening right in front of your eyes. What would happen is big business would have to pay more wages. They would make less profit. THey would still make hundreds of millions. They just want MORE. And they have fooled you all into thinking mass invasion of people who will work cheaper is somehow GOOD. Yeah, multiculturalism. Try Mexican invasion.
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