AREA 51 - Activity CAUGHT on (Fact or Faked Paranormal Files Show), page 1


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Topic started on 23-1-2012 @ 03:46 PM by LOK31
Fact or Faked: Paranormal Files is a paranormal investigation television series produced by Base Productions that began airing July 15, 2010, on SyFy. The show follows a team of investigators, led by former FBI agent Ben Hansen, who review various photographs and viral videos (mainly from the internet) of alleged paranormal activity. If a particular piece of evidence is deemed intriguing enough to warrant further investigation, they set out to recreate and explain the sighting.

en.wikipedia.org...:_Paranormal_Files

The FoF paranormal show during an investigation they conducted at area 51, they managed to capture an unknown object apparition from the sky, having the direction towards the Area 51 base. Right after the apparition dissapeared, The lights of the base were turn off directly, which raises many questions... here's the link and tell me your opinions.


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reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 08:57 PM by gariac
I'm sure both videos have threads on ATS. In any event, the first video did capture a test. Once an aircraft takes off, they kill the lights on the base, probably so that the aircraft can't be seen by the glow of the base lights. The runway lights at the south end flash just like captured in the video. I won't go as far as to say what looked like a meteor was a test vehicle. Given the video was edited, we don't even know how the flash and the base light relate on a time line.

In the first video, the guy on Tikaboo is watching a vehicle drive on Groom Lake Road and says the vehicle turns off the lights. In reality, the vehicle is being hidden by a hill. I've watched this many times from Tikaboo. I've yet to see the dudes drive blacked out.

The second video stinks of Bob Lazar unfortunately. Peter needs to write into his contract that he won't be in the same video as Bob Lazar.

I never really could tell where Mark Farmer was located, other than it looks like the land under the Coyote Delta airspace, points east and west of Queen City Summit. You can park by a dirt patch on the side of the ET Highway and scan the base from there. I have received correspondence from people who claim they have seen Groom flights from that spot by the highway. In any event, weapons school flies that area all the time. I doubt their presence had anything to do with the overhead aircraft. Weapons school starts up around 10AM and can run as last as midnight.

I don't believe there is any place around the range where you can stand in dispersed plutonium. There are contaminated areas, but not exactly open to the public. What I suspect Mark Farmer was referred to is the nuclear cloud that hit Queen City Summit.
www.lazygranch.com...
Queen City Summit received a strong dose when they made the Sedan crater. However, the rock in the area is naturally radioactive too. While the area around the range runs around 15uR/hr, parts of Queen City Summit will reach 40uR/hr. That is not very radioactive. You can drive around Kelbaker in California near the uranium mines and easily get 100uR/hr.

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reply posted on 24-1-2012 @ 10:24 AM by aboutface
reply to post by FosterVS



It reminds me of a juvenile "spying on the people next door." It would help if the people next door held an open house on occasion, but why would they, if the only purpose is to satisfy the curiosity of others and vital secrets be given to the wrong people?

The only observation I can make therefore on this whole thing is this: We all are familiar that area 51 exists and holds many intribuing secrets of advanced flight and possibly much more. However, where are other equivalent area 51s existing in the world? Where is England's, France's, Israel's, India's Pakistan's, N.Korea and China'a area? Why do we not hear anything about them?

In light of all this, it makes me wonder then, if we are headed for a one world government, how all these secretive areas will be handled. Will they be merged at some point, or will we still be in a world conquest mentality despite having the same government worldwide?


reply posted on 24-1-2012 @ 06:51 PM by LOK31
Originally posted by aboutface
reply to
post by FosterVS


where are other equivalent area 51s existing in the world? Where is England's, France's, Israel's, India's Pakistan's, N.Korea and China'a area? Why do we not hear anything about them?


We always talk about area 51 and etc... but if it was so top secret as its supposed to be... we wouldn;t even know about it as we dont know about Uks'. France's,and so on as you said. Most probably, personal opinion, that area 51 exists just to mislead people who are investigating such stories (ufo, aliens, etc). I think this is just a big game for them to make us concentrate on one think...and not on all the rest which are the real ones!

There are so many things that we dont know about, and we think that we DO know...while everything its just a big joke! Even us here discussing about these things we might think we know some staff, but actually we might not even be close to knowing the truth...


reply posted on 24-1-2012 @ 07:06 PM by gariac
reply to post by aboutface



The UKs "area 51" is Boscombe Down." However, the UK tests aircraft at Groom Lake, though never a secret aircraft as far as I know. They had the Typhon at Groom Lake a few years ago (rumored of course.)

I was with an UK expat and ran into some UK airmen at the Little Aleinn parking lot. In the middle of the chit chat, I said "So is the Typhoon still at Groom?" The reply from one person was "No, it is home now." The guy in charge, sounding just like a Monty Python skit, said "Right...we'll be going now." One assumes the guy who confirmed the Typhoon got a dressing down. Trouble is British accents were caught on the scanner traffic, so it was clear something was up. (Accents over radio traffic is THE classic SIGINT.)

Note there are all sorts of ways to test aircraft in the clear. For instance, if it is a matter of secret avionics, who would be the wiser if the plane was flown around any military base. A pod here or there. Planes have all sorts of pods. A new or more likely modified engine could be tested in the open. (A bit trickier if it effects balance too much.) You need an area like Groom Lake to test new airframes. But I suspect much new gear is tested at Edwards and nobody on the outside is the wiser.


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 11:12 AM by Pimander
reply to post by EngineerGuY


Don't say that, you'll upset someone who knows nothing. Repeat after me: "There are no non-conventional craft tested anywhere!"


Boscombe isn't the UKs A51 by the way. We didn't have the biggest empire in recorded history by sharing secrets like that. If I told you how I know I'd have to kill you so I'll stop there.


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 05:20 PM by gariac
reply to post by Pimander



Clearly you know zero about classified information. The line "If I told you I would have to kill you" is a joke. The person tasked with the classified information is the person responsible to keep it secure. The line should go "If I told you, I would be tossed in jail" is the accurate phrase.

Sorry to pierce through your "insider" facade, but I am freaking brilliant in that way.


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 05:48 PM by Pimander
reply to post by gariac


Yes, it was a joke. I'm not a military type I just have some contacts. OMG.

Boscombe Down isn't the UKs Area 51 though. That was the serious bit. The last bit was the joke. You know, humour. Ok, it might be an old joke and not that funny but....



P.S. I'd think you were joking with that response but you weren't were you.


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 07:25 PM by gariac
reply to post by Pimander



I'm simply explaining how classified information works. The fact I exposed you as some wannabe insider with supposed secret information was just a bonus.

Case in point here. Valerie Plame gets exposed. Immediately I check the databases, find where she claimed to work via FEC documents, then get the name of another covert agent. I am perfectly free to expose the guy's name since I haven't taken an oath to defend that information. Now I made it a point not to expose insiders, so I didn't do it.
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